‘Tired of being afraid’: Hundreds of thousands decry guns

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  1. PT78

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    Lol...'damaged culture'.

    In other words, make 'white', Christian, males dominant again and everything will just be rosy (whether you agree or not - that is clearly what you meant).

    Well, I am a 'white', (born) Christian male and the ABSOLUTE LAST thing America needs is to have my type dominate again.

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    Yeah...the reason why the Vegas shooter killed so many people, so easily is because of 'cultural decay'.

    Suuuuuure...that's the reason.

    :roll:

    Do you people hear yourselves? You should, because you NRA-types are sounding more and more ridiculous on this subject...as you are fast running out of excuses.
     
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    The kids are the ones pulling the trigger on other kids.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't know what his religion was, and the reason he was successful is:

    1. He was a millionaire
    2. He had no known criminal record

    He could have just as easily crashed an airplane into the crowd since he was a pilot.
     
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    I just can't take most hyper anti-gun people seriously because they don't know anything about what they are talking about.

    There are some things we could do that almost everyone agrees on, but they go too far over the top and propose laws that would never be passed or accepted to the point where it almost looks like they don't want any actual laws passed.

    Guns are not going to be banned in the US, it's just not going to happen.
     
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    Exactly, when I debate people about this I ask them why gun violence is lower than it has been in 30 years.

    If you try to ask them why all the sudden mass shootings from young people in schools have become popular at the same time with social media and regular media sensationalizing it has happened, they basically ignore the argument.

    Gun ownership is higher than ever and gun homicides are lower than ever. The real question is, why the mass shootings from young kids? I don't see any law you can put into action that will stop this, everything other than "taking away everyone's guns" seems like nothing but a feel good law.

    I guess we'll see.
     
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    Well I can agree with you when you point it out like that. Belgrade however is a larger city and you would probably never encounter someone with an gun let alone an automatic assault rifle. In rural areas it's normal to have a gun in the family, although they are not used, just kept safe if needed. I guess it's something that has become a tradition since the Turks invaded us.
     
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    “Hundreds of thousands”

    Out of 400,000,000.

    Big deal? That’s a 1:1000 ratio.
     
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    Once again you fail at statistics. He said guns per household, not guns per capita. About 1/3 of households have a gun.
     
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    The march was supposed to be 800,000 people. Only 200,000 showed up.
     
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    delete
     
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    Yep more firearm suicides. More murders and more mass shootings
     
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    And the only reason it's that high is because of the huge explosion in single mother households.
     
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    How do you know? And every time there is a mass shooting and people start talking gun control the gullible gun nuts rush to either donate more to the nra ila or they buy more guns or both

    The nra directly profits from mass shooting
     
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    How do I know? It's the law. If you have proof that the NRA is breaking the law by all means contact the proper officials. The left profits more since they 'never let a good crisis go to waste'.
    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel

    Why is someone from down under so concerned about US gun laws? Are you in some organization trying to bring AU type gun control to the US?
     
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    Some murders relate to money, of course. But not mass shootings. They are about mental health.
     
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    What excuses? You think the guns in your image shot by themselves?
     
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    Gun control began in 1968. Prior to that, a teenager could order a firearm by mail order. I know because I was there. There were no school shootings then. None. There was no teenage suicide either. But there was no internet either and we still committed people like these shooters to mental institutions. Parenting was better. People didn't isolate themselves from one another. Sorry, it is observation from a long life. No technicalities. Our culture has gone down the toilet.
     
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    There were school shootings throughout the history of the US and the first national law was signed in the 1930's. Before that the states always had gun laws on the books. The 1900's brought in very cheap handguns and rifles and handguns seem to have improved greatly since the 1950's.

    The "mass" shootings seem to have started around the 60's as a result. I don't believe parents are any worse than back then.
     
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    Strange that I didn't hear about school shootings back then. Also strange that I used to buy guns legally by mail order as a teenager. I believe parents were better back then. They engaged more in discipline when it was indicated.
     
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    Then America was still a conservative Christian nation

    Now it is liberal and much more strongly athiest

    education was taken over by hippies and former terrorists

    And they began churning out good little liberals from the public schools

    With a few new flaws

    Now school shootings and mass killings are common
     
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    I don't know what the numbers are about religious affiliation. I do know that morality was valued more in the 1950's/60's than it is now. If I had a solution, I would offer it. I don't. Our culture seems to be in a tailspin. I'm nearing the end of life. My only comment is that I wish I had been in the prior generation to mine. If I were a member of the current generation I would look for another place to live.
     
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    If you didn't read a national newspaper or skipped that section in the local one, you wouldn't have. It was easier to live without hearing about such things back then.
     
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    I kind of believe that the kids here are pretty idealistic, and yet, not exactly pragmatic in any measurable way. In their hostility towards things that actually protect folks, they lash back on the idea of actually being controlled (ie the backpack issue) and yet, they fear the thing that provides the security of their daily lives and what? Expect that only civilian authority (which frankly screwed the pooch here) were literally the folks who could have shut down both the shooter, the process for putting the shooter into appropriate care, mental health screening, etc. And the result? Demonstrations.

    Against what? The one thing that had the least to do with their situation that one could find. Why aren't the kids demonstrating against the failure that is their local school board for introducing the measure that ensured the crazy kid wasn't expelled, or jailed? Where is their derision for their own police force who frankly enabled the extent of the shooting by not allowing the RSO to respond when it was necessary?

    All of these would be likely targets for demonstrations, and yet, what do we get instead? Demonstrations about how fear must be assuaged by the absence of the one thing that would have actually made a difference to their real security. Guns.

    I know, kids are just kids. So, why give them the authority that they seem to both misuse and unabashedly confuse with their own absence of actual practical experience in the world? In this tiny incubator of socialist malcontent in FL, the rational thing may just be to ignore them.
     
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    These kids are just being used to advance the liberal agenda
     
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