Who has the right to Israel?

This is true. Israel chose to cause harm to the innocent civilians since Israel attacked Egypt. Even if one blames Egypt for being attacked by Israel, Egypt did not force Israel to cause harm to innocent civilians in Palestine.

 

I didn't say that. I said Israel controlled it. You're the one who argued the land wasn't controlled by Israel.

 

i don’t know that actually i believe many are descended form people who used to live there though lots of other blood has no doubt bin mixed in

Judaism doesn’t seem so big on converting

 

Some Jews have blond hair or black skin. Anyone or everyone could be the kin of someone who lived in the middle east at one point in time. It's all relative. It is who lives where now which matters the most, as well as the rules for drawing political borders.

 

because no one else has homicidal land grabbing ancestors no sir

 

While not all Palestinians are innocent, the general argument is that the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is justified since Israel attacked Egypt.

 

What in the World???????????

 

This is all very complicated.

All I know is that it will remain complicated, but that's life.

Do we need to further complicate things by killing each other?

Let's just talk ourselves to death -the process is slower, but the end result is the same.

 

Attack Israel? You mean those guys who live below the Aswan Dam? Not a good idea.

 

maybe if Egypt and other Arab stated did not immediately attack Israel things would be a bit better you can convince me Israel has wronged people you can’t convince me that there the only ones who have done so and are doing so

 

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If Israeli illegal settlements in the nation of Palestine are "justified", then what measures have you taken to promote the expansion of Hamas settlements in Israel?

 

You can't call fellow members of PF racist. Stop it.

 

that’s no good that’s a horribly wrong argument

 

Left some bits out there and the not justified as far as i can tell

Though (*)(*)(*)(*) hamas

 

If you do not advocate the expansion of Hamas settlements in Israel, then you acknowledge that "Israel has wronged people".

 

So, you oppose Hamas since it is not expanding illegal settlements in Israel. This means that you would love and support Hamas if it was expanding illegal settlements in Israel.

 

This also does not prove that the hated Semites are not the kin of Samaritans. Many Zionists tend to smear Semites with unconditional racist hatred, but they can't prove that Palestinians are not Samaritans:

Much of the local Palestinian population of Nablus is believed to be descended from Samaritans who converted to Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritan#Samaritan_origins_of_Palestinian_Muslims

 

I don't see how that follows.

 

If Israeli settlements in Palestine are acceptable, then Hamas settlements in Israel are acceptable. Thus, under existing conditions, America is required to be advocating Hamas settlement expansions in Israel to avoid "Israel has wronged people". Yet, since America is not doing so, it cannot argue that its position is just. Of course, the US government can always argue that "might makes right", but that's exactly what Hitler figured, and we all know what became of that.

 

I disagree. American settlements in Texas are acceptable, that doesn't mean IRA settlements in California are too. The U.S. controls these regions and get's to decide what's acceptable.

By whose authority?

 

In this case, you are talking about how American citizens choose to reside in America. Such is a different situation from forcing another nation to accept your nationals. Hamas has the right to force Israel to accept its citizens as long as Israel continues to argue that such is justified, as it is doing while we speak.

By its own authority. Hamas settlements in Israel are legal and justified through current Israeli actions. Israel has made it clear that it is perfectly acceptable for one nation to settle another. Israel has justified and advocated the expansion of Hamas settlements in Israel via its engagements in Palestine. One cannot argue that Hamas settlements in Israel are wrong, since such would mean that Israeli settlements in Palestine are wrong.

 

Hamas isn't a nation.

Hamas isn't a nation.

 

Why not, ? Whats good for the Goose is good for the gander . I've been called an anti-semite + much more , many times and not heard you or any of yr ilk , objecting to it .

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I never said that Hamas is a nation. Hamas is a political party in the nation of Palestine which is globally recognized and accepted by over 120 nations.

Israel has thus advocated and justified the expansion of Hamas settlements in Israel since Palestinians are not Israeli citizens.