Israel to attack Iran by Christmas – report

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  1. The Judge

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    Sigh, such Holocaust abuse really doesn't help Jews. Accusing everything and everyone of hating Jews is not going to help Israel to become better.
     
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    ' Hating jews ' is the usual hiding-place for inarticulate Zion-mongers. They are particularly peeved that the term ' Semites ' relates to a much broader base than the jewish variety.
     
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    You don't like how the world accepts basic language precepts, go make up your own language. You can start with these:

    http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Elvish_languages
     
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    Semites are a language group.. They speak Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic and so forth.. They aren't a "race".
     
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    Ha ha!

    What a joke.

    The problem is....the joke is on you.

    :)
     
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    Israel has been a very erratic ally.. I take it you have never heard of the Lavon Affair or the three hour attack on the USS Liberty.. or their sabotaging every peace initiative since Eisenhower.
     
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    http://endthelie.com/2011/11/24/bom...-then-blame-it-on-the-iranians/#axzz1fR2D35Cd

    The British media say Israel may launch an aerial strike on Iranian nuclear facilities as early as next month. The offensive will receive support from the US, the speculation goes.
    The attack is meant to decapitate Iran’s nuclear program, which a recent report by the UN atomic watchdog said may have a military component.
    The Daily Mail cites British government sources as saying that the cabinet expects Israel to attack Iran “sooner rather than later.”

    “We’re expecting something as early as Christmas, or very early in the New Year,” a Foreign Office source is cited as saying.
    The operation will receive logistical support from the United States, the newspaper reports. US President Barack Obama will allegedly have to back Israel to secure Jewish-Americans’ votes for the upcoming presidential election.
    Earlier, the Guardian newspaper reported that the Ministry of Defense is drawing up contingency plans for Britain’s participation in a joint military operation against Iran. The report said such an attack would be carried out by Israel and probably the US after the presidential election in America.
    The Daily Mail cites its sources as saying that Whitehall currently rules out Britain’s direct involvement in an attack on Iran.
    The International Atomic Energy Agency released a report on Wednesday which included allegations that Iran had been developing technology related to nuclear weapons before 2003 and may still be doing so.
    Tehran called the accusations politically motivated and based on lies. It refused to step back from its nuclear program, which it insists is purely civilian in nature.
    Iran’s supreme leader, the Ayatollah Khomeini, has warned both the United States and Israel that if they strike Iran, they must expect a “tough, harsh response” from Tehran.
    “We are not a nation to sit back and watch materialistic, corrupt and rotten powers threaten Iran. We will respond with a strong slap and an iron fist,” he said. Khomeini also spoke about “aggressors and invaders being smashed from within.”
    On Wednesday, the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad slammed an IAEA report, saying that Iran would not step back one iota from developing its nuclear program. The report was relying on baseless US claims that Iran was building a nuclear bomb, he added.
    A number of international players called for further sanctions against Iran following the report – both through the UN Security Council and at national level.
    Speculation that Israel is preparing to attack Iranian nuclear sites surged in the media shortly before the IAEA report was released, as the allegations contained in it had been leaked in advance. Officially, Israel has neither confirmed nor denied such plans, but said military action against Iran is on the table and is more likely in the wake of the report.
    Iran said it would retaliate if attacked and named Israeli nuclear facilities among the possible targets.
     
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    http://endthelie.com/2011/11/24/bom...-then-blame-it-on-the-iranians/#axzz1fR2D35Cd

