“Gas Run Has Begun” – Fuel Stations Run Dry Amid Hacked Pipeline.

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    You should believe that voting machines are way more secure from hackers than the computers that run our fuel pipelines. ;-)
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do find the logical fallacies fascinating. To support the America First agenda is somehow being a Trump worshiping sheep. What does that make you: A Biden worshiping sheep?
     
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  3. Darth Gravus

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    But it is not their error, it is yours...according to you.
     
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    No, you have to be a Trump worshiping sheep to think that Trump was America First

    I do not support Biden nor his agenda. I did not vote for Biden. I do not live in one of the two sheep pens.
     
  5. Pycckia

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    Well, this is pointless and must be boring for our readers.

    I am reminded of a joke I heard from out discussion.

    A co-worker of mine and one of the smartest people I ever met was in the Air Force and did weather forecasting for spy planes. He, for some reason, despised economists.

    So I asked him "Why do weathermen love economists?" As expected he started fuming about economists.

    I said, "No, no. Economists make weathermen look good,"
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    It is caused by a pre existing predjudice against Trump so that almost anyone who defends Trump against even the most egregious calumnies automatically becomes in their mind a Trump lickspittle without any regard whatever to the truth of their defense.
     
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    Actually according to Pycckia, it is caused by his own words. Who am I to aruge with him?
     
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    The point would be sir that the preexisting prefudice is why his words have that effect...
     
  9. Pycckia

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    And your prejudice that anyone defending Trump against numerous lies and calumnies is not only s mindless partisan but a lick-spittle.
     
  10. Monash

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    Thank you for providing an excellent example that proves my point!

    When I said that the European powers had 'no conception of what a Global war would actually look like, how damaging it would be or how long it would take to resolve' I meant it.

    Germany's Schlieffen Plan was predicated on the supposition that France would be defeated in about 6 weeks! Nuf said.

    France's Plan XV11 didn't contain any campaign details at all! It just detailed a general mobilization and called for an 'all out infantry offensive' along the closest points of their mutual border with Germany 'as soon as possible'. And this despite knowing before the war even started that their supplies of artillery ammunition were insufficient even by pre-war standards.

    Austria had 6 Plans! Italy (Case I), Russia (Case R), Serbia (Case B) or Russia and Serbia (Case R+B) PLUS plans for fighting Montenegro or Romania. All designed with the expectation that the Empire would never have to implement all 6 at once. This was 'convenient' of curse because it also lacked the military power or railway transport grid needed to support all 6 plans at once. (Which of course is exactly what ended up needing to do.) And again it had insufficient reserves for artillery ammunition because like France it was fixated on the expectation that aggressive infantry would lead to a short and victorious war. Again it knew going in it had insufficient artillery ammunition for a long war (Again based on pre-WW1 standards) but they expected a short war.

    I won't detail Russia plans other than to say they were predicated on the war being a short one (about the only point on which all sides were in agreement) and note that due to bureaucratic inertia Russia only commenced implementing a 4 year plan designed train, equip and organize its Army for the anticipated war in June 1914! Once war commended the plan was implemented much more quickly but Russia still didn't mange to meet the the expected benchmarks until 1916! (Better late than never I suppose.)

    Britain's plan for WW1 for obvious reasons concentrated on maintaining naval supremacy in the Atlantic. In this it was largely successful. Prior to 1910 however its (relatively) small army was largely organized and trained for fighting colonial wars not campaigns in mainland Europe. After that period planning focused on deploying the BEF from Holland to 'support' the French Army in northern France. Again planning (in tandem with the French) anticipated the war being of short duration hence shortages of critical war materials soon became apparent.

    The one thing they had in common? All these plans were based on flawed preconceptions - largely based on lessons learnt in the last major European war a generation ago. But then again that was the the only template they had, to judge them otherwise is to use hindsight.

    Dominant world powers are always trying to redraw the World map. Its what they do. What was Bush doing when he lead the US and its coalition partners into Iraq but trying to 'redraw the map' of the Middle East? What is China trying to do with Taiwan and the South China Sea but 'redraw the map' to suit its own geopolitical ambitions.

    In summery writing off everyone involved in the planning and conduct of WW1 as 'stupid' is a gross misinterpretation of history. Worse assuming foreign leaders and military planners are 'stupid' is the one sure way of guaranteeing that your own plans (whatever they are) will fail.

    Lastly I suggest starting a new thread if you want to continue this discussion.
     
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  11. Zorro

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    "Half" Whitmer Can’t Hurt Michigan Enough, Threatens to Close Another Pipeline.

    Gee, if the intelligence agencies aren't asleep at the switch, Joe is canceling pipelines while Dim Whitmer shuts them down.

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    Dems hate economic grow and low energy prices. When Americans are happy with rising incomes and living standards, Dems have difficulty stoking division and they don't like that.

    On Biden The Usurper's first day in office he cancelled the Keystone XL pipeline and gas prices went up. Then while the FBI was chasing Rudy rather than minding the store, a foreign group calling itself DarkSide hacked the Colonial pipeline, responsible for bringing 45% of fuel for the east coast, last week and prices went up. Now Michigan’s Dem. Governor Whitmer, (Hitmer to many), brilliantly threatened to close down a Canadian pipeline, owned by the Enbridge company, that runs through Michigan’s Straits of Mackinac, (pronounced Mack-in-awe).
    How come none of the sensible Democrats hold high visibility offices.
     

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