‘Hamas-Israel deal imminent,’ to the dismay of Palestinian factions

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  1. Borat

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    The absense of cheering excited "peace-loving" pro-Palestinian advocates aka (Israel hate mob) in this thread is also noted. ;)
     
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    Cheap labor for the Israelis, and high import taxes to Gaza via 2 tax ports before anything reaches Gaza.

    Win win for the Israelis.
     
  3. Borat

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    Israel already has more than enough cheap labor, hundreds of thousands laborers from South-East Asia, the Phillipines etc, Israel can have half of Africa if it wanted to. It's win-win for the Palestinians but it's not what it's all about is it? For self-proclaimed pro-Palestinian supporters it's all about the elimination of Israel and nothing else.
     
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    What tax port ? you are making things up, if its Gaza port Hamas will collect taxes, btw, they already do for any incoming supplies from Israel.
     
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    Israelis do not want Gazan workers any more.
    They can go work in Egypt if they want, but they are not welcome in Israel anymore.

    Gazan will get peace for peace. If they want war, Israel will react accordingly.
    All this Turkey talk is just wishful thinking, nothing to do with Israel.
     
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    Gazans do not get peace for peace. Gazans get hell for peace. 100,000 homeless, power shortages make it difficult to even do operations, safe water is hard to find, the entire population is traumatised especially children. A significant number of the children now suffer from low growth due to malnutrition = something which can never be corrected and will in adulthood result in reduced IQ. Even new born babies are harmed by anemia by the siege
    http://www.imemc.org/article/55049

    Gaza is a warehouse for human beings to suffer in until Israel believes that the west has become sufficiently neo Nazi that it can commit mass murder/forceful expulsion from there and the sad thing is it may not be too long till we are.

    The supposed deal with Gaza is to finalise the division of Palestine begun with the Israeli withdrawal and stop a proper solution for the Palestinians.
     
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    For self proclaimed Israel supporters it's all about the bigotry and persecution and nothing else.

    OK, that's inaccurate.

    It's also about pouring gasoline down Arabic throats, setting them on fire, and then faking outrage to a gullible 'international community' whilst at home the fascists openly march on the streets braying for more of the same.
     
  8. Gilos

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    I hate to tell you this but PLO objection to this deal is because they do want to continue the same pressure you oppose on Gaza, they want to show only Abu Mazen can strike deals with Israel, so what are you in favor of ?
     
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    Its a cease fire propossal, can we enjoy 24h of fantasy before it gets canceled ?
     
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    Oh I see, that's what explains the fact that Israel supporters in this thread are cheering for truce with Hamas, skeptical as we may be, while self-proclaimed Palestinian advocates are conspicuously quiet at best or spewing venom and hatred at worst. Thanks pal for proving my point.
     
  11. Dutch

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    At the cost of $3mln apiece, were Hamas not spending these money on tunnels, they would have better electricity supply. And reduced IQ usually is a result of inbreeding.

    My (*)(*)(*)(*)ing heart is bleeding... NOT!
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, Hamas is entering into a peace agreement with Israel thereby "pouring gasoline down Arabic throats, setting them on fire"? Eloquently put for sure, but how again does it make Israel vilian? Should have Israel refuse peace with Gaza? Palestinians seem to believe so, and so do you :confusion:
     
  13. Gilos

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    Its funny to see how ppl are "programmed", peace, co-existance or any kind of agreement is BAD because it gives Israel some breathing space :) and they call us warmongers :)

    The second its gets cancelled they'll jump again accusing Israel of failing it even thou they were against it themselves. Europe may have cleansed itself from official Gov' anti-sematism but unleashing its radical left socialist-anarchists at Israel is one of their lowest attacks....:roll:
     
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    He has no idea what he wants, give him a few days to digest what we said all along, Hamas will eventually have to come in terms with Israel - shame on all the lives they sacrificed this far, and Israel isnt about to disappear..... :)
     
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    I was effectively parodying your post.
     
  16. Dutch

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    Like others, he probably want Palestinians to remain perpetual victims, for this gives Israel haters the ability to do what they do best - hate Israel. So, peace between Hamas and Israel does not play well with them.
     
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    I thought this smelled. Israel would NEVER negotiate a short term hudna with hamas. It is of zero benefit to themselves and massive benefit to Hamas.


    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.671642

     
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    These negotiations been there for a while and all along Israel denied it in front of PLO, there have been former denials as well but we still hear of it, so it depends on who you belive.
     
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    Strawman.

    You think that a hudna with Hamas would bring about actual peace?
    somebody floated a fairy tale that some wish to believe with all their little hearts is true.

    Israel gets bupkiss. Hamas gets the lollipop and Israel gets the stick. doubt there are many Israelis stupid enough to accept such a deal, but every Hamas member would be drooling at the prospect.
     
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    All along Israel has denied the rumours that continue to persist. I sure as hell don't believe the rumour mill especially since it is being propagate by non-Palestinian Arabic sources.
     
  22. Dutch

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    So... Hamas is drooling at the prospect of peace, but there's not many Israelis who want it?

    I've tried to find logic in what you've wrote, but hurt myself :wall:
     
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    amazing. a hudna is not a peace, it is a temporary cease-fire.

    But of course you not actually understanding the nature of a hudna thinking it was a peace deal is not surprising.

    Hamas would be drooling that embargo restrictions would lifted, and that gazan workers could actually go back to work in Israel, and at what price? A promise not to fire rockets into Israel or dig a tunnel?

    They already deny they are shooting rockets into Israel claiming its other groups doing it and they can't police everyone.
     
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    Your views of the conflict are diametrically opposite to reality. Israel wants peace, Hamas wants the annihilation of Israel. Granted hudna is no peace, it's still 8 years of calm and 8 years of potential cooperation and trust building with Hamas. While peace is impossible now, a long term truce is a giant step in the right direction.

    Israel gets more than bupkiss, it gets what it has always been seeking, a chance at peace, it's Hamas who is softening its rhetoric, expectations and demands.
     
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    What Borat says in post #49 :clapping:
     

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