Thank God for Fox News.

Ok now this is the THIRD time I have asked you for this...

WHAT LIES ARE BEING TOLD BY FOX? PLEASE RESPOND THIS TIME....

 

We could devote an entire subforum to that topic.

 

There are no lies at FOX...nada.... zip...zero!

 

This thread will do...so, anytime you're ready

 

I don't watch fox news so I can't comment on whether they're biased from my own observation.

This study on media bias is from 2004 but I haven't heard anyone suggest that any news outlets have altered their points of view since that time so it may still be relevant.

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm

 

Fox News lies incessantly. Wake the eff up!!!!

And no, I do not support the Democrats nor do I support MSNBC, CNN, or any of the corporate main stream media, and neither should you.

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This is but a small amount of the overwhelming evidence that Fox is willfully dishonest towards it's viewers. Stop letting them lie to you.

 

This is about the best response you can give to a Fox News viewer. If you try to use facts with them, they just cry liberal media. It's pretty embarrassing actually.

 

I'm not sure what that clip has to do with Fox News, but I'd like to thank you, Marine1, for providing another clear example of how the conservative propaganda media distorts the truth for its political objective.

And this thread, yet again, demonstrates how our conservative friends just gullibly lap up this stuff without question or critical thought. To me it illustrates a fundamental problem with Americans in general, and particularly on the conservative side, that people so readily believe anything they see on the internet.

This clip is a perfect example. It's obviously been heavily edited. It's been produced by some guy that I'd bet not one person who has committed in this thread has any idea who he is or why we should think he is credited.

So, for those who are willing to read, and care about the truth, is the actual statement of Frank in 2005, from the pages of the Congressional record. I've included in there the portion of his statement that is the same as the video clip so you can see it is the same speech.


Frank on June 27, 2005:
So those of us on our committee in particular will continue to push for homeownership. And I very much agree with the gentleman from Ohio who has chaired the Subcommittee on Housing and Community Opportunity of the Committee on Financial Services about the importance of this and about the various ways in which we do that.

Obviously, the market will take care of a large number of people, but it will not take care of everybody. And if we are going to expand homeownership,
there will have to be a sensible set of public policies, such as reducing the downpayment in the FHA, such as protecting people from lending practices
that may at first seem to benefit them but then victimize them. And I hope our committee will pass legislation that will protect people against that.

I also want to express my appreciation to the gentleman from Ohio for having noted a very important point that sometimes gets overlooked.

Homeownership is an important part of our policy, but it is not the entire housing policy of the Federal Government; nor is it the entire housing need
of the Nation. Some people will never own. There will be people who choose not to own; there will be people who for their economic circumstances will not be able to own. And there is no conflict between promoting homeownership and recognizing that decent, affordable rental housing will also be very important indefinitely for tens and tens of millions of Americans.

I welcome the initiative that the gentleman from Ohio talked about with regard to improving our public policies so that we are able to expand the stock of affordable rental housing and do it in a way that protects both the renters themselves and the taxpayers.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2005_record&page=H5182&position=all

And here is the text from Franks talk in 2009 with Larry King:

FRANK: Ron, I think there's a difference there. What -- the mistake that was made by, frankly, the Bush administration more than anybody else -- but some others joined in -- which was to give everybody a house to own. I -- I continually argued that for some people in certain economic categories and in some social categories, rental housing is the appropriate form.

KING: But didn't you... FRANK: I have...

KING: Barney, didn't you support Fannie Mae and the like?

Didn't you (INAUDIBLE)?

FRANK: For rental housing, yes. I was very critical -- in 19 -- in 2004, George Bush ordered Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to start buying low income mortgages for low income people. I opposed it. I -- I made a big distinction. I think pushing people into owning houses when they couldn't afford it and weren't well organized enough to do it was a mistake. I was pushing them to do more rental housing and that's a big distinction.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0912/16/lkl.01.html

From a June 17, 2004 Bloomberg article:

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would suffer financially under a Bush administration requirement that they channel more mortgage financing to people with low incomes, said the senior Democrat on a congressional panel that sets regulations for the companies.

