NATO air attack on Pakistani troops was in self-defense

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  1. Nosferax

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    Then everything is fine then. The USA can tell china to go (*)(*)(*)(*) itself and china will do just fine... After all the european countries, like greece, spain, portugal, ireland and the UK who are such economical powerhouse can take the slack that the wealthiest nation would leave.

    Yeah... How many time did you flunk economy 101? We know you flunked history and politics already but how about economy?
     
  2. MortAtticusAmsel

    MortAtticusAmsel New Member

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    yes richest nation in the world.. you fail to acknowledge however that america borrows most of its money... if america relied on america alone, it wouldn't even come close to having what it would need to maintain its imperial empire.... this is why china buying us debt is such a big deal..
     
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    MOON --- did you notice that the NATO General mentioned that there were Afghan and international personnel killed and by place them at the end he indicated that they were killed first????
    "I have written to the Prime Minister of Pakistan to make it clear that the deaths of Pakistani personnel are as unacceptable and deplorable as the deaths of Afghan and international personnel."

    <<< MOD EDIT: OFF TOPIC/FLAMEBAIT REMOVED >>> Take a look at the size of our economy compared to our debt and then look at how much of that debt our own people hold.
     
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    he meant killed as in killed throughout the war, not killed in this incident. and have you ever heard of a bubble? an economic bubble? have you ever payed off a loan with another loan?? cause that's what the US economy is.. a decadent bubble... do you know what the largest US exports are? weapons... the US is a giant arms dealer... aren't arms dealers bad guys? what was the US top exports to china.. scrap metal and waste paper.... Its a hallow shell... it sure does look tough on the outside but on the inside its a rotting corpse.
     
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    :mrgreen: I'm interested in how this revelation will be dealt with.
     
  6. MortAtticusAmsel

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    oh and i see your from Texas, where the most job growth was in the US. tell me Iron River... whats it like working at Burger King?

    (In case people don't get my point, Taxes did indeed have the most job growth but the jobs were part-time crap work like burger king, McDonalds, gas stations... hardly anything people can live off of)
     
  7. Nosferax

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    Another one who failed economics 101. The USA, like all of North America is rich because of its ressources, natural and intellectual. The money "borrowed" from china doesn't even really exist, its monopoly money. The chinese don't have any money sources beside what the USA and the western world give to it. Their money is artificially pegged to the US currency because if it was traded freely their economy would collapse, just like their shoddy construction project and mines do all the time. The world lived for centuries without any contribution whatsoever from them, just like the arabs funny enough...

    Come back to us when china really start innovating and creating useful tech in todays world. If it wasn't for us they would still be an agrarian civilization that couldn't feed itself.
     
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    Wait you are talking about our soldiering when you are flying the POLISH flag! Wow go charge another tank on horseback and get back to us.
     
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    You seem to forget that fact that American pilots have reported as being shot by Pakistan AAA sites at when they are on patrol. So self defense claim has some merit to it.
     
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    And you know this how?
     
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    I think the big picture is being missed. It does not matter if they fired "warning shots" or if we attacked unprovoked or failed to stop.

    The big picture is that nothing is being accomplished in Afghanistan. After this many years, the only thing we are now achieving is the hatred of America and we are paying dearly in lives and money to get hated more.

    The opportunity to help Afghanistan was squandered early when we decided to start torturing innocent Afghani's, and then send all our troops to Iraq to let the war lards take control.

    Now it is a quagmire of which there is no good outcome. The lesson, screw with american and we will attack you, was achieved years ago. Now the lesson is that american power has limitation and we can not conquer countries with strong guerilla opposition. Same lesson we should have learned in Vietnam.

    It is time to come home and let Afghanistan rule itself without our blood and treasure being squandered for no benefit.
     
  12. fredc

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    The incident occurred inside Pakistan, the Afghan military was there unannounced. If the Afghan soldiers really were fired at, if warning shots actually were fired then that would be quite understandable. The post is there to stoop Afghanis crossing the border into Pakistan. If it happened, which we don't know that it did, the Pakistani soldiers would only have been doing their jobs.
     
  13. truth and justice

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    This coming from someone who has posted:
    "The money "borrowed" from china doesn't even really exist, its monopoly money."

    "All that we need is some other cheap labor pool."

    Have you ever had the chance to flunk economy 101? Your two statements are akin to stating that you need water to swim. As for your second statement, where is this cheap labour going to come from. (rhetorical off topic question)
     
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    True. So many countries have tried this failed tactic in Afghanistan over many centuries and have returned with their tails between their legs. When will countries read up on history.
     
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    America should withdraw from Afghanistan. If Pakistan or Afghanistan is used again by terrorists to attack the American homeland the US should simply nuke them.
     
  16. Albert Di Salvo

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    Afghanistan has been conquered many times. All that is required is to approach the problem in the Mongol way.
     
  17. Iron River

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    Sorry, I don't own any Burger Kings.

    Let's take a look at what it means when Burger King is hiring?? The oil field is booming? Thousands of new high paying jobs are be created faster than we can get people to fill them? Our natural rescore inventory is up so we have more people with money from oil and gas being produced on the property?? All sorts of drilling supplies companies are growing??

    As you read this a family that has been poor all of their lives will sign a million dollar contract to allow drilling on their old family farm in Texas. We may have created more millionaires in Texas than they did on Wall Street this year.

    We have the highest inventory of human sex slaves exported to the ME so our illegals are getting richer by diversifying their product line.

    Halliburton just moved to San Antonio, Texas so we have that blood money in the state.

    If you need a real job I can put you on a drilling rig in ten days no matter how stupid you are.
     
  18. MortAtticusAmsel

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    It's obvious isn't it, read the quote. think about it, in all the discussion and articles to have come out about the incident has any of them mentioned american casualties? no...
     
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    yes well apparently the economics 101 they teach in the us sucks because your banks needed a $7.7 trillion bailout, your auto industry was nationalized and apparently it involves lots of destruction and death (iraq, yemen, afghanistan, pakistan, somalia) but on the upside all your industry was exported to other countries like mexico and thailand for cheap labor so they could maximize profit and in a capitalist greedy society like america's, that was the smart thing to do. America's foreign policy is a cancer on this earth... show me where america has bettered anybodys lives they claim to be doing and show me those iraqi WMD's please
     
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    do they not have that right? if china were flying planes over american air space and we fired at them is that not self-defense? and NATO knows this because of previous incidents that didn't involve the deaths of soldiers, Pakistan told them we will defend our airspace so watch where you are going.
     
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    Funny enough, the Auto industry isn't nationalize. They paid back their debt...

    All those country that you name have something in common... Guess what? They are all muslim and they all espoused terrorism and despotism as a way of life. Not enough died BTW... More would have been needed to get the job done, we may have to do it again in a few year.

    Apologist like you are the problem... Maybe you should hide for a few years...
     
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    US jet enters Canada's airspace all the time, we are allies, we don't shoot at them...

    Pakistan is supposed to be allied in this war. If they can't keep their mongrel soldier at bay then they'll get was is comming to them...
     
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    To fire on aircraft that isn't even a danger to them, or even over their airspace? No they don't. That is like the US firing a SAM at a aircraft over Canada.
     
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    Again how do you know this? Do you have some first hand knowlege about this?
     
  25. MortAtticusAmsel

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    yeah no i wont be hiding, im not afraid of bigots.
     

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