Oakland Police Shoot Iraq War Veteran in Face

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  1. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    There were other police agencies involved besides the Oakland PD.

    "As The Bay Citizen explained, while Mr. Jordan has stuck by his initial statement that his officers did not fire rubber bullets at protesters, he said that the department “was investigating what munitions were used by the other law enforcement agencies that assisted O.P.D. in its dispersal of Occupy Oakland protesters.” Oakland asked more than a dozen other local police forces to send officers to aid in their attempt to clear protesters from the city’s downtown on Tuesday. More than 500 officers from other jurisdictions were deployed in response to what is known in law enforcement circles as a “mutual aid request.”

    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/police-tactics-questioned-in-oakland-protest/
     
  2. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I saw lots of people throwing stuff in that video, and what the narrator was saying about watching the officer, he was carrying a rifle, not a grenade launcher. Those were canisters of CS, they are not shot from a launcher, they require pulling a pin and throwing them.

    So no, the video shows the taunting from protesters towards the police, and if you think for one second the police should put up with their violence, you are definitely choosing what side you are on.
     
  3. hopeless_in_2012

    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    So after watching that video you do not see the officer back up a few steps and then lob the canister at the protesters? Are you kidding me?
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I am not kidding you. After the narrator said watch the second time, I saw the officer step back, but I saw nothing lobbed. I did see plenty being lobbed at the protesters. I saw a canister go off on the ground in the mix of the chaos, but there was no deliberate attempt at shooting anyone as indicated by the OP of this thread.

    Watch the video again, and if you can spot the time let me know, I watched and rewound it several times.
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    OK not that I actually expect you to acknowledge it but at 0:52 you can see the canister being lobbed from the officers directly into the crowd helping the injured man.
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All the bashers? You clearly on the on the side of the left wing violent loons, so stop your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) of them being innocent bystanders. This video was put together by libturds in hopes to spark outrage, and the narrator even said it is very hard to see what was going on, except for you that is.
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    By bashers I was refering to the people using slurs like left wing violent loons & libturds, and saying these people got what they deserved. I am on the side of not wanting our police force to assault us whether that "us" is "libturds" or "tea bagging fools".
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you and the narrator said, that officer, and all I saw was a concussion or flash grenade thrown, and everyone scattered, but no one was injured. Bottom line hopeless, you are aligned with people that promote violence, and your phony, "I am on the side of right", is bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Oakland Ca. is a bad ass place, and their police don't (*)(*)(*)(*) around, as you can clearly see. So break the law, and your head will be busted.
     
  9. MisLed

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    your links aren't working.
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tea bagging fools? Really hopeless? Name one arrest of any of the TP protests or assemblies, please, just list one.

    These POS protesters are libturd socialist punk pukes that have no (*)(*)(*)(*)ing clue what work or achievement is about. They progressed into nothing but American bashing, and that kind of bashing you approve of.

    Our police are there to protect it's citizens, and when large uncontrollable groups of protesters break the law and threaten violence, well the rest of us Americans have a big (*)(*)(*)(*) you for all those that want our nation to fail.
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    thankfully no one was injured but the flash grenade was thrown and it was thrown directly into a group of American citizens trying to assist an injured man. This was not necessary and was totally uncalled for.

    I am not aligned with them in any way I am on the side that everyone should be, the side that is outraged when police use excessive force or assault. I think the OWS people are lunatics and think that using flash grenades and tear gas are completely acceptable as long as they are not used in a manner like this. The officer may be one bad apple out of all of them standing there and should be removed from the force permanently.

    I can see they are bad ass. Again nothing wrong with being bad ass unless you are throwing a canister like that directly at people posing no threat. It was an obvious case of intent to harm
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since when did you become an expert on riot control? What credentials do you hold? Those canisters are nothing more than loud firecrackers, and the police knew it.

    So the truth is, you continue to say it is the officer, and yet, the officer in the video was holding his rifle with both hands, so how did he toss a flash? Did you notice all the (*)(*)(*)(*) being thrown at the officers? Do you expect them to not respond?
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    I just thought I would use some stupid name calling like you and others to see what it was like. Doesnt matter if it was a TP or OWS protester, I would be just as pissed about the behavior of the officer that threw it.

    These POS protesters are American citizens protesting something that they feel strong about. Once again for the hard of reading and non comprehending fools...I do not approve of what they are doing!!!

    And throwing that flash grenade was protecting our citizens? You sir are a complete ******* *****
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for exposing your non-credentials, and your personal attack is duly noted.

    Psst.... for your information, the only police presence at a Tea Party rally was to protect them from the hateful lunatic left. So yes, it most certainly does matter since the TP knows how to obey the law and clean up after themselves. Unlike the vermin POS we have seen daily on the news.
     
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    Thank you. We need more people like you.
     
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    The Occupied group should hire their own police to protect them.

    Police protect the organization that pays them. Government and Banks. They don't care about rights or the constitution.

    So someone should hire police to defend Occupied. And then if needed, start recruiting their own Army.
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ya see folks, this is what happens when loser DNA spawns
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    My non credentials as a riot officer? Never claimed to be one. Thanks for exposing your credentials for being so one sided that you would argue that it is ok for our police to do something like this. Believe me, the personal attack was a lot tamer than I would have liked it to be.
    PSST...for your information I think the lunatic right TP deserves the same fair treatment from police as the lunatic left OWS does. Vermin or not, they are american citizens and should not be treated like that.
     
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    Police broke the law and will be brought to justice. Libturds can arm, shoot, defend and hire police too.
     
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    This is where we seriously diverge.

    The Tea Party does not engage in illegal behavior. To my knowledge there has never been a single arrest at a Tea Party event.

    I am not a Tea Party guy... but equating these two groups is like equating kids in school detention to kids in maximum security facilities. TP does not rise to the level of requiring lawful police resistance.
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    DID I EVER say that he tea party was violent. All I said was that it didnt matter if it was TP or OWS it would be wrong for the police to do this. I was trying to say that who the person is doesnt matter. I was in no way trying to compare the two. I think they are both equally radical and crazy but that is just my opinion
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLyUK0t0vQ&feature=player_embedded"]Oakland Policeman Throws Flash Grenade Into Crowd Trying To Help Injured Protester - YouTube[/ame]

    no excuse for what that cop did.
     
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    I'll say it. Those were far left liberal nutball loons and if you defy the order of the police and disobey the law you accept the consequences.

    Hows that?
     
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    Whatever it was that hit this guy in the face, Iraq war veteran or not, if he wasn't with a bunch of rowdy anarchists who are ignoring police instructions to dispurse, and assaulting the police with bottles and rocks, the guy wouldn't have gotten hurt. It is his own fault and the fault of his fellow hooligans that he is injured. But of course, this is what I have been warning would happen, because this is what the demonstrators want, a martyr:

    This is what the liberals have been hoping for...a Kent State moment:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_36PZ_qFkg"]MSNBC Analyst Says Donny Deutsch Occupy Wall Street Needs A 'Kent State' Moment - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I will agree with you to a point. I dont agree that the consequences should include an officer throwing a concussion grenade at the people trying to help the injured man. Hows that?
     

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