The new rule compels the companies to put 57 percent of their mortgage financing by 2008 toward homes for people with incomes no greater than area median income. Fannie Mae and Freddie, the two largest U.S. mortgage finance companies, must currently meet a 50 percent threshold.

The White House “could do some harm if you don't refine the goals,'' said Representative Barney Frank, a member from Massachusetts on the House Financial Services Committee. Frank's comments echo concerns of executives at the government-chartered companies that the new goals will undermine profits and put new homeowners into dwellings they can't afford.

http://democrats.financialservices....s/112/06-17-04-new-Fannie-goals-Bloomberg.pdf

So now, read in context, everyone can see that Frank was not lying but being truthful on Larry King when he said that he said that he thought rental housing was more appropriate for some and expressed concerns about the Bush administration pushing housing on people who couldn't' afford it.

Completely contrary from the edited video clip. It's amazing how you can cut and edit a video clip and make it sound like the person is saying something completely different, isn't it?

Even more amazing how so many will just gullibly believe it. And we see it time after time in threads like this one.

Thanks to Marine1 for the opportunity to demonstrate it yet again, and how the "truth" is sometimes more than what we see in a internet video clip.

 

It is pretty funny how some people live within their own reality distortion field around them and call Fox news a credible source for news.

Theres guy at youtube whos done sooo many videos that demonstrate why Fox News is really not about the news but more about conservative and corporatist propaganda to uninformed and when conservative values clash against corporatist agenda they always seem to go to backseat for these "news" pieces or they dont even touch these topics. You can check those videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberalViewer .

Fox News is so blatant about their slant that it is always amusing to see them trumpet their "fair and balanced" mantra.

 

You couldn't be more wrong.

You'll see on FOX NEWS liberals who actually have a job with the station by bringing the 'fair and balanced' theme of the network to light. There is Juan Williams, the former Alan Colmes, Bob Beckel, Geraldo Rivera and various prime slots of where FOX gives various liberal notables a voice to combat the Conservative views. Now, liberal MSNBC as being the FOX alternative has zero spots for having a Conservative anchor. And when they do bring in a guest Conservative, its always a RINO or a Republican that hasn't got the equipment needed in which to debate the lib extremists on the show. You would never see a true Conservative do combat on that lib station, like a Coulter, a Savage, a Limbaugh, a Levine etc for knowing they (libs) would get their arses handed to them, for Conservatives have the facts and the truth on their side in which to stymie any and all socialistic pap.

 

So you have no problem with Fox News lies because they have on supposed liberal representation ala Juan Williams, Alan Colmes, and Geraldo Rivera?

That's an interesting position to take.

 

What lies? Do tell!

And juan williams, alan colmes and rivera are liberals. Do you doubt that?

 

Feel free to see my video evidence on the previous page in this thread for proof that Fox not only willfully lies, but also legally argued their right to lie to their viewers...

Juan Williams, Alan Colmes, Geraldo Rivers, etc., are all just corporate shills like everyone else at Fox, MSNBC, CNN, and all the rest of the corporate media.

The liberal vs. conservative paradigm is just a shell game designed to get you to believe their lies...

 

So you have no problem with MSNBC lying either? See my video. And didn't NBC have their news anchor fired by lying about Bush? So lets just disregard everything all these news stations say because they are all liars. They will never tell you the truth about anything right? Or do we just disregard the Conservative one?

 

I am not championing MSNBC. I have said numerous times in this thread that I see no difference between Fox and MSNBC. They serve the same interests. They both lie.

You, however, are championing Fox News. You are supporting liars. I am not.

 

Dan Rather didn't lie about Bush. The papers were fake, but the facts were correct.

