Questions For Those Who Believe Homosexuality Is A Chosen Behavior

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  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    You are ONE of hundreds of people I've seen making the SAME STUPID ARGUMENTS. You aren't using logic, and you should know that. I'm not 'crazy' either... so I won't keep repeating this for you.

    STOP HATING GAY PEOPLE, SLY.

    Time for me to move on now.

    Peace.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    You keep countering with zero nich nada. I use fact and logic you counter with emotional drivel. This isn't a counter argument to the point I made thus it was pointless to make. Where is your proof that it's not genetic?
     
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    *shrug* Exactly like a straight man being attracted to a woman?

    Pedophilia and rape share more in common though, in both cases it's not really about being attracted to another person but about reducing a person to an object by seeking power control and to act without consent.

    The restriction against both comes down to preventing harm. A restriction that doesn't make sense in a consensual sexual relationship, regardless of the sex of the couple.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    What makes a straight man attracted to a women is .... genetics you are correct. But heterosexuality is normal I'm talking about genetic abnormalities.
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    Check yourself.
     
  6. Johnny-C

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    That isn't known.

    Homosexuality is "normal", by definition. What you've believe or been told, doesn't change that fact.
     
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    Like being left handed?
     
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    Exactly.:)
     
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    Val1101 New Member Past Donor

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    That is incorrect. There is nothing genetic about so-called "sexual orientation". Apparently this is your first foray into this type of debate. You have no idea what you are talking about.
     
  10. Johnny-C

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    No, you are incorrect yourself. There is evidence that genetics may play a possible role within a group of related factors. You're just plain wrong to say genetics is not included as being related.

    A lot of people should know better than they apparently do.
     
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    What we can safely say is that your view is obsolete. You are posting obsolete links to obsolete information. It's clear that you are driven entirely by a passion that some might call hate.

    Wikipedia? Good teachers in elementary school won't even accept that as a source because it proves that the student did zero research on the subject. University professors go nuts when students try to quote Wikipedia as a source, it's a sure-fire way to fail the course.

    I accept your admission of being "cold-hearted". Your motives are obvious to all.
     
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    We keep running into this obsolete data problem in this thread. The latest research based on the Human Genome Project shows that "sexual orientation" is less than 1% caused by genes. The other 99% is environmental.
     
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    No. If I recall, someone related recent data indicating that research is ONGOING.

    These claims you're making here are essentially unfounded.

    In any case, whatever causes/affects a person's sexual-orientation, has no bearing upon their rights as a human being.

    On the practical level, when you show me a LARGE group of heterosexuals that CHOSE to be 'straight" (and can prove that they did it), I'll agree that we have seen significant evidence that human beings do choose their sexual-orientation. Until then, it is just your opinion, waiting to be refuted or qualified by scientific data.
     
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    I'm still waiting on the info that shows sexual orientation as 99% environment. Val, if you have this information, prove it.
     
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    Then your saying it's a choice.
     
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    You'll be waiting a long time.
     
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    I'm saying it's a series of choices that lead to a sexual addiction.
     
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    For your edification I've been searching for the original link to the study that said less than 1% genetic causation. I'll post it as soon as I find it. Right now there's so many SEO manipulations going on around this subject that it's not showing up on the first page of search results like it did the first time I found it.

    For now, we're at 62% environmental causation according to Lung and Shu (2007)

    http://www.mygenes.co.nz/lung&shu.htm
     
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    I don't believe that is the case for most people. Some sure ACDC decide to go homo because it's easier to relate to the same sex then it is to get along with the opposite. But I think most have a desire that drives them to be homo. ie are born that way. And in that case it's genetic. And anything genetic can possibly be someday altered or at least detected.
     
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    Agreed. So let's also agree that pedophiles like Muhammad and Joseph Smith do not have a "right" to marry and molest children, OK? Are we good on that one? Can we agree that such a "right" would be harmful to society?

    I'm working on it. Be patient.
     
  21. Johnny-C

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    You are saying and/or believing a LIE. (Can't you find out that isn't true?) Do you have Google, and do you know what a reputable source is?
     
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    Irrelevant stuff. The topic is related to "homosexuality", not pedophilia. Your attempt to associate the two things, is sheer BIGOTRY, born of sinister intent or abject ignorance. (You choose.)

    No, I don't trust you... and the next time you make a sensational claim, you need to put the evidence up front; otherwise, I see no need to conclude anything except the likelihood you are lying.
     
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    You are born a homosexual and it's an attraction of the abnormal kind.
    You are born a pedophile and it's an attraction of the abnormal kind.
    You are born a bestiality and it's an attraction of the abnormal kind.
    All genetic disorders.
    I've already posted my proof from reputable sites.
     
  24. Johnny-C

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    Your commentary doesn't even make sense.

    No comparison to heterosexuality or homosexuality.

    That makes NO sense. :(

    No. You've failed to prove what you have claimed. Try something else.
     
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    Having an IQ over 150 is abnormal; being left handed is abnormal; standing over 6' is abnormal; having red hair or liking sardine pizza is abnormal. Being black is abnormal. Being born male is abnormal. Einstein, Lincoln, Ali, Picasso, Feynman... thank God we're not all normal.

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