‘Squad’ member Tlaib votes ‘present’ on resolution condemning sexual violence by Hamas as weapon of

Do you actually have a single thing to say about her refusing to condemn the sexual exploitation practice by Hamas?

 

Let me see if I understand: You’re asking me about not commenting on someone else not commenting?

Isn’t that a quadruple negative ?

 

You're all up in this thread talking about everything but the topic. I wonder what conclusion that could lead a rational observer to come up with?

 

She did comment, she made a protest vote. She didn't have to vote at all. She chose to make a stand against everyone in the House voting to condemn these actions, and then she issued a public statement on why she refuses to condemn Hamas terrorists raping Israeli women. Again, she didn't have to do anything at all. She could have stayed in her office. Instead, she walked her butt down the House floor and protested the bill and then issued a public statement on why she felt it was appropriate to refuse to condemn terrorists raping Israelis.

 

What the hell difference does it make that she walks to the House floor? its something she is paid to do and does all the time, not an act of courage for which she gets credit. A vote of 'present' is completely meaningless, not some brave act of protest. Politicians make public statements all the time explaining what they do, she is just making a public statement about what she did not do. the representatives who do not go to the chamber and vote present, are at least not engaging in performative politics in the well of the House. I would just as soon she stay in her office, instead of trying to turn her refusal do her job into an oportunistic act of theater.

 

Did you read the post I was responding to? This isn’t complicated. @fullmetaljack falsely claimed she didn’t comment on the issue. She did. They call the roll alphabetically. She watched everyone excitedly get on the record condemning Hamas and when it got to her turn and she was asked how she would respond, she said, “present.” Then she made a public statement about why she voted that way and refused to condemn Hamas raping Israelis.

Look, I get people don’t like Israel or want to support Hamas/Palestinians. But, it’s important to be honest about what is happened. She didn’t “not comment” on Hamas raping Israelis. She was asked whether she supported an amendment and she vocalized, “I’m here, but I refuse to answer you.” Then she made a public statement. If she wanted to not comment she could have stayed in her office or remained silent when they called her name. But, she wanted to protest the bill as evidenced by her public statement. She effectively said she won’t condemn Hamas terrorists’ sexual violence against Israelis in their recent invasion because of a made up reason that she has provided no evidence for. In the case of Israel, they have first hand witnesses, they have medical examiner statements, they have statements from released prisoners, etc. Tlaib has nothing but excuses.

 

And it seems as though the Democrats here have nothing but excuses for her.

I have not read the thread all the way through but I have not seen one condemnation from any of them

 

just like Republicans that would not vote against "torture" of POWs, Taib should of voted to condemn this

 

But what about... But what about...

 

What do you disagree with there, exactly?

there was no what about, I condemned both and gave an example of how bad I thought it was, that should help BOTH sides see it's bad

so do you condemn both?

 

That's a wild conspiracy theory you got there bro

 

Found another sympathizer....

 

Not being familiar with the details and not going to take your brief summation of it.... Maybe there's another thread about that that you can go and mention me in?

This one has absolutely nothing to do with that.

 

this one is the exact same as what Republican did then, they are comparable events, thus compared

 

I have no desire to help you derail this thread.
Goodbye now.

 

only one trying to derail the thread is you

 

shameless.... Do you think people can't read?

 

seems you think they can't read, as all you been doing since my post is trying to derail the tread.... talk about shameless

Goodbye now.

 

Sympathiser of innocent women and children yes.

I am pro Israel, what do you stand for, America the Warmonger ?

Smh.

 

Rape is not an accepted act of war, I doubt even these terrorist groups train in that method of fighting. One can condemn rape without supporting the group whose women are being subjected to that indignity.

 

She is on the side of those who did the sneak attack on Israel and started it all. It would be like taking the side of the Japanese after Pearl Harbor.

 

No man, I understand perfectly well. The issue is they're full of ****. The reason the rape doesn't matter is because murder is a bigger deal. And that's it. Rape wasn't some kind of terror or political strategy. If it were, it wouldn't be being downplayed by those who did it.

I cited what she said, I don't care at all if the Israelis are doing it because the Israelis are already killing civilians so it's less of a big deal than what we already know. Orders of magnitude. Murder is hundreds of times worse than rape. Rape is hundreds of times worse than calling somebody names. If rape were the crime I wouldn't be worried about whether somebody was verbally insulted for the same reason.

 

Sure, they're vile. The only real significance of the rape is actually that it was a component of torture. Not only were these people killed, but they were tortured and killed. If the condemnation was about how these people were brutally killed, that's fine. It's a bit worse than just being killed. But the main point is still the murder.

But regardless of how terrible these crimes are, it doesn't justify Israeli carelessness (at best) for civilians in gaza.

 

The issue was they were being imperialists taking over other countries to become more powerful. That's why they were the bad guys, not Pearl Harbor. Though Japan would point to the fact that Britain and America had acted similarly in the past to advance their interests.

Pearl harbor itself wasn't an "evil" action. Just a stupid action because they completely misunderstood their enemy. We knew an attack was imminent. The surprise was the location of the attack. The "day of infamy" thing was just BS, but served the purpose of galvanizing and motivating Americans to fight who had previously been trying to stay out of wars.

 

Israel is not the one being careless. There was no occupation in gaza prior to the terrorist attack. It is the Palestinian leadership that puts woman an children in harms way.