Julia Gillard pledges $6.8 billion Australian tax payer dollars to the IMF.

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  1. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    This labor government will be remebered for a very very long time.

    The worst PM and labor government in our history.

    I hope labor is reduced to a minority party at the next elections.

    Is she allowed to do that with rspect to our constitution?

    Shouldn't all tax payer monies go towards bettering our country Australia in all ways!!!!

    Is it illegal to send Australian tax payers money to overseas institutions?

    She probably thinks she can solve the GFC too not only pollution problem.

    What a w@nker the day she is ousted will be a day of celebration.

    READ HERE
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/gillard...aid-friends-with-benefits-20111104-1n04y.html

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    F the IMF.

    Won't we need to borrow?

    Why do the ALP think that the 22 million people in OZ need to save the fn world?
     
  3. Bowerbird

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    Because the 22 million in Aus are not starving and dying
     
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    Well, if we stay at 22 million maybe we won't.
     
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    :-D First post here.

    We already give away far too much in aid and donations to other countries and this worst lot Labor has ever had in its history give away or waste more than ever - just throw money at a problem and hope it either goes away or that they gain status on the world stage - something all politicians seem to suffer from.

    As for 22 million, already passed it and more arriving every day some internally gaining up $5400 per baby.
    [Some young girls who are told at 13 due to yet another of the UN's treaties to disrupt societies in western countries - Rights of the Child - they can get the pension if they have a baby. As well as having to pay running away from home allowance this treaty is a nasty one designed on Gramsci's dogma to break down the family.
    And of course is yet another pull factor to any incoming peoples who have larger families than us]

    Others by boat illegally who get in under UN treaty on Refugee Convention 1951 and its 1967 Protocol which means all are welcomed as refugees even though passing through safe countries which will allow them to stay and work unless by some chance they hit on the real names of these who have destroyed the passports and ids which got them to the country they took passage from on the smugglers boat and find out criminal record.

    As well as those skilled workers invited to fill job vacancies who at least will work and pay income taxes which is not the case with many legal refugees or illegal boat people accepted so easily under UN convention and 1967 Protocol as refugees when in fact even Indonesia and Malaysia class them as economic migrants quite rightly.

    Bureau of Statistics issued a very telling media release on the day of the Royal Wedding when most were glued to TV screens saying that many of the latest arrivals as refugees in particular from Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Pakistan 83% were still drawing the dole after 5 years here and Afghani's in particular 93%.

    So what we are facing is a problem in the making that means we should not be sending more money but less overseas as we will be needing it to support all those who rely on the taxpayer for their livelihood.

    Recently it was said we now have 7 million living off incomes from Centrelink and of those 2 million are actually old age pensioners so have paid their income taxes and worked but the rest of the 5 million are on welfare which seems to be a lot on unemployment, single parents pensions, disability pensions.

    Far from making the elderly the scapegoats we need the government to look at why so many are drawing welfare and tighten up the criteria - get rid of the baby bonus would do a lot of good as well as split the disability back to where is once was - invalid pensions for those who never will be able to work and maybe another partly disabled pension for those who can work part time or even full time with some help with transport and incentive to employers by way perhaps of tax cuts for disability friendly needs filled etc. And reserve child care for single parents maybe so they can work too. Got to be a solution.

    Because this is a big looming burden on taxpayers who already have the burden of paying back the largest debt in the history of the nations and a Labor government borrowing 100 million a day having squandered the 22 billion left in the bank and no debt by Howard.

    Meaning as already pointed out borrowing to send more to IMF on top of the aid we already send far too much of to countries which we are supposedly appeasing.

    Lots of problems but the Gillard government rolls on seemingly blind to the fact it is inept, incompetent and in office when we the majority who think about things and realize we simply cannot go on borrowing endlessly -
    :chainsaw: want it gone.
     
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    a) coming by boat is not illegal.

    b) Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says that everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
     
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    What!!! they are going to borrow $6.8 billion and then just flush it down the toilet! These people are insane!
     
  8. dumbanddumber

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    Lets face it whether we like it or not, Australia as a whole will one day be a state in the new world order (NWO).

    The one thing that really turns my guts inside out, is all world leaders including ours no matter the color are all going along for the ride.

    Makes you wonder what they are being offered to jump on this train, must have plenty of gravy hey, i suppose Tony Blair got a cool $27 million for sending the troops in to Iraq.

    I wonder if Johny got anything?

    I guess little old grandma Greece with a population of around 11 million is going to have the privelage to be the first state of the NWO.

    I wonder whos next, Ireland, Italy, US, UK, Portugal.............. and the list goes on, lets just say the whole world.
     
  9. mister magoo

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    Spot on...people on the forum should familiarise themselves with Agenda 21
     
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    Did you actually read your link?

