Putin and Medvedev face being killed

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  1. raymondo

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    Professor Vladimir Tomsinov, LL.D., Head of History of State and Law Department at Moscow State University, published online his lecture "The Revolutionary Situation in Russia". Prof. Tomsinov states in particular:

    "Putin and Medvedev do not understand one thing: the head of the state or the head of the government heads a group of officials in power. These officials are not all fools, there is a lot of smart peopl among them. They were very unhappy with the humiliating decision of swapping the posts between Putin and Medvedev.

    They understand what it all comes to, that by their behavior, these two idiots threaten not only the property but also the lives of these people, the dignitaries. One can predict what will be further, as in all revolutions: in Russia in 1917, during the French Revolution, in the English Revolution.

    It starts with a split of the ruling class. In that ruling class a group of capable people emerges, they begin to form the counter elite, their own group, which is struggling for power.

    It is dangerous to leave the power in the hands of these two idiots - dangerous for the country and they themselves. They will not be able to flee. As soon as their legitimacy finally disappears, all the capital of the Russian elite in the West will be confiscated.

    Those who protest will go on trial, they will be thrown to prison, because it will not be difficult for Western lawyers to prove the criminal origin of their money. They have money in an amount which is thousand times higher than their official salary.

    The developments, I think, would be tragic.

    On March 4, Putin will go to elections. Why did he falsify the previous elections and, thus practically declared as illegitimate his own elections. Was it a suicide?

    A suicide is a sign of a severe mental illness. What did he expect? The March 4 elections will be also considered illegitimate. He wants to win in the first round, since in the second round he can lose, and to lose to anyone ...

    The bulk of the protesters are very decent people, 30 to 40-year old; among them there are many students, office workers, educated intellectual people. And he intends talk to these people with clubs.

    This is just ridiculous. They have absolutely realistic demands. The elections were rigged - do something, but Putin sent instead a whole army division against them. A whole division was brought in Moscow. This situation is dangerous for the country, but above all - for them.

    If blood is spilled, it is almost 100% certain that neither Putin nor Medvedev will be left alive. The fate of Gaddafi is waiting for them. Type in on a Russian search machine: "Putin is a thief", and there is more than 5 million sites where you can find these words.

    Death lists for executions of the whole ruling elite are now being prepared. It's gonna to end bad, obviously. The people realized that they had nothing to expect from the state, we must rely on themselves only".
     
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    The true problem is what will be happened after two guys gotta go. The country is highly corrupted,people are poor, there are neither manufacturing nor the possibility for the making money. It is difficult to believe that something good is waiting for Russia, unimportant who run it.
    I do not believe that it can survive later as ten years as a whole country, probably it will be a conglomerate of many small dwarf states fighting each others and which look like Nigeria or Sudan. The posting about Russia is wasting of time, it is an unimportant poor country which interests nobody.
     
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    The Best what the small remain of clever Russians still could do is packing of luggage, purchasing of tickets and Buy-Buy-Russia!Otherwise it will be too late.
     
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    Ну и шутки-юмора у тебя Остап-это полный Абзац (untranslatable Russian humor)
     
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    This post is some wet dreams of westerners........

    I certainly know why westerners don't like Putin, because they are afraid a strong Russia.
     
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    You talk out of your top hat .
    Westerners -- and certainly the British --- don't fear the Botox Upstart other than in the field of energy supply . At the moment , Russia supplies around 25% of EU requirements , and alternative supplier positions have been developed from' 09 .You simply cannot trust Russia which has nothing to do with fearing him .And that is a world view .
    The big loser is Russia itself . Nobody wants to do business with them until corruption is tackled and companies can operate safely within the Rule of Law .
    Other than that , there is no contact . And nobody thinks he will ever attack anybody further West than Lithuania . And even if he did , his Military is badly out of date and he knows it -- see post Georgia skirmish conclusions and present budget proposals .
    Sorry , Lynx , you are way off the mark this time.
     
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    Is that the same reason why we despise every other despot in the world?

    The truth is that Russia will never be a world power again. Russia is in permanent decline and theres absolutely nothing Putin can do about that. Hes had his shot and proved that he cant do it. The only reason why Russians put up with his dictatorship in the first place was because they thought Putin would modernize the country. Now that that illusion is gone theres no reason to support Putin (or his poodle, medvedev) anymore.
     