 

That may be true, but MSNBC does lie. Thwy perpwtuate the two party myth.

 

FAUX News sucks and we don't need them to tell us that Pelosi is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag.

Unfortunately, millions of people need this validation.

 

Less than 1% of our elected Federal representatives are independent...and he caucuses with the Democrats...we are subject to corporate oligarchy.

 

You are correct. Corporate media treats their viewers as consumers rather than citizens and this is a fundamental break down that people like yourself risk their lives for.

It is a disgrace and an insult to the average American.

 

http://foxnewslies.net/

Have fun.

 

Funny how you make out mistakes from people as lies. Palin and Paul Revere.

No attacks on American soil?

etc.

That's like me saying Obama lied in how many states there are or Biden lying when he said Roosevelt addressed the people on television in 1939.

Arizona is the gate way for drug trafficking into the US



Obama says the border fence is "now basically complete"



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Sections of the fence on the Mexico border, like this one near San Miguel, Ariz., are designed primarily to stop vehicles.


In his speech in El Paso on immigration reform on May 10, 2011, President Obama declared that the fence along the border with Mexico is "now basically complete."

Still, he predicted that many Republican opponents won't be satisfied.

"We have gone above and beyond what was requested by the very Republicans who said they supported broader reform as long as we got serious about enforcement," Obama said. "All the stuff they asked for, we’ve done. But even though we’ve answered these concerns, I’ve got to say I suspect there are still going to be some who are trying to move the goal posts on us one more time."

"They'll want want a higher fence," Obama said. "Maybe they’ll need a moat. Maybe they want alligators in the moat. They’ll never be satisfied. And I understand that. That’s politics."

Fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border has long been a thorny political issue, so with Obama declaring mission accomplished, we decided to check it out.

Department of Homeland Security officials told us they have finished 649 out of 652 miles of fencing (99.5 percent), which includes 299 miles of vehicle barriers and 350 miles of pedestrian fence.

But the same day as Obama's speech, Sen. Jim DeMint penned an op-ed for National Review in which he countered that the Obama administration has "not done its job to finish the border fence that is a critical part of keeping Americans safe and stopping illegal immigration."

"Five years ago, legislation was passed to build a 700-mile double-layer border fence along the southwest border," DeMint wrote. "This is a promise that has not been kept. Today, according to staff at the Department of Homeland Security, just 5 percent of the double-layer fencing is complete, only 36.3 miles."

So what gives? Is the border fence "now basically complete" or not?

Not to go all Clinton on you, but it largely depends on how you define "fence."

You need to go back to the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by President George W. Bush. It authorized the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along the border with Mexico. The act specified "at least two layers of reinforced fencing."


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ama-says-border-fence-now-basically-complete/

 

Here is a lie.

"Transparency and Open Government | The White House


www.whitehouse.gov/the_press.../TransparencyandOpenGovernment...

He held close door meeting on the health care bill, not even letting Republicans in.


Obama has kept all his personal papers from the public. Only coming out with his long form birth certificate just last year.After years of fighting it.

He failed to release his medical records, only showing a note from his doctor that he was fit to serve. Not allowing reporters to talk with his doctor.

He refuses to release his college records. Only one year of his tax records.

So where is this openness?



Obama lied about renegotiating NATA if elected.


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Oct 4, 2011 – In 2008, then Senator Obama said that he would renegotiate NAFTA if elected. He even released a mailer while opposing Hilary Clinton in the ...

 

That is a lie...but it doesn't magically erase the litany of lies Fox News feeds it's viewers.

 

They don't lie anymore than the others do. The fact is, Fox will bring out stuff the others stations won't. Like.

Barney Frank lieing through his teeth.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZ9l_AxKjA&feature=related"]Barney Frank Caught Lying About Fannie Mae - YouTube[/ame]

Nancy Pelosi lying through her teeth

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Democrats lying through their teeth.

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Most or none of the public saw these on the other's news station.