    She is not sending Australian tax payers money overseas

    She said the money would be available, and ''if that is drawn down upon, it's a loan, it's an asset on our balance sheets. It's a loan on which interest is paid.''

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/gillard...th-benefits-20111104-1n04y.html#ixzz1d42XHcnj

    Does the Liberal Party pay you to start these threads?
     
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    Oh nooooo.....we'll all be rooooooned!!!!!!!



    ...meanwhile - back in the real world:

    Australians the world's wealthiest
    Australians are the wealthiest people in the world, says the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Report 2011, which measured the wealth of the world's 4.5 billion adults.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/executive-sty...-wealthiest-20111101-1mt2r.html#ixzz1d43TfC9E


    You really should stop believing Alan Jones
     
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    Did you really fall for it? :-D:mrgreen:
     
  13. mister magoo

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    "Australians the wealthiest in the world"....crap...

    A mate of mine works in the motor bike industry...he says the dealership used
    to sell 120 bikes a month...twelve months ago...now theyre flat out selling 70...
    what does that tell you...almost 50% reduction in sales...the street where
    all the bike dealers are used to be full of cars and buyers...couldntget a park some days...now the streets are deserted...people are getting laid off in all
    industries, and businesses are closing down...

    Dont believe what you read in the papers folks...we ARE NOT the wealthiest
    people on the planet....
     
  14. bugalugs

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    Yes of course. How silly of me to look for financial information in research from a major international investment bank instead of your bikie mate.
     
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    I bet you didn't even read the article.
     
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    There is nothing to "fall for" if you understand what the IMF actually is, as the Business Council of Australia does:


    As Business Council of Australia chief executive Jennifer Westacott put it: "Australia has acted in such a way as a global citizen in the past by agreeing to contribute through the IMF during the Asian financial crisis and should be prepared to do so again if necessary to support global and ultimately our own economic interests."
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)/story-e6frerdf-1226188167571

    Abbott's days are numbered. This childish fear-mongering is starting to catch up with him
     
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    [quoteShe said the money would be available, and ''if that is drawn down upon, it's a loan, it's an asset on our balance sheets. It's a loan on which interest is paid.''[/quote]

    So how much has been made available for loans to Australians? This disastrous Labor government can find $6.8 billion to loan to foreign interests, surely they must have at least an equal amount to loan to Australians. No? why not? Why bother with the carbon tax when you have this sort of cash just laying around, why not use it to fund investment into renewable energy projects? Something doesn't add up here... Don't forget that they have to borrow this money first before giving it to the IMF, how interest will we pay on the loan and how much will we get back in interest? how much are we going to pay blood sucking lawyers in fees to set it all up? What are the time lines? It's a loan right, so when will the IMF give us our principle back?
     
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    The IMF is just another vehicle to redistribute wealth. These are taxpayer-backed loans, and if the borrower defaults, the taxpayers are left holding the bag. That's not a valid use of tax dollars IMO. Taxes should be used in the country that collects them; otherwise, they are just ripping people off.
     
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    Stop believing Tony's pathetic whinging and open your eyes.

    The Business Council of Australia is hardly a den of wastrel Socialists:
    Australia Must Play a Constructive Role in the G20 Deliberations on Europe...“Australia must play a constructive role by being prepared to make a contribution as appropriate to any negotiated solution, including through our membership of the International Monetary Fund (IMF).
    http://www.bca.com.au/Content/101893.aspx
     
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    Yes - isolationism is the way of the future. It is working beautifully for North Korea.
     
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    In the meanwhile we allow, and encourage, thousands of welfare seekers to push and barge their way into our shores, so they can milk our welfare system dry.

    We must be the laughing stock of SE Asia!
     
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    People should read Agenda 21
     
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    Yes - you probably are, but why the royal plural?
     
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    If you don't understand the meaning of 'we', in the context of this discussion, then I politely,and with respect, suggest you take a remedial lesson in English.

    And no, it's not the Royal We!
     
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    Hey bugs

    I'm a labor supporter at heart but i serioulsy want Gillard out even if i have to vote for the libs and Abbott, Julia has become like Tony Blair, she's got to go.

    So bugs what is the IMF?

    I'll tell you if you dont know they are financial terrorist that hold entire countries to ransom, one day they might even come a calling here.

    But the funny thing is bugs they tend to lend alot of money out to nations that they have engulfed in debt yet they themselves are facking broke.

    They haven't got any real money to lend like cold hard cash or gold.

    They haven't got a cent, so you see bugs this $6.8 million will be a nice xmas pressy for those criminals, they should all be in jail.

    BTW bugs who gives Gillard the right to give away $6.8 billion of Australian tax payers money to overseas institutions?

    She came to power to run this country not save the world from AGW or GFC.
     

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