‘Climate Idealism Meets The Reality’: Green Energy Failed To Meet Power Demand When It Was Most Need

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    • Green energy accounted for small portions of electricity generation in New England and Texas as the regions narrowly avoided blackouts following winter storms.
    • “People hear so much about renewables and think they are a huge portion of the energy mix when they aren’t, especially not in New England,” Meredith Angwin, author of “Shorting the Grid: The Hidden Fragility of Our Electric Grid,” told the Daily Caller News Foundation..
    • “Fossil fuels are needed to keep us alive and we see this when climate idealism meets the reality of the weather,” Larry Behrens, communications director for Power the Future, a non-profit that advocates for American energy workers, told the DCNF.
    Renewable energy was unable to generate sufficient power to meet elevated energy demand during Christmas Eve snowstorms, forcing utilities in the northeastern U.S. and Texas to burn more fossil fuels to prevent outages.

    Although wind turbines, solar panels and other forms of green energy have been consistently touted by the Biden administration as reliable alternatives to fossil fuels like coal and natural gas, renewables accounted for a small percentage of grids’ power output after snowstorms and a “bomb cyclone” nearly caused power outages in New England and Texas. Grid operators in both areas were forced to burn oil, a fuel that is significantly less efficient than natural gas, to avoid power outages as renewable energy sources were stymied by the harsh weather.…









    read more news: https://dailycaller.com/2022/12/29/...d-energy-demand-across-america-winter-storms/









    The Daily Caller News Foundations energy and environment reporter has an important story here. Extreme weather has exposed the shortcomings of wind and solar energy. They are not adequate to meet our needs and can end up getting people killed or at least miserable without power.
     
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    What is needed more than all else is natural gas. It is very clean burning and is plentiful and inexpensive.
     
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    I don’t know how solar panels and windmills can overcome this because they’d be caked with ice.

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    How strange that the opposite was true in the summer

    It’s almost like a mix of utilities are needed and investment in renewables is beneficial as long as it isn’t rushed.


    "Texas is, by rhetoric, anti-renewables. But frankly, renewables are bailing us out," said Michael Webber, an energy expert and professor at the University of Texas at Austin. "They're rocking. That really spares us a lot of heartache and a lot of money."

    Despite the Texas Republican rhetoric that wind and solar are unreliable, Texas has a massive and growing fleet of renewables. Zero-carbon electricity sources (wind, solar, and nuclear) powered about 38% of the state's power in 2021, rivaling natural gas at 42%. [link]


    Wasn’t the daily caller founded by tucker and listed only as opinion media? Strange to see people cite such places as actual news but I guess opinion is all some can find to match their narrative.
     
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    They can not overcome that nor can batteries store enough energy while they are down. Natural gas is the great back up and primary energy source here
     
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    For most of my life the left was vehemently opposed to nuclear power which resulted in the use of more fossil fuel power.
     
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    You could always not build them at sea level right next to an ocean or lake...

    In fact, you can actually see some wind turbines in the back left distance. Can't tell for sure in the image, but I'm betting the blades(where it matters) don't look like this.
     
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    There is technology to store energy.
     
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    They were/ are the same with hydro power. They even passed a law in Ca mandating clean renewable energy be a certain percentage that way and we’re barred from counting nuclear or hydro toward our number.
     
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    Not enough for an urban area and event like this as I previously said
     
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    Texas, it was not the green energy that failed
     
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    energy diversity is best... if any one fails or is in short supply, others to fall back on

    and trying to blame Biden for Texas failures seems a little bit crazy to me, especially as they choose to do things different than the rest of the country
     
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    Because we didn’t see pictures of the windmill blades dripping icicles off of them, their turbines frozen solid…
     
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    You mean like having more solar panels and windmills than anyone else. That was their big mistake.
     
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    so why did they not address this already? Other States winterize their stuff

     
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    two years in a row republicans had issues in Texas with energy, when will they weatherize?
     
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    more un-weatherized equipment, oil, solar, windmills - and houses

    then they whine and blame others
     

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