‘They’re Beating Every White Person’: Riots, Fires After Fatal Shooting Sparks Chaos

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  1. zbr6

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    Sorry new guy I can't link you the entirety of the Internet.

    But if you want to educate yourself you just need to head over to social media (not Google or any news outlet) and plug in variations on any keyword that has to do with racism, whites, killing whites, beating whites, killing cops, shooting cops, death to whitey, black power, cracker, dindu, etc, etc.

    Then do link hopping which is following one relevant thing after another and you'll see that social media is endlessly filled with radical openly anti-white racism.
     
  2. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good god, how is is possible you are this uninformed? There you have it folks....behold the Clinton voter hasn't seen this. I know...shocker!
    [video=youtube;uCKZNJzz1Ec]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCKZNJzz1Ec[/video]
     
  3. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On the bright side, if these white people were leftists, they'll be voting for trump in November.....assuming they heal up by then.
     
  4. GrayMatter

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    Sir, you made a conclusion about reality based on your observations on social media. You state the attitude of Blacks being able to assault Whites is 'extremely common.' It is an interesting statement, and that's why I was keen on the evidence.

    You present the evidence as 'hundreds of thousands of [pieces of social media information].' You don't present a link to raw data. You don't present a link to a data analysis. You don't present a link to any sort of probability applied to the data analysis. These are steps anybody would be expected to make before drawing a conclusion for fear of making the wrong conclusion.

    What if the tweets you have seen don't represent the population? Do you care about the truth or do you just want to vent? I too am dismayed by violent racially charged tweets. However, there are 350M Americans in the country. I am not about to make a conclusion about the state of their attitudes based on yours or anyone else's social media observations.

    You might even be right. But to say you are right without the above steps taken to build a real case with the data, then you are wrong for pushing unsubstantiated claims.
     
  5. zbr6

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    Bro this isn't some high court tribunal or doctoral dissertation.

    I don't need to presents charts graphs and a decades long expedition worth of findings.

    This is something that is considered common knowledge.

    The fact that there is ever-growing already high degree of radical Black racism is not new nor is it up for debate therefore I don't need to supply you with anything.

    You're essentially asking me for empirical evidence to prove that the sun is hot and is in space.

    Also I cant link you the entirety of social media, that's an absurd request, social media is fking huge and the hops you make between one to the other are not necessarily the ones other people would make because that's how trend delivery works.

    I did however give you the exact tools you need to do your own social media browsing so if you want to see the vile racism for yourself you now know how, but that's up to you.

    Oh and one other thing...

    You're new here but this little self-reinforcing circular denial of reality you're playing right now isn't.

    All who post here know the liberal game when it comes to denying common knowledge.

    -Demand a "source" for something that's common knowledge.
    -Nit pick that source because its not part of liberal media, as if liberal media would report on this sort of thing anyway.
    -Nit pick the details of the facts at hand focus on any inconsequential element; ie "oh this occurred 5 days ago its not valid anymore" (ya that happens here).
    -Find a way, somehow, to irrelevantly invoke Trump Bush or some other Republican.
    -Then when all else fails just ignore it all together and stroll off into the sunset screaming racist.
     
  6. Evangelical357

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    What a post.

    America invaded Iraq. Therefore the deaths are on the cause of the terrorism and insurgents. To blame the terrorists for invading a country we broke is propagandist horse(*)(*)(*)(*). You should be ashamed of your propagandizing.
     
  7. GrayMatter

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    What if you wanted to prove to anyone else in the world that there is a 'growing degree of radical Black racism' in the US...are they supposed to take your word for it?

    You say it is common knowledge. Does a statement become truer with the more people that believe it?

    You started with a hypothesis...why not test it? If it is true, then the data should readily support you and it should be easy to prove. You could be right, you could be wrong...but the point is if you are going to make a claim like this, why not prove it too?

    I think people are getting ensnared in race bait traps: Black people and White people. Black people are falling for the narrative that police and 'the system' are out to get them. The last handful of Black men that were shot by police were killed due to self defense by the police officer as seen with Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. The media stoked those fires with 24/7 coverage paying special attention to the bad seeds in the crowds. All one has to do is look at the numbers to disprove this myth of White cops hunting Black men. There are 38M Black people in the US. Police killed a total of 1,200 people in 2015. At most, 582 of those people were Black. No way to determine how many were unjustified, let's say all just for sake of argument (although it must be less than all)...that's barely one tenth of a percent of the population. If you are Black in this country, the probability of getting shot and killed by a police officer is minuscule.

    Because some Black people don't bother to look at the numbers, they may be influenced by the media and even participate in some of the rhetoric you saw on your social media timeline.

    For you, since you yourself have not bothered to look at the numbers. You fall prey to the same type of conclusion. You see a few (maybe a lot in your opinion but how do you know what a lot is if you don't have data?) of social media posts about a Black racist movement. Since you do not compare the number of observations you have seen to the population you have no idea how many people really harbor those beliefs. Have you also searched for tweets about racial harmony? Christianity? brotherhood? neighbors? good deeds? Thankfulness? If so, do these tweets measure in the hundreds of thousands? Perhaps they would measure in the millions? What about tweets about people giving to the poor...volunteering...hugging...holding hands...getting promoted at work...and the endless other positive things that happen in individuals' lives and interactions between the races.

    Switching gears for a second...
    What if we took your statement of hundreds of thousands of social media posts as fact. Mentioned earlier there are 38M Black people in the US. How much social media content do Black people create? Millions of data points a day? Maybe billions? Suddenly hundreds of thousands could look pretty small. It's similar to the bit on police supposedly slaughtering Black people. It's easy to walk away with a misunderstanding of reality if you don't check your hypothesis. You could be confusing a fractional minority with the majority.

