‘We know who he is’: Donald Trump continues to target officer who shot Ashli Babbitt

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Yes. He is a very destructive person. He'd rather burn the place down than do anything to unify us.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    She was just a protestor there and this was a homicide. Why the cover up? Youvhave addressed nothing I said.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    There were officers ON HER SIDE OF THE DOOR. How many pulled their weapons and shot her?
     
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    She was breaking the law and endangering law enforcement officers who were standing their ground. If Trump had asked his supporters to leave the building as soon as he became aware of the break-in, she most likely would have left before she was shot. He didn't...and didn't call for them to leave the building until 4:15 PM, two hours after he was informed of the break-in and a little more than an hour after she was shot.
     
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    Watch the video. The officers on her side of the door left to allow more reinforcements to come in from the same side. It was at that point, she went in through the window that had just been broken.
     
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    No I didn't. That wasn't an insurrection. That was an agressive invasion by the North.
     
  7. stone6

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    No...it was a rebellion. The first shots were fired by Confederate forces at Fort Sumter, in Charleston Harbor.
     
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    Fort Sumter was confederate land, and was invaded and sieged by the North.
     
  9. stone6

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    Sorry...it was a federal fort. If the South had wanted to secede, it should have called for a new Constitutional Convention and dissolved the Union.
     
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    They were RIGHT THERE with her for several minutes, there were RIGHT THERE as she tried to go through the broken window, there were RIGHT THERE when she was shot and not one of them raised a weapon or tried to stop her. All they had to do was grab her arm and put her under arrest, put hand cuffs on her they could even have TASED her. THEY were in the best position to judge the threat she was posing.

    Where are their interviews with investigators?
     
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    It was disputed land in the middle of the waters of the State of South Carolina of the Confederate States of America and unoccupied as the disposition was being negotiated between the two parties. The Union decided, without warning, to man it and reinforce it for the purpose of a blockade of the port. That was an act of war. If the South wanted to secede they had to notify the Union they wanted to and had done so which they did.
     
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    The first act of war was by the Union by moving forces there and reinforcing and arming it.
     
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    No...they were not. The people with her were rioters dressed in tactical combat clothing. When the tactical law enforcement people pulled away, the rioters surged forward and broke the window she went through.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    And officers right there next to here did not shoot her, Trump was not there stop trying to divert to him, you're mostly likely is nothing but self-serving speculation. Had the officer who shot had merely restrained himself like the other officers she would be alive, had the officers on her side stopped her she would be alive, had the officers on her said told her don't go in there force will be used she would be alive, had the CP done their job and kept the people out she would be alive, had the leaders of Congress accepted the help that was offered to them she would be alive, I can go on and on with shoulda coulda woulda's.

    The fact remains that the office who was NOT in the best position to judge the thread used lethal force against an unarmed person who had given no reason to believe she was carrying a weapon and the officers who were in the best position to judge whatever threat was present did not raise their weapons, did not judge the situation required lethal force. Why not?
     
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  15. Bluesguy

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    We are having another circus in the House which it's only objective is to attack Trump and the right. This homicide was not even mentioned while one officers called all Trump supporters white supremist and the chair lied about the deaths of several officers to which deaths there is NO evidence that 9/11 had anything to do with them.

    Link me to the records of this homicide, the interviews with all involved I'd love to read them.
     
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    South Carolina had ceded the island to the federal government years earlier...as well as other forts in the vicinity. The commander on the scene moved forces from other forts to Sumter for tactical reasons. In demanding the surrender of the fort, the South Carolinians referenced the threat of the fort to Charleston, but never claimed ownership, until it became the "spoils of war." Secession would have required a Constitutional amendment...none was ever sought.
     
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    There was surge they were right there, the CP was right there, the SWAT was right behind them and had been there. No one raised a gun against her, no one tried to stop her. The CP is perfectly capable of doing so, it's THEIR job. The guy who shot was CP.

    Where are all the interviews with those who were there? Who authorized the use of lethal force against the protestors? What imminent threat of killing someone did the officer perceive. Why did not a single other officer there that day fire their weapon?
     
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    And, had more officers done so, there would have been no illegal entry into the Capitol Building.
     
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    The officers who were on her side of the door, didn't shoot her because she hadn't broken in at that point. It was only after they left that the window was smashed and she crawled through it.
     
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    It was a "Good Shoot". Period!
     
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    Sad...but true. I hold Trump responsible.
     
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    I have a question. Who is the "we" Trump is referring to?
     
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    You think the shooting of her was a conspiracy or the coverup of the failure of CP a conspiracy I don't follow.
     
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    Donald T****, John Miller and David Dennison.... It's rare all 3 of them can agree on anything, but they seem to agree on this.....

    Off topic, isn't this your neck of the woods??

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-80-nevada-students-may-132651112.html

    It's one thing to bitch about masking in schools when you are vaccinated and/or negative tested (and I would still disagree with them), but this is completely irresponsible.... I hope somebody takes some action here...
     
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    Thanks, and thanks. I should keep up on local news but I don't. Keep reminding me until I do. Lol. No, please.

    I'm smh. Looks deliberate to me. I'm not aware of any penalties, but there should be some repercussions, including expulsion.
     

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