Why is so much of the religious right so backwards?

I think homosexuality is kinda disgusting, but I hope to hell I always have bigger fish to fry than worrying about someone else's sexual proclivities.

 

Why do you call them fellow Christians? I can see nothing Christian about them at all. Whited sepulchres, maybe, or pharisees. I can't see how they can even pretend to believe when they are so full of hate and letter-worship.

 

Stunning rebuttal!

Whups. Now you're forced to agree to more societally rejected behaviour, in order to be consistent. What about bestiality? That's the funny thing about that "old, stupid argument": it flummoxes the likes of you, and forces you to declare support for positions and behaviours that you know the vast majority of society rejects.

But speaking of nyah, nyah, neener neener, you just want these rights for gays because you sympathize with that...just not the cow focking thing, right?

You have no defense against the other if you support the one.

Do you know why society has the word 'adultery' and the word 'polygamy'? Because they're two separate things.

Strawman. We're talking about that which is codified into law here. The line is that which is made legal. Gays can live with each other their whole lives, and know in their hearts that they are legal. They need nothing else from the rest of us, but demand it anyway.

And part of the problem is the preferential tax and legal treatment given to couples, which is just another controlling element foisted upon us all by Government. That should be erased, and allow people to live as they wish.

But that does not mean that my church should be forced by law to marry a gay couple, nor does it mean that the institution of marriage - a simultaneous secular and religious institution - should be besmirched by an act which doesn't honor its intent and meaning.

Then you too must support bestiality, because protections of the same "rights" are involved.

 

Any societal structure which forms rules around which society has decided to protect its stability is considered by you to be fascist.

It's an abuse of the word. You need look no further than the hypocrisy which is the OWS to determine how a micro-society - complete with rules and created law enforcement - was created within OWS camps to prove that your notions of anarchy are a fool's fabrication.

Lo and behold: a 'fascist' police force created within the very group of people who are supposed to abhor such a notion.

Your fantasizes die in the arms of reality each and every time.

 

Tell me which ones you think I'm not defending. This thread has focus. Can I not attack an issue without mentioning other issues? It's stupid if I can't have a discussion without bringing up everything that's in any way related at all.

The simple fact is this thread is about something specific. The backwards dogma often plaguing the religious right in the USA. It's not about guns. Or animals. Or pencil sharpness. Though I'm still unclear what other rights I'm not defending (and don't see how it's relevant since I didn't attack any of those rights).

 

In our culture, an open display of Christianity has become regarded as offensive. There is a war against religion.

 

i believe the logic flaw is slippery slope.

 

just look at the hate for Tim Tebow

 

Your obsession with bestiality says a lot about you.

Personally, I don't care what a person does sexually with an animal ifit doesn't cause pain to the animal, although I would find it digusting!

There are laws against cruelty to animals, so hurting a small pet through bestiality is already taken care of by law.

Now, if you think that penetrating a cattle with a hot dog is hurting the it, what do you think a vet putting his arm up to his elbow in that cattle? Or worse yet, the cattle being tassered and forced into the chute to its death to satisfy our craving for blood and meat qualify as

One is a disgusting thought for the greatest majority of people,
The other is considered "big business" and is therefore acceptable,

 

Fascism for me have a clear form. And I never say fascism to everything. Just to the things that are fascist

And many opinions of the Christians remember me to the opinions of the Radical Islamic people like one that said that women should not go close to bananas because that could excite them... What shows a thing... Who has the dirty mind? Eh

 

The left supports that there is a bill that will allow it in the military

 

In beastiality, the animal can not give informed consent. This is a truly lame argument and very desperate, and very old and whithered.
I have never heard anyone, anywhere, ever, suggest that a church should be forced to marry two gay people. Totally specious.

 

Yes he does. Marriage is one man and one woman.

Matthew 19:2-6

New King James Version (NKJV)

2 And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them there.
3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”
4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a]them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

 

It was tied to sodomy, which all of us, in one way or the other, tend to enjoy.

This is a fellacious argument. It has been soundly discredited all over these boards.

Shame on you.

 

We were discussing homosexuality at the time of my post. Jesus does not discuss it.

 

Christians do not attack gays they repeat what the Bible says the Gay community falsely calls that an attack

http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/angry-mob-of-homosexuals-attack-christians/


http://archive.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=166

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Xb-au-wpU"]Castro District Gays Attack A Christian Missionary - YouTube[/ame]

 

Where would you find Christianity in your culture please? Religiosity won't wash. Where does it fit the Sermon on the Mount?

 

My point by saying that is that people should have the right to (*)(*)(*)(*) animals and be polygamous if they want; I hope I didn't confuse anyone.

If animals don't have rights, then people do have the right to (*)(*)(*)(*) them if they want. That is the logical conclusion. I don't want the government or anyone else having the power to dictate anything that personal

 

Fair enough.
But when they then try to make their beliefs the law of the land they have gone into attack mode against their fellow Americans.
Believe what you like, and defend the rights of those that disagree. That will ultimately protect you as well.

 

No more stupid than comparing gay marriage to interracial marriage.

 

What is discredited is the left supports this until it is used against them.

Sodomy is not something most Christians do. I am sure you know little about Christians though.

 

No more than you have declared war against those that disagree with your religious convictions.
People are free to express their perceptions of the absurdity of fundamentalism, and you are free to support it.
No war.
Just freedom.
The only real war you could point to is that the founders declared against controlling peoples religious thought or supporting it, via the First Amendment.

 

Read the scripture. As from the beginning one man and one woman. This leaves no room for homosexuality. This shows homosexuality goes against what Jesus taught. It also leaves no place for Gay marriage.

 

You believe Christians do not enjoy oral sex?
Really?

 

What are you talking about?