    What if the vast majority of Black people that are not racist don't make their non-racist thoughts known? What if the majority of Black people live in a world where they don't think it is necessary to articulate their non racist thoughts because the very idea of racism is absurd to them...

    You would suffer from an absence of data in your calculation which would make your conclusion even worse.

    Now, you may hold on to your belief about Black people becoming racist. But you won't be holding on to the truth until you prove it.

    On a side note, what makes you think I am liberal?
     
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    That is so trite that it's obvious I've wrong-footed you. Even the title of the documentary was based on 'NYPD murderers', so you're out of step here, mate, not me! I wouldn't mind the feeble attempt at humour, if that's what it is, if only you'd got the 'your' right. :roll:
     
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    Oh thanks! Shame on me that I can sit and watch a man being murdered and not realise it was only a set-up by the BBC. :thumbsup: ( :wall: :wall: )
     
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    heh, so what was the excuse of racism against blacks in the past? "black crime" still?

    It's not a matter of stereotypes. It's a matter of conservatives constantly bashing blacks as a collective group by calling them everything from apes, to savages, genetically inferior, and talking about "sending them back to Africa". The notion itself of sending back American citizens to a country they aren't even from is laughable, but that's the right for you. A bunch of irrational morons.



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    lmao, what blacks are claiming there is a race war? You think your average black working citizen believes there is a race war?? Some militant idiots maybe, and they are just as idiotic as your militant right wingers are.
     
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    1. Not a Clinton Voter
    2. Did not see anyone in that video being beaten and dragged. Any names of victims, picture of victims, ANYTHING? Surely if there was tons of white people being beaten and dragged from cars there would be something other than something said on a video. Not saying it didn't happen, just VERY surprised there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of proof of this supposed massive beating of many whites during the riots. If there was people attacked, I hope they make a full recovery, and that the attackers get arrested and charged with assault/battery.

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    So you are stating that if a white person gets beaten up by someone black...they'll vote for Trump?

    What if a white person gets beaten up by someone white? Will they also go and vote for the orange idiot?
     
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    I agree, ghetto violent trash of all races suck. And these rioters rioting over nothing are losers to society, but not because they are black. They are losers because of their actions.
     
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    Did I see anyone getting beaten? Good god man, YES. ....watch the video again until it stops. I can see why you are so uninformed. You dont pay attention.
    Not a clinton supporter ....also hilarious. Now watch the video again that you thought I couldnt provide. You could also turn off leftist media and see and hear it discussed just about anywhere else. Arent you curious as to why you were unaware of this?
    If the roles were reversed and it was white on black violence, what would your reaction be?
     
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    Guilt is the wrong word I think. I feel guilty when I personally wrong someone. I feel sickened when I think about what my ancestors have done. Possibly that is a symptom of guilt but I have never explored that so really couldn't say for sure. Those less enlightened are not guilty either they have been brainwashed since birth to trust the schools and TV as if it was the word of God him/herself. The only guilt they will bare is that they were naive. Unless of course they killed someone for a pair of air Jordan's 20 years ago, or have fought in any of the last 4 wars. As for trying to make right the perceived wrongs. I on a personal level can really only acknowledge that they exist and it was wrong. Other than that I can't grant titles or charters to the ancestors of those wronged. I am currently paying for King George's ships and all he was entitled to for funding the ventures to the new world. Through property and income taxes. Although I do believe his ancestors have been paid back in ten fold by now. Guess that's what happens when you steal from the crown. They send the east indies trading company to rule your country by proxy through the Treasurer. East indies trading company is now the IMF but still owned by the same family.
     
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    1. Show me when I ever stated I supported Clinton. She sucks. Trump also sucks.

    2. I watched the video, and saw no evidence of any white people being pulled out and beaten. Like I said, if it did happen, it would have been all over every conservative blog/website out there, and all over FOX.
     
  17. AlphaOmega

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    it was. You are officially denying facts. Fascinating. Care to comment on the call to attack whites that you also saw in the video? Oh wait you probably unsaw that as well.
     
  18. GrayMatter

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    You and the original poster are letting the media pull one over on you. You are taking the actions of how many people to draw conclusions about a population of 38M...?

    Do you have a survey? Some sort of poll? Do you have any data to support your claim that Black people are rapidly becoming racist?

    Have you considered that the media selects the most exciting and inciteful activity to report on...because...it generates the highest ratings? If Fox news or CNN went to my job and covered the Black people there interacting with White people harmoniously, they would run out of business. Do you not factor in the media's bias to create profitable content as a source for making your judgments? If not, do you think that is worth consideration?
     
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    Dont need a poll. We have video footage from across the nation....daily.
     
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    We rarely see people defend their positions with statistics because they rarely have them. The result is people tout whatever they want finding security in not having to prove anything. As a result, tons of misinformation.

    You could prove your point. However, you don't put forth the effort because you either don't know how to find the supporting data, you are afraid of being wrong, or it's just not important enough for you to bother. Talk is cheap and speech is free...can we really be surprised by how worthless it is then? I would give credence to and analyze any data-set with you. Just give me something.
     
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    Sure, give us the % of black people who voted for Obama. We can start there using your stats.
     
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    And the bigots come out of the woodwork.
     
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    What are these statistics you want again? Are you looking for some poll on how racist people are?
     
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    I think there are a couple points here, one brought up by AlphaOmega and the other by original poster:

    1. How many racist Black people are there
    2. How has Black racism increased recently

    I am open to any findings. I have a feeling we could find something. But my thought is that something would be a negligible portion of the population of Black people. I just want some sort of dataset to look and we can all break it down.
     
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