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    Only very naive people can believe that after ten years of Putin Russia will became strong again.
     
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    No one in Kremlin needs any modernization of country, only bribes and selling of natural resources are important.It is difficult to believe that Russia will be more stronger as Finland or Estonia after Putin's two new "elections".
     
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    Whether you like to do business with Russia or not, the fact is, after 18 years of long talk, Russia finally join the WTO. I can only see the increase in doing business with them.

    Britain on the other hand, your prime minister just make EU very mad, putting the old empire in an isolation position and will threaten UK to become a second state nation in the world.
     
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    I almost thought you were talking about Britian........
     
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    Is your spelling that bad ?
     
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    Believe it, Russia just joined WTO, this just the beginning, Russia will rise just like China has done after she joined the organization.
     
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    Not mine, his. He should spell "Russia" to " UK" in his post.

    It is UK facing the threat of being in permanant decline and become a second state nation.

    Russia joined the WTO; Britain is facing isolation by EU. Who is in decline?
     
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    Should he also spell , "Banker " instead of "lynx" in your new language ?
    What you need to do is to try and pick up information internationally from experts , rather than rely on "sound bite" comments from magazines .
    Talk to experts and ask them who has outperformed every other major EU State in the last two years re stability ? Ask them who is now seen as a key determinant of the future EU , despite being outside the Euro ( smart move Great Britain!! ) . Start by asking Angela Merkel , representing the other lynch pin of the EU .
    Ask any expert about the future of Russia and they all agree the prospect is very bleak . The only difference is their view of how long it will be before the Federation fragments and the economy falls further behind --- with the clueless Putin there another 8 years .
    Should the Oil price collapse on lower demand , Russia is in terrible trouble with its budget based on a minimum average of $110 .
    Incidentally , Russia was only admitted to the WTO because of international pressure to find compromise positions which stopped Georgia using its Veto repeatedly . There's real irony !!
    Russia was only really admitted as a PR exercise with major players hoping that it might wake it up and help stop it dragging its feet in so many different areas .
    So well done . You raised at least three distinct points and managed to get each of them totally wrong .
    But in your favour --- that's a typical score for an American
     
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    Someones angry. :xd:

    Here you are, mocking his grammar when your own isn't so great to be honest.
     
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    Anger?
    Clearly you have no inkling of me . When I "do" anger , that's the time you run .My Post was a mild rebuke of a naughty boy who got his sums wrong.
    And when your English and grammar is half as good as mine , I might take you seriously . As for vocabulary? Try troglodyte , for starters .
     
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    The typical riposte of an inferior .
    Try ,
    Someone's angry .
    There you are , mocking his grammar , when your own isn't so great .

    Your version had one poor choice of word , a missed apostrophe , two missed commas and included a redundant last three words .
    The Biter , well and truly bit . Or , as Gary Kasparov might say ," Check Mate".
    And finally , you get zero marks for Comprehension --- you are probably far too young to be aware of that discipline .
    My comment had absolutely nothing to do with his grammar .
    There was some light hearted fun built around " mistaken attribution of meaning " .
    Are you still with me ?
    No ? Well , that's no great surprise
    Therefore , in that vein , I suggested his name might be spelt with a word sounding like " Banker" , as a synonym for his own Forum name .
    All far too complex and subtle for a lad like you , it seems .
     
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    Can you type that in English this time Akhmed? :)
     
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    UK is a second rate nation :bored: The seat in the security council and the nuclear weapon are nothing more than remnants of a glorious past squandered long ago.

    The fact that you even bother comparing Russia with it just proves my point. Russian population, and their oil production is in decline. There is simply no way Russia will ever become a super power again.
     
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    And who said that "super power" for Russia is a super main goal? Putin or Medvedev?
    My country full of problems without this sick idea.
     
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    ISIS got it in for Putin...
    :hmm:
    Islamic State executes alleged Russian spy in video, threatens 'dog' Putin
    Dec. 3, 2015 -- The Islamic State is claiming to have beheaded an alleged Russian spy in an execution video released Wednesday.
     

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