Sec of State Clinton Slams Egypt on Treatment of Women

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  1. catalinacat

    catalinacat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very well said as usual Liebe. However, that's what they always do :ignore:- they try to deflect away from the subject and throw out a red herring.
     
  2. Mayerling

    Mayerling Well-Known Member

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    It is obvious that she is wearing nothing but a bra underneath that abaya.
    I live here and I know how people dress.
    The guy kicking her is wearing tennis shoes.
    There is something very odd about this photo. Mark my words, this will be exposed as being a set up.
    That being said, there is nothing to excuse the type of violence that is going on on both sides.
     
  3. moon

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    What ' photo ' are you talking about ? Are you describing a still from the substantial video of the Egyptian military brutalizing civilians ?

    That aside- and the video is impossible to forge- from what weird source to you glean the notion that the illegality of stomping somebody in your custody is justified by the brutes' choice of footwear ?
     
  4. Liebe

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    Well done Moon.

    How a woman's clothing has become relevant to her being beaten for a lengthy period by soldiers, baffles the mind. Now the shoes of the attacker are also more relevant. The brutality of the beating is a non-issue it would seem. :omg:
     
  5. moon

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    The original revolutionaries are embarrassed by the behavior of the military, which has retained power. That's understandable. What isn't understandable is any attempt to justify that behavior for political ends. Those responsible should already have been named and charged. And Abu raises a good point. Where is the prominent victim ?
     
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    But all the injured were taken by motor cycles to the Omar Makram mosque or Tahrir doctors then to Qast el Ayini hospital after first aid and all of the dead were gunshot wounds.

    They are picked up immediately and carried on the motorcycles to the filed hospitals. No photos or videos of her at the field hospital and the ONLY thing is this video. Don't you think that is strange? Not a single photo or anything after the attack. No protester saying anything?

    Could it be she did get up and walk away?
    Seems amazing but it's very strange not one person followed her or photographed her after, or spoke to her.

    Just seems strange.
     
  7. Liebe

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    Must be that third force again.

    It all never happened.

    Feel better now?
     
  8. Abu Sina

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    I just want to add something before I forget.

    Someone a few days ago posted a U Tube video of a beating from Qasr el Ayini supposed to be from this week. It was actually a video taken in 2007. Nothing to do with what happened this week or Qasr el Ayini.


    Someone was posting it as new when it was not.
     
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    I see so its kind've standard procedure to thrash peopleand jump up and down on them, even women lying motionless on the ground, before you send them off to hospital, kind've for good measure just in case they're not really injured right!

    I think the protestors are saying a lot only you're not listening. That doesn't mean they're telling you who she is and where her family is afterall they might just be thrown in jail accused of insulting the military. I don't think there would have been much use in trying to speak to her, she looked pretty gone even before being picked on.
     
  10. Liebe

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    Dead, imprisoned? Promiment victims who become the spokeswoman/man for revolutions aren't too welcome I am sure. It would be terrible for the military if she were to become prominent not so?
     
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    This comes as a shock as I find it hard to believe an organisation called the muslim brotherhood would not be gender inclusive.
     
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    yes pretty much standard procedure under Mubarak and his intelligence services

    ever heard of US rendition in Egypt?
     
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    Except this isn't under Mubarak is it or are you claiming the video is from that time? Or maybe you accept that there hasn't really been a revolution only a handover to his crony Tantawi?

    What has this to do with US renditions in Egypt? Just trying to take a retalatitory swipe at your perceived enemy like a wounded animal?
     
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    LOL point made. Muslim sisterhood would certainly be an improvement.
     
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    No one is justifying the level of brutality exercised by the military. However, due to inconsistencies with this photo-, I am skeptical about the validity of the photo.
     
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    Yo it never happened. The Egyptian women are protesting nothing. All is well. Goodnight, muslim BROTHERhood and hope you get what you deserve.
     
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    The Moss Bros. can take care of their sisters, don't you worry about that. Their civilization is thousands of years older than yours and Islam is a stronger faith.
     
  18. Angedras

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    Mayerling, I have a sincere question for you, okay?

    Living in Egypt, do you believe yourself and other Egyptians are better off today, than before Mubarak stepped down?

    Thanks
     
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    Hillary should engage her brain and tell the Egyptian people.. men and women.. that they are fully capable of negotiating these changes... for themselves.

    She's still a bull in the china shop like that dimwit Karen Hughes.
     
  20. Mayerling

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    Nope, egyptians are not better off today if you are talking about:medicine, food, heat,security, worry, depression,
     
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    Meaning no disrespect to the people of Egypt, and perhaps a bit astray from the subject matter, but I'd like to say...


    The current events are once again a clear picture of the inept Obama administration.

    Calling for Mubarak (an ally of the U.S.), to step down, only to be replaced with this?!

    While in Syria, persons are being murdered daily at the behest of Assad (an enemy of the U.S.), and nothing is said.


    You guys tell me, what is wrong with this picture?

    I contend, the current U.S. Obama led administration, is rife with cowards and fools.

    just my thought.
     
  22. Liebe

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    Yes I saw how they took care of their sisters!

    I was born in Africa, where all of mankind arose, so I think you should reconsider your claims.
     
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    Thank you for replying M,

    I'm honestly sorry to read that, although I feared as much.

    Keep safe. ;)
     
  24. Mayerling

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    I agree. Everyone knew that when Mubarak exited the scene, be it by death or by revolution or by coup d'etat- in office or out- there would be a huge power vacuum. The question was how to handle and control that scenario. Egypt is paying the price for an enthusiastic and noble revolution with no exit plan considered.
     
  25. Mayerling

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    Thanks. Two protests planned for tomorrow.
    One anti-mubarak in Tahrir
    One pro-mubarak in Abayasseya I believe.
     

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