    Bombs away: explode a nuke in Israel then blame it on the Iranians?
    By Richard Cottrell
    Contributing writer for End the Lie
    If an attack on Iran is to carry traction with world public opinion, there must be definite proof that she plans to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.
    A nuclear weapon exploding somewhere inside Israel in the next few months, allegedly fired by the Iranians, would seem to provide all the necessary grounds for massive retaliation.
    The US/Israeli problem rests on the plain fact that not everybody is convinced that Iran seeks nuclear weapons. Or, even allowing this, she would then undertake an insane mission to use them on Israel, thus ensuring a massive counter strike.
    We are back to the weapons of mass destruction fable which led to the disastrous invasion of Iraq.
    In any event, is the regime in Iran actually that stupid? Israel has at least fifty warheads capable of hitting Iran, her cities and oilfields. A first strike by Iran would simply ensure that Iran herself was wiped off the map.
    The logic is so obvious, why does anyone believe the war talk coming out of Washington and Israel, not to mention a score of Western capitals?
    American spinners are careful to concentrate on bunker-busting bombs to wreck underground facilities associated with the nuclear program. This would avoid civilian casualties, or at least largely so. Job done then?
    Not quite. In fact, not at all. As with the last western-inspired overthrow of an Iranian regime back in 1953, the real issue is the country’s huge oil reserves.
    Sixty years ago the government of the aristocratic, deeply conservative Dr. Mohammad Mosaddegh was taken out because he picked a fight with the Anglo Iranian Oil Company. The dispute was rooted in the Iranian conviction they were being ruthlessly cheated on fair distribution of revenues.
    Mosaddegh nationalized the company, Britain’s most precious overseas asset. The US and the UK then spread the false alarm that the Soviets would be invited take over its activities.
    The CIA-inspired Operation Ajax then sprang into action. The Iranian government was wrecked by a huge urban guerilla campaign costing millions of dollars even in those times.
    Much of the money went on recruiting and arming violent mobs of demonstrators. The weak constitutional monarch, Mohammad Reza Shah Pevlavi, was then levered into power as a puppet of western interests.
    The Anglo Iranian Oil Company became British Petroleum. Game, set and match.
    Iran’s passion to acquire nuclear weapons is the cover story that conceals the west’s real interests in Iran. As before, this scrap is all about oil.
    Blowing up Iran’s nuclear facilities will leave large holes in the ground but the government intact. Indeed, such attacks would almost certainly harden public support for the west’s great boogeyman President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the conservative clerics who are the real power in the land.
    If US policy is to stir internal rebellion to permit an Ajax-style coup, they will be sorely disappointed.
    It is correct that many Iranians would indeed prefer a more western, relaxed liberal style of government. Sanctions are having a serious impact on the wealthier, mainly secular classes. The restless young envy the freedoms of their western counterparts. Restrictions on foreign travel are more than just irritating. They are bad for trade and business in an ancient trading nation.
    But an apparently popular revolt, even with all the means at the disposal of western intelligence, will not be quite so easily accomplished this time around.
    Nobody in Iran wants another colonial imposed Shah.
    I am quite sure that the increasing internal disturbances inside Iran are part and parcel of a grand destabilization exercise, the opening stages of Operation Ajax Mark Two. But in themselves they are very little more than pinpricks.
    There is no obvious indication that they are having any impact on public opinion. Anyway, all Iranians suspect that the real game is oil grabbing. History is their guide after all.
    They are not sure that finding themselves in another dystopian American colony, like Iraq and Afghanistan, is such an appealing prospect. American soldiers and lawless “contractors” are their own ambassadors.
    In any event, to secure control of the Iranian oil fields, the west must either install a pliant government or invade. An invasion is always far easier if the country’s national infrastructure is first obliterated.
    The perfect excuse might be a nuclear detonation on Israeli soil. There are portents of this grim possibility.
    Recent mysterious explosions in sites reputed to house finished nuclear warheads are blamed by western and especially Israeli intelligence on failed attempts to cap missiles with nuclear warheads.
    Storyline: Iran is already preparing to arm missiles and then use them against Israel.
    This incredible nonsense duly made its unquestioned way to all the corporate headline spinners.
    If the intention is to let off an Israeli nuclear weapon, say somewhere in the remote Sinai Desert and then blame it on Iran, then this would be no more than a modern variation on the ancient history of war.
    The Israelis would posture in the classic position of the injured party that struck back with a massive conventional response, aided by the US, instead of revealing the existence of her own ultra-secret nuclear armoury.
    With Iran suitably smashed up, the conditions are ripe for ground occupation of key points – such as the oil fields.
    The new IAEA report that Iran will soon be a nuclear state has raised the alarm, although it is such a remarkable reversal of previous agency statements it seems to rank as propaganda produced by long distance arm-twisting from Washington.
    However, there are interesting clues of internal friction. Elements of the intelligence services, Mossad and Shin Bet, are demonstrably nervous.
    Meir Dagan and Ephraim Halevy, both former heads of Mossad, have spoken out openly against attacking Iran. They question why a country that gets billions from the US taxpayer every year to defend itself is at any serious risk from Iran.
    Why should attacking Iran provoke such uncertainties in unlikely quarters? Could it be the prospect of the mother and father of all 9/11′s? The military are also disturbed about something, when normally they would go after Iran like greyhounds on steroids.
    Netanyahu has problems concerning Iran within his own cabinet. Thousands have protested outside the Likud party’s headquarters at slippage into a protofascist state which proposes draconian clamping down on free speech. Israel is disturbed and unsettled. Iran hangs over everything, like a bleak thundercloud.
    Israel has a long history of blaming responsibility for incoming missiles on the Hamas authorities in Gaza, or Hezbollah when they come from the direction of Lebanon.
    This is simply a matter of record. Israel has attacked her own citizens, like NATO’s secret Gladio armies attacked European citizens during the “years of lead” of the 70s and 80s in order to scare voters away from Left wing parties. Gangs of urban Marxist guerillas, surreptitiously steered by intelligence interlopers, duly got the blame.
    The claim that Iran is arming missiles to attack Israel now should be judged in the same light. Yet once the idea is successfully planted, opportunity beckons. I sincerely hope that I am wrong.
    Richard Cottrell is a writer, journalist and former European MP (Conservative). His new book Gladio: NATO’s Dagger At The Heart Of Europe is coming in January of 2012 from Progressive Press.
    Edited by Madison Ruppert
     
