stop Obama's recess appointments simple

GOPpers, it's simple: come off vacation. If you say you're not in recess, sue, takes years, but meanwhile come back

 

That's too simple a solution for them. Then they realize other Presidents have done the same thing they are complaining about.

 

Article I, section 5, clause 4 says that the House has to agree to an adjournment for the Senate and there was no such agreement. Therefore, there was no recess and any "recess appointments" are unconstitutional.

 

So take your only recourse,sue and quit (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing!

 

Apparently the President doesn't agree with your interpretation, so let the House use the legal system and challenge him if they feel he's violated the constitution. So far I haven't heard of any challenge being filed so I'm assuming that no violation occurred.

 

I won't be surprised if this ends up in court.

 

It probably should end up in court. Congress clearly can't interfere with the President's rightful execution of the law. Congress is at fault here, not the president.

 

Yeah and the President would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that darned Constitution!

 

Also, his DoJ thinks it's Constitutional. But GOPpers, your case can only be resolved in court which will take years.

Meanwhile just come back any time you wish and stop it immediately, except some GOPper reservations for mountain lodges and ski resorts might need be cancelled

 

Yes many Presidents have done recess appointments, only problem the Senate was not in recess. Obama actually voted to do the very same thing back when he was in the Senate so GWB couldn't do what he just did. If nothing else it is very hypocritical of him. All I can say is what goes around comes around.

 

Of course the DOJ would back him up, he serves at the whim of the President, and if he didn't back him up he would be gone.

How can you come back when really you never left? If we are talking about vacations, lets make the President actually do something when he isn't taking vacations.

 

President Obama has not taken any more vacations than other Presidents. Also, the whole mess is because the Republicans do not like a law that was passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President. They have been on record as approving the canidate the President appointed. If they had any sense they would just move to change the law, it is in their power to do so. They need to stop acting like children pouting in the corner.

 

I did not say anything about the amount of vacations he has taken, I simply said I want him to start to do his job and LEAD the country instead of blaming the House for everything.

Well it looks like they don't like the guy after all, I will take your word at them approving the candidate, not too sure on that one. If in fact they liked the guy why did he not get approved?

Yes they need to stop acting like children, both sides of the aisle. But then again as one who voted for Obama, when children are left without a leader that is all they will do, fight and pout. It is a lack of leadership in Washington.

 

Well, The President's powers are limited. He should not have to hold the hands of grown men who are supposed to be able to place the countries needs ahead of their own personal agendas.

He did not get approved only because the GOP wants to change the Dodd-Frank Law that created the CPA. THey do not like the fact that there will be a single person in charge of the Agency. They want to create a board, comprised of bankers and other people that the Agency is supposed to regulate. THAT is the only reason they even refuse to talk about the appointment. They did the same when President Obama recommended Elizabeth Warren for the position.

I also voted for President Obama, and will do so again in 2012. You can not blame the President for lack of leadership when he has a political party who only desires to see him fail, at the expense of everything. Despite what the GOP say, President Obama has been one of the most moderate Presidents I have seen in my lifetime. He has been so moderate, that liberals in his own party are upset at how he has tried to give in to the conservatives.

 

That's the way its always been done in Washington, D.C.

 

There was no recess. That's why this is an issue.

You can't sue for this. Nobody has standing.

 

Dodd-Frank did pass and is the law of the land, I'll give you that, but to my knowledge this is the only executive agency that's set up under the FED and has no Congressional oversite. That's a bit unprecedented I think. That's what they would like to change.

But speaking of Dodd-Frank, Section 1066 specifies that "the Director of the Bureau is confirmed by the Senate in accordance with Section 1011.” So what would be in accordance with Section 1011?

“The Director shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.”

So even if the Senate really were in recess, the appointment still requires a Senate vote. So Cordray's appointment would be illegal even if there had been an actual recess.

 

Well, there are ways to go about changing the law. I am pretty sure that the President knows that it will be overturned. However, he also knows that it will take years to run through the court system. During that time, the consumer will have an advocate willing to stop the predatory lending that is currently going on.

 

The President isn't on vacation - he's in DC taking care of business while the House and the Senate are on vacation. Isn't that what the fuss is all about?

 

We had an administration that governed for 8 years with absolutely no Congressional oversight. The Repubs in charge refused to question one single thing the President and VP did even when it was clearly outside the law. And now they suddenly want oversight?

 

Well, I hate to defend President Bush, but he did not send us to Iraq and Afghanistan unilaterally. Congress was full of frightened little children and they voted to approve The Patriot Act AND give him unlimted funds and power to send our troops out to fight.

Presidents can't do much all by themselves so If I am going to defend President Obama, then I will have to extend the same right to President Bush.

 

Granny says, "Dat's right - `cause he's the Prez'dent...

Justice Department memo argues Obama recess appointments were legal
01/12/12: The Department of Justice offered a defense Thursday for President Obama’s controversial decision to make several recess appointments while Congress was holding pro forma sessions.

 

Really? Not one single thing? That's quite a distortion of the Bush years.

 

I don't see the problem to be quite honest.

The White House does this all the time...

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You don't see the problem with Obama, for the first time in history, making recess appointments without a recess? Personally, I don't really care too much but it's never been done before.