Student challenges Bachmann on marriage

Oh dear is this misinformed or what?

The genetic element of homosexuality is well established, though the particular genes aren't.

 

I'm wondering if your opposition to gay marriage might have something to do with how you feel about homosexuality.

 

Of course it does, and here I thought only liberals made irrational arguments because I "feel" this way... Mistaken

And btw Mac-7, you keep repeating that society makes the laws and we have to follow the will of the people.

For First Time, Majority of Americans Favor Legal Gay Marriage


Society now supports gay marriage... Does society still get to make the rules or does your "its ikky" argument still win out?

 

Its always amusing when liberals bring up that poll.

Yet in every single direct vote on gay marriage by the people you are 0-33.

Lets make sure you got that. Gay marriage is 0-33 in direct votes by the people.

That includes 2 votes in 2008 in the most liberal of states, California. A good 3 years after that poll. When it really matters, the voters speak for themselves.

Icky isn't it?

Funny how you guys always miss that

 

Feel free to post your studies and I'll be happy to destroy the theories for what they are once more


Twins, Brain study, Fruit Fly, all have been laughably exposed for the theoretical nature of their claims.

 

I'm usually always in agreement w/you, Tex, but ........

I have friends who have - well, had - 4 sons. 3 straight and 1 gay. It was the shock of their lives when they found out one was gay - What happened? He had the same parents, taught the same values, same type of upbringing, same everything....

Nothing was different for Kevin. He told his parents he had felt 'different' pretty much all his life and he told them this when he was 16-17 after a bro told the parents the truth about him..... he's gone now - AIDS.

After hearing my friend's story and a couple of other friends who have gay children, I'm inclined to believe they are born that way. I suppose some are a product of their environment, but in Kevin's case and the others, their brain was just wired differently at birth .... or something.

Also, I just find it hard to believe that someone would deliberately chose a lifestyle where they know they will be ridiculed, mocked, bullied ... sometimes killed (i.e. Matthew Shepherd case)......

What I don't understand is how a straight person can decide to be gay or lesbian...... now that, I can't make any sense out of......

 

Its not a choice, therefore it must be genetic. Even if it wasn't doesn't give people the right to deny equal rights.

 

Some people like to insist that people choose to be gay simply because they can't up with any other explaination for something they just don't understand.

Saying a straight person could choose to become gay is like saying a gay person could choose to be straight. It simply isn't possible. We don't choose our favorite foods, we don't choose our favorite colors, we don't chose the school subjects we are talented at - we just are. And whether we are gay, straight, black or white, we are human and we all deserve to be treated equally and fairly under the law.

 

What is the difference between your three examples and gay marriage? All three of your examples are ILLEGAL.

Got a better argument than that?

The anti gay marriage crowd will always bring up those subjects when arguing against SSM. They have nothing else.

 

Are you thru w/your snit fit? I wasn't trying to be offensive, I simply stated I do not understand how a straight person can become gay/lesbian and it has happened .... ever hear of Anne Eiche - some ditzy actress who was lesbian for several yrs, living w/another woman, the 'love of her life" - then left her and decided to be straight.... her explanation for changing her lifestyle? She claimed she was 'crazy' when she was lesbian.....

Every hear of Meredith Baxter? Another actress.....married, had kids, divorced and recently heard her say that she's 'now a lesbian'.......

If these 2 women and the rest of them can change gender of partners, why not just say they're bisexual?

What about that crazy case posted here not long ago of those 2 married guys w/kids, divorced, got together, became gays, decided to become transgenders, went back to straight, got married ....???? Well, it went something like that. Most screwed up case I'd every heard of. Anyway they bounced from one life style to another, like they couldn't make up their minds what was 'natural' for them......

If us straights can choose our favorite foods & colors, why can't you gays? Who closes your foods and colors for you, if not yourselves?

Not sure what you're talking about w/the 'school subjects you're talented at...
What about them? If you understand science, physics, math or whatever and excell in those subjects, it simply means you've born w/an intellect to understand that subject, but at the same time, you could also be a poor speller ..... kind of like an artist and/or musician. It's a talent/skill you're born with.....

 

It wasn't a snit fit directed at you, HB. I was simply stating what I believe to be true.

Yes, I have heard of Meredith Baxter and I do not know whether she chose to be a lesbian or not. She might simply have claimed she did because she was angry or something. Who knows.
I would say that people who go from heterosexual relationships to homosexual relationships are bisexual, but if they don't feel that way, they can't be expected to label themselves that way.

Choosing foods we like isn't a choice, we either like something or we don't. Subjects at schoo we might be naturally talented at, but no one goes to school and decides to be brilliant at maths, do they? They either are or they aren't.
It depends on each individual person.

 

Number 1) I am not a liberal but I believe in equal rights (like over a quarter of republicans)
Number 2)The graph goes to 2011 so how was it done three years ago? Maybe you should research something instead of looking like a fool, the last poling was done in May of 2011. The results are as follows:




If you will notice that SSM is growing in support as the elderly die off. Much like marijuana is doing. Young people know more people that are gay and realize the long held propaganda against them is incorrect.

I have included a few more articles since the one written above in May of this year is three years old (aint time travel amazing!)

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/23/local/la-me-gay-marriage-support-20110523

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/21/us-gay-marriage-poll-idUSTRE74K0B520110521

Not far off on that last one...

 

Many people believe this, but most laws concerning miscegenation concerned themselves with the issues of specifically blacks/minorities (Hispanic, oriental, or Native American) "poisoning" or "diluting" the purity of the White Race.

Few cared if a minority married a different minority.

These laws were in place until 1967 when the Supreme Court contravened the "will of the people" and declared such bans unconstitutional.

 

What makes a marriage legally binding?

 

So was gay marriage illegal until the unelected lib judges forced it on the public.

 

It wasn't illegal, it just wasn't legally recognised. You won't get arrested if you go to church and 'marry' your same sex partner. Nothing stops you from doing that. Your marriage just isn't recognised by law.