“TRUMP ASKED US TO GO HOME”; Video Re-Surfaces Of Jacob Chansley Urging Peace

You haven't discussed it with me when I was discussing it and that's the point. I'm not going down all your other roads. Already told you this. Discussion between us over.

 

So what another guy plead guilty to the same charge.
How many in history have plead guilty to 1st degree murder? Did they all receive the same sentence? NO!!

Each case is judged on its own merits. That's why all crimes have a min and max sentence.

Did the other guy leave a note behind threatening the VP of the USA?
Was he one of the 1st 30 trespassing in the Capitol?
Did he argue for 30 minutes with the police?
How long was Chansely tresspassing? How long did the other guy?
Did they have the same judges? There are lenient judges and harsh judges.
There's literally hundreds of reasons sentences are different between 2 people who commit and plead guilty to the same crime.

There's an appeal process. What appeal steps have been taken?

 

John Sullivan plus the antifa instigators who were on video changing clothes right before the 2 hour flagstick “insurrection”.

But you ignore the question of why Epps and Sullivan were not put in jail with no bail and brought to trial where they would have to testify under oath.

 

I have discussed in length period. It is there for you to see. I can't help it if you ignored my posting on what I wrote. that is totally on you,.

 

Conspiracy theory and no evidence to the contrary.

Elmer Stewart Rhodes, Jacob Chansley, and a whole bunch of others, including those that MTG supports, are not antifa. That has been debunked time and time again.

 

What evidence was withheld?

 

Those are completely false statements. No one has show any antifa member there. BTW - who is the leader of antifa?

Now, do you have any other points to make that are not conspiracy theories?

 

Again you dodge the question.

 

Antifa was all over DC on Jan 6.

Antifa hax no leader. They are a group of terrorists with a common goal who operate in localized cells which sometimes coordinate.

The capital police initiated the violence by using tear gas and flash bombs on peaceful protestors who lost control of their common sense.

Who is Steven D’Antuono? Why was he moved from Michigan to Washington, D.C.?

 

A typically good opinion.
But opinion's don't matter much in court cases.

 

There was no jury. There was a plea deal and a guilty plea.

And even yet today, there's no exculpatory evidence.

 

Look at that evidence.
In the Capitol illegally trespassing.
Congress was obstructed from performing their duty. The very charge he plead guilty to.

Thx for showing the crime.

 

Sure they were. Without evidence all your posting is a conspiracy theory.

A group has no leader. How do they organize?

I have no idea who the person you deflect to is. Was he at J6 and did he over run the police?

If you don't back up your claims with some proof, all you have is conspiracy theories.

 

Didn't dodge the question. Epps turned state's evidence. That is it. John Sullivan was detained and got a deal to be released. In that deal, he is under home arrest with certain conditions until his trial is adjudicated.

None ot that proves they were antifa or BLM, does it.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/01/15/utah-activist-john/

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg...8864/pdf/GPO-J6-TRANSCRIPT-CTRL0000038864.pdf

 

Who wrote that they did? The point that apparently you missed is that Turley's legal expertise goes along way when discussing the discovery process and why it's important not to ignore it if the accused is to have a fair trial/hearing.

 

I understand what he pled to. His plea bargaining dismissed the original case against him. What's your point as it relates to what I wrote above?

Or did you just deflect to have something to say again?

 

“I am not going to claim that I got everything 100% correct in my recollection of the events on January 6th, I did not take notes, I did not take pictures, and I did not make any recordings, but my account is honest and accurate to the best of my memory. I saw hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of peaceful Americans come together to voice a common grievance. I saw a handful of people that seemed interested in violence and agitation. I don’t know who those agitators were affiliated with, whether they were members of a militia group, ANTIFA, or operatives of the federal government–my opinion is all three. I know there was a conspicuous absence of media coverage of the day’s peaceful events. I know there are tens of thousands of hours of unreleased video. I know the protestors were unarmed and peaceful, and were attacked by a Capitol Police force on one side of the building, while being let inside on the other side. I feel the events were orchestrated to complete the steal of an election, to discredit a portion of the population who were aware of the truth, and to justify the government’s strong arm tactics in silencing them.”

— January 6: A Patriot's Story by Nathaniel Matthews
https://a.co/2gBM5Zw

How does AQ communicate?

Look the name. He is the lead guy in the entrapment of the Michigan kidnappers who couldn’t shoot straight and he did the same on January 6.

But again you have no answer on why Epps and Sullivan were never brought to trial. They were instigators and were in the capital but now are in the wind. Why?

 

Why weren’t they brought to trial for instigating both before and during and indeed participating in an insurrection? What state’s evidence did they provide?

Who claimed that Epps was Antifa or blm?

 

No one. Which is why the question isn't pertinent.

 

Seeing how said message that he is referring to was released 4 and a half hours after the assault on the Capitol began, I'm going to go ahead and say that the time of the video was at least 4 and a half hours after the assault on the Capitol began.

 

Not at all, I congratulated you for proving Chansley was guilty of the very crime he plead guilty to.
Hence why I thanked you for the pic.

 

You have legal experience? But just having legal experience? Actual real world legal experience does not necessarily limit a person to just being a lawyer? Not a real clear answer to my question. Until, I get a clear answer… I have decided to think my question has not been answered.
Like I said I have no problem with you making up your own mind.
I’m quite capable of making up my own mind. And I would like that to be respected. I’m not an emotional thinker. We will need to agree to disagree.

 

One is awaiting Trial in Utah. don't know when his court date is, but he is awaiting trial, probably sometime this year. Epps turned state's evidence, which means he is probably getting a "free pass" because he can offer names and other information while at the same time, his participation would get him minimum days in jail at the very worst scenario under a plea deal.

Pro-Trump supporters online claimed Epps was Antifa, not to mention Jacob Chansley, John Sullivan and a few others. John Sullivan is the one who filmed Asley Babbit's shooting. He claimed he was working for Infowars that day as a citizen photojournalist. We know he had ties to proud boys and other pro-Trump organizations. For John Sullivan, it was mainly Rudy Guiliani and John Wohl who made the claim that John Sullivan was Antifa