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    The Israelis have been threatening to attack Iran every year since 2002... I don't think they will.... because basically they know Iran will NEVER attack them.

    But, Zionism requires a high state of fear to continue to exist as an ideology.
     
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    ' Unsettled ' might be the wrong choice of term. :mrgreen:

    Certainly ' disturbed ', however. Zionism is an extremely disturbing doctrine.
     
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    What utter rubbish! Trust the Daily Fail to omit to mention the little matter of Ayatollah Khomeini's death in 1989!:mrgreen:
    Still, when did facts ever get in the way of selling papers?
     
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    When a newspaper takes the risk to say what the resto of the "official" press hiding, probably they risk their fame. I have often found that these "side" informations have the key of what is happening.
    Think is normal that all the press of USA_EU is centering inSyria, when they are worst massacres right now in Congo or Sudan, with governments doing nothing to arrange things?

    You may well say they are the official voice of WahingtonD.C, Tel Aviv and friends pointing where the master orders. See they do it while they all follow instructions to add oil to the fire, like the reliable matter of syria, with fake list of victims and false videos. Has USA press showed these images supporting Syria president?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9gqq-FFgJM&feature=related"]lies about syria - more than 11 million all over syria supporting our presidant - YouTube[/ame]

    Same happens with Iran. Most interesting video: why they would want to make a false flag about Iran?
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2HwY9oOLgk"]THE EMPIRE OF LIES: Why the US government is pushing a war against Iran - YouTube[/ame]
    See obama mumbling excuses about Iran situation. Was he caught without the set of excuses prepared?
     
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    Second vid.

    Diannne Feinstein, nee Goldman.

    Do you suppose she is a RC?

    A Mormon?

    A Jehovah's Witness?

    A Sikh?

    No - me neither.
     
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    He looks pretty dąmned healthy, being supposedly dead for 22 years:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/ayatollah-khamenei-warns_n_1085925.html

    itsatip: you're confusing Ayatollahs.
     
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    Oh the question of the National Construction of the Stalinist Regime 1948,US Impearialism 1948 .

    Yes must be of little concern that the Israeli Nation was hatched out of an agreement between the STALINIST's and US Impearialism ,poor thing didn't have a chance ,

    Yes on US ,life support for the last 60 years ,Economically unviable the subsidy's are the only thing going for it !

    Now that US Impearialism ,lets say is a little embarrassed financially it will be cutting on the Foreign Aid budget.

    Nation Most effected ,Welfare State Israel which produces Jaffa Oranges and ???????????????

    Oh thats right it produces War and suffering all over the Middle East!

    What does Israel Manufacture ???????????????????

    Why should the US susidise the Historical Abortion of Israel ???????

    Why do the Zionists think they are 'God Chosen " so deserve the Welfare payments from the US?

    If the Zionists want a return to the "promised land" that a regression of society by 3500 tears then they should do it out of their own pokets ,what exactly does Israel produce again???//

    Oh thats right Jaffa Oranges and sintered Carbide cutting tips ............

    t is a world leader in what fields of human endevour ??

    Thats right Religious Nuuty Ideas with no relevance to today!

    World leader in Religious Nut Jobiness!

    What does the Israel economy produce again?????????
     
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    If given a choice between WW3 or the dimantlement of the Israli non-Nation ,then sorry goodbye Israel hello Palestine !

    Could a defender of the Bastard state of Israel tell us exactly how the 2500 year gap from Israel 400BC to Israel 1948 bloody HUGE social DISCONTINUITY THAT!

    Please explain the end of Israel in BC ,sorry I use the christian year thing don't know the Hebrew from moses thing !

    So yeah BIG Gap in contiuity and PALESTINE fills that gap like Totally !
     
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    Israel attack Iran I would in this political climate ,Egypt,Syria,all Arab Nations ,Bring it on !

    4million vs 350 000 000 not real fair ,and don't think the US military CAN intervene because its stretched to breaking point as it is!

    Not to mentiona slight Economic crisis presently tearing Israel's big brother and financier apart!

    No what ever the Israeli Government may want to do ,until the US says yes then sorry won't happen !

    Last thing the US needs is for the Zionist Nut Jobs to make a New War with anyone else !

    Oh one other thing EGYPT!

    See children before you were grown up their was a War in Iraq and big missiles landed on Israel blowing things up ,

    Israel wanted to retaliate but was told to take it for they are totally reliant on a big Nation called the USA for their existance !

    Little tiny Israel in order to exist is told what to do by the USA!

    Little Israel cant fart without getting permission from the USA!

    So the chances of Israel doing any Independent action is ZERO until approved by the US State department and Hilary Clinton!
     
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    Or done by them...
     
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    The true voice of the Jewish People who know the fraud that is Israel !

    Zionism is a cancer on the Jewish People and Humanity as a whole yet we get Mossad agaent after Mossad agent spewing out crap about the Jewish homeland being Palestine !

    Time for the total dismantlement of the Zionist NOT Jewish Israel!

    The 1 state Solution goes by the name of Palestine !

    Death to Israel ,it gets a special added warning to the Working Class trapped in Ysrael ,either smash the Israeli State or perish with it Israeli Workers!

    Is not to often that a Socialist calls for the destruction of the Working Class if it dosen't act,

    but Israel's continued existance is so anti-humanity as whole that we will see the Working Class destroyed in Israel rather then be associated in a Fascist state!

    If workers do not break from the Lie thats is Israel they to deserve to perish!
     
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    Yes Im,sick and tied of those in the Pay of the Israeli Government coming on this forum and given free reign to spew out that Israel has a right to exist because a bunch of United Nations reps Voted in 1948.

    Cheif amongst them was the USSR thats right all those that hang onto STALINIST concepts of what can be called a Nation need their heads read for fascist\STALINIST infection!

    None of the Mossad Want to be's can explain what happened from the time when Israel Disolved in 400BC to 1948?????

    Excuse me a little continuity whould be nice History and society and thinking people whould like to know the fantasy explaination of the 2500 year Gap!

    Palestinian History on the other hand includes the missing 2500 years in justifying its right to exist!

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    There is not now and nor has there ever been any such thing as a Palestinian, the Jews have had a continued presence in Israel for 10,000 years, the Arab swine on the other hand only recently entered the area within the last 1,000 years during the Islamic Imperialist conquests.

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    Here is my problem with all this. Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the SAME god, their languages just have different names for God. The three religions all have similar teachings, and all 3 recognise that Jesus existed. The difference there is who they think he was.

    To the Jews he was the spore of a demon, born to a harlot. To the Muslims, he was a prophet of God, and to the Christians he was God incarnate.

    Therefore the three of you cannot insult the others God as that would be insulting your own. You cannot use the mistreatment of women as all three put women into a lower place then men, the degree of difference is more to do with religious fervour then doctrine, as is head covering etc. It's in the old testament as well, so are veils, so is women not instructing men, worshipping with them etc

    The difference then is not in their God, or what he wants. The difference is in man, and what he wants.

    They use God as an excuse to get what they want.
     
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    Now the US has always puzzled me. It says... In God we trust.. It states that it is a Christian country, Christian ... Christ Like... yet

    the three most supported religions non-Christian are ..

    Mormons ... worship ET
    Scientology .... worship Tom Cruise
    Judaism ... believe Jesus is the son of a whore
     
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    Israel violated the Armistice of 1949 with Jordan by allowing it's civilian population to occupy territory outside of the UNGA Resolution's 181 partition area. In that treaty with Jordan it was agreed that none of the territory occupied by Israel was to be considered as Israeli territory and, at best, Israel could claim the partitioned lands specified in UNGA Resolution 181 as being a part of Israel as that was the (mispresented) foundation for the Israeli Declaration of Independence.

    Israel has repeatedly violated it's treaty agreements as a member of the United Nations by refusing to comply with UNSC Resolutions. Compliance with UNSC Resolutions is mandatory for all treaty member states in the United Nations.

    Israel is in violation of International Law with it's occupation of East Jerusalem.

    The occupation of the West Bank and Golan Heights is a violation of the Geneva Conventions. Member nations are prohibited from moving civilian populations into military occupied territories.
     
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