Oh Capitialism is Collapsing BTW!Greece ,Portugual,Spain,Italy mere trifle!

Yeah, and maybe we can figure out how states like Germany with higher taxes on the rich and a more robust social safety net are outperforming us.

Wait a minute . . . maybe the two are related!

 

Way to provide evidence in any fashion for your claim.

FAIL

 

As usual Landru's got nothing but empty beta male DailyKos rhetoric. Poland privatized their retirement and like Chile had a smashing success. Soooo.... is Landru advocating we privatize our retirement?

Germany has no where near the public employees as the failing Southern European nations.

 

Beta male. How quaint and telling?

Germany and Poland have higher taxes on the rich and a more robust social safety nets. And their economies are doing better.

I see a pattern.

FAIL

 

the reason Germany is doing well is because they export alot....same with japan and canada. Greece does not export much, niether does spain or portugal. The austerity has nothing to do with it, however, austerity can decrease a governments dependance on borrowed funds and can help balance a budget!

 

No where else on this planet fears Inflation more then in Germany!

Oh dear Money printing to bail out Italy by Germany=Hyper-Inflation in Germany?

Oh dear where to now 600 year old European Capitialism,oh thats right FASCISM AND WAR ,gee how far we haven't advanced since 1914 and AGAIN 1939!

And people say that Capitialism isn't holding Humanity and production on a Globall scale back????

No Capitialism is a lovely ,fair democratic systems that loves everyone and is the end of all human social Evolution!

For ever and ever everything else in the universe is born, lives and then dies ,even Stars ,but Capitialism is Eternal!

Sorry I was dreaming,No need to worry the German ,French and British Governments will work it all out for everyones benefit![yeah right,yes they think we the 99% are that stupid boy are they in for a shock]

Oh BTW ,the IMF is now the Government in Italy ,!

Very democratic that!

 

Greece's problem was SPENDING ON ENTITLEMENTS as is Italy's, Portugal's, and Spain's... nothing to do with capitalism or free markets. You are simply making crap up in your own mind that is divergent from reality.

 

Let you in on a little secrete in order to stop Socialist Revolution after the end of the Second European War to end all Wars,WW2,

National Governments particularly in Europe developed Social Reforms or Concessions to the Working Class!

Even in the US of Capitialism A,the reforms were based on the rebuilding and expanding Ecomomy of the 50sand 60's,remember the zenith of the Formerly United States of America.

Way back in the 20th Century when the USA was a Super power not a has been Economic power!

How greedy are the Americans they make the Greeks look tame ,now lets see which nation has the Biggest debt both Government and personel in the World HAVE A GUESS!

Here is a clue starts with U has a S and finishes with A!

That spells BANKRUPT!

Oh the entitlements like ,Hospitials and Schools gee I thought they were basic social rights!

 

lol... you are removed from reality.

The entitlements go far beyond hospitals and schools and everyone knows it. The short work week, the huge vacations times, the early retirement ages, and the amazing retirement packages.... the entitlements on top of those ridiculous government deals destroyed Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain.

 

Oh BTW ,Capitialism was born and developed as a economic and political system in Europe first ,just for your education,the CAPITALIST Nation states of Spain,Portugual .Italy and Greece have always been CAPITIALIST 100%

Social Reformism is a CAPITIALIST perspective based on Capitialist Ideology called NATIONALISM ,ie; defence of the Capitalist Nation State!

Capitalism =Nationalism!

Education by opening up books other then the Bible can help with ones knowledge BTW!

 

Born and developed in Europe? Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). They were serfdoms scions. Free trade was developed in Egypt. Way before you people were even out of the stone age.

 

I guess you've never read the Communist Manifesto eh? The central bank is one of the plancks of Communism. Central banking and fiat currency are tools of socialism...Marx and Engels described them as being the tools to engineer the death of capitalism and the rise of socialism.

 

Historical Materialism,that is the "SCIENCE OF HISTORY"as all Marxists describe it ,Marx; Engles' Lenin' Trotsky' and David North and me!

Is in the very statement you make so lets see ,HISTORICAL CONTEXT is just a Little bit relevant to the question of the Banking System in Marx's Day as distinct to the Globally Intergrated Computerised one that presently exists???

I can with all confidence tell you that in todays capitialism that instead of saying he was a Internationalist ,Marx would now call himself a Globalist!

The Proletariets challenge is the destruction of a National Banking System replaced by a REGULATED POLITICALLY GLOBAL BANKING SYSTEM!

WOW over the last 162years things have changed ,and still the MARXIST SCIENTIFIC METHOD OF THINKING reigns sopreme !

Dialectical and Historical materialism is still the highest form of human thinking!

So remember Think Globally and through technology Act Globally!"

 

The Egyptian economy was based on SLAVES or did I get that wrong?

Now the difference between the Wage slave " Capitialist form" is that in some respect the acient slave at least was feed and housed as property, whereas the Capitialist Overlords ruling Class ,Rupert Murdoch for instance"starve the Working Class and let them die lockedout of the factories that make EVERYTHING!

Sorry to inform you professor of nothing ,but No mass commodidty Production ,or world trade ,or Industrial revolution or Democracy or ect ect or FACTORIES even in ACIENT [that means not a Nation a empire of Egypt >>you ok or do you want to go on???

 

Yes capitalism will collapse worldwide. Marx predicted it, with his brilliant economic deductions...that the end result of capitalism is always wealth in the hands of the few based on coercion and ownership.

It is a nice dream to think that capitalism reflects the natural state of man, and that hitherto all states have hindered it, but in reality, it is just a concept and nothing more. It is an excuse for exploitation and hierarchy based on birth right -- parading as meritocracy!!

 

Yes, it will collapse, under the immense weight of socialism.

Brilliant economic deductions? Karl Marx?

This country really is losing its mind...

Of course it's a concept. So is socialism or any other economic framework you can think of. It just so happens that is a demonstrably superior concept to any other, which is why it has significantly outperformed any concurrent or past system in existence.

 

I wouldn't really classify any country within the EU to be a capitalist country and really Greece was a failure experiment of the socialists.

 

Capitialism is lets say a little on the nose don't you think particularly the Governments that represent it! that would be governments for the "National intrest"should read for the "National Capitialist Class intrest"not the People's!

 

Oh careful the capitialist Nations and the Stinking Pedophile Pope ,decleared Marxism dead and finished when the USSR Colapsed don't you remember?

Where you but babes at your mothers tit or something?

 

You are correct in my opinion. Its said (there is a quote that relates to this) that one of the downfalls of a democratic system is that when the constituency finds they can vote themselves entitlements that the downfall of that system is eminent. Here is the quote;

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. “

If we can learn from history perhaps the above disaster can be made false. I pray that we can falsify it, if not we should prepare for the worst. I would advise a years supply of food water and a self defense kit and plan. Think of it as being entirely on your own with no assistance from police etc. Here in the states we call it prepping. I strongly advise it while we work to falsify that message! If a years supplies is impossible at least put up a month of perishables and some silver coins for trade and some kind of self defense plan. My self defense plan consists of weapons and other sensible priorities. Hey when National Geographic television begins to cover preppers and give advice for weapons and self defense plans on national television survivalist (the old name for prepping) is no longer in the realm of nuttiness.

Rev A

 

I only remember the free nations declaring the USSR is dead, it is and was. Of course anyone that loves communism still has a few countries to move to, such as North Korea* (compare that with CAPITALIST south Korea, which country would you want to live ? ).

*Where the leaders live in opulence while the citizens starve to death. Can you name a capitalist country where the citizens starve ?

Rev A

 

I'm a believer in God so I can't be a delusional fool.

 

No you mis read,Those that are believers in this GOD crap are worse then delusional fools as the delusional fools are sick have an illness are irational .

Whereas GOD Nutters are Pathological liars,Deliberately Ignorant and will basically believe anything that is stupid ,like the Government of the USA is Honest and likes its citizens.

Or that the War in afghanistan is winable crap like that!

Illness vs diliberate ignorance !

Oh a warning to the GOD Faith Nutters,the attack against science is over a more militant Science is being developed to put GOD back down the sewer thinking and backward slime that it came from!

The Secular Revolution is here!

 

I'll say the same thing I say to the anti-Masons, "Bring it". Your "secular revolution" will not end God and as long the US Constitution stands I will practice and believe what I wish, and if in the sad event it completely goes away, I'll still practice and believe how I wish. As is the old tale, out of your revolution you'll become tyrannical in practice and from your fear, paranoia, and hatred you will create the enemy who will overthrow you...and it will probably be religious in nature.

 

All socialist societies end in failure.