‘You have to call it by name’: Merkel publicly admits ‘no-go areas’ in Germany

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    No correct, the police does go to Duisburg Marxloh and they do not need special forces. It's a socially deprived and poor area with roughly 54% of the population being non-German and certainly not a pleasant area to live in; I wouldn't want to live there.
    If a 'no-go area' is an area where the police would not set foot in, then they don't exist. The police goes to Marxloh as well as Berlin-Neukölln (another area that's sometimes mentioned in this context). As ridiculous as this thread is, I think keeping to the facts doesn't really hurt.
    Btw, in April 2017 - almost a year ago - Merkel claimed that there were 'no go areas' in the state of North Rhine Westfalia and, of course, the local social-democratic/green government was to blame. But I'm sure our experts here knew that already.
    Interesting interview (in German).
    https://www.focus.de/politik/deutsc...-was-haette-passieren-koennen_id_7108331.html
     
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    Another ANCIENT Picture (that surfaced AGES Ago) that the Unimaginative Trolls (of the RW BS Factory) trot out whenever they have nothing of substance to offer the discussion.

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    Their eyes are wide shut. Don't kid yourself. Their egos will not allow them to be wrong.
     
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    Yeah, we've been seeing whiffs of that strawman. Not saying you're doing any strawmanning yourself, but noone has suggested that no-gos are areas where police won't go, although obviously any area where the police actually won't go are the worst of the worst no-gos.

    I think most people would take a "no go" area as basically being a crime-infested shithole that people generally avoid like the plague. I would think that's what Merkel had in mind.
     
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    How is beating up and forcing refugees out of your village protecting anyone. Those refugees had committed no crimes and were no threat. Being non-German is not a crime
     
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    Then that is not the definition of a no-go area. It's basic common sense not to go into areas that are suspected of being unsafe and they exist in every country in the world
     
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    That's my own definition, but I suspect it approximates to what Merkel was thinking when she spoke about "no areas where none dares go". Not literally no single person, but extremely bad areas where only the seriously unlucky end up.
     
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    That's why I said 'if', has absolutely nothing to do with strawman. You're offering your own personal definition of the term in question and your interpretation of what you think Merkel had in mind. That doesn't exactly make it factual.
    I also replied to another posting in which it was claimed that police doesn't go to Duisburg-Marxloh, which is definitely false as can be seen in the link I posted (sorry, tis German, won't help you a lot). Parts of Marxloh have been a **** area for at least two decades when steel production stopped, thousands lost their jobs, well-educated moved away, poor people moved in and in the '80s Lebanese clans started moving there too. Marxloh being a **** place has not really a lot to do with the so-called refugee crisis of late 2015/early 2016.
    I live in Germany, this thread is giving me a real headache.
     
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    They hurt my people. Money wasted on them is money that cant be used for our own. Where they are, crime rises, they dont belong here. We have a right to defend our homelands against invasion of 3rd worlders.
     
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    Is Angela Merkel a "goose stepper" now to you?
     
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    The 'right wing' they often refer to is actually the middle. In fact 'right wing has come to describe anyone who simply rejects leftist ideological policies, or even government policies -as we see most noticeably in Europe. Any leader who doesn't support governmental immigration policies is labelled 'extreme right wing' , and thus a threat to civilized society, particularly when the term is also usd to describe 'racists', 'sexists', 'fascists' and so on. It's a term used to end conversation and debate, and the go-to taunt for those who don't have the intellectual skills to discuss issues on a deeper level. BLM and Antifa are other examples of this trend.
     
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    no she isn't. I believe you know exactly who I am referring to.
     
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    I looked it up. apparently this is a source article for "no go zone" but it actually doesn't say that. Or is this yet another bad translation?

    https://www.focus.de/politik/deutsc...-was-haette-passieren-koennen_id_7108331.html
     
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    You think Communists weren't "Conservative"? You're locked in terms which don't reflect reality. In fact you'll notice that the more left society grows the more conservative they become. You must know that Communists were 'Left wing' while Ronald Reagan was 'extreme right wing'
     
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    I don't actually. I do know Merkel admitted Germany has lawless zones that didn't exist before a million or more Middle Eastern refugees were taken into Germany.
     
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    Dont call them refugees.
     
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    Are you saying that lawless zones did not exist before refugees entered Germany?
     
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    Your using Conservative in its traditional sense, which most people do, and that means you support traditional values within societal limits, free speech, free movement, personal responsibility, and the Constitution which has served the country well. Conservatism when it's used by Communist, Fascists, etc. means just the opposite. "Liberal" has undergone the same changes because, as we have seen, it is the liberals who want to restrict, for example, free speech..
     
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    We have a massive raise in crime since 2015. Not in eastern Germany though, where we dont allow that in.
     
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    In the initial stages the immigrants will be called harmless and not a threat to anyone, as the illegals were here.

    Than, as time goes by, their presence will be protected and any attempts to complain about law breaking or the drain they are on finite resources will be treated as hate crimes (if they are not already).

    And finally their customs, language, religion, culture will be called equal to or greater than that of native citizens and you will eventually become the outsider in your own land.
     
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    And that's an acknowledged plan going back decades. In fact Muammar Gaddafi described it well. How could leaders like Obama and Merkel, among many others, not be aware of this?

     
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    Are you familiar with the crime rate among these Muslim 'refugees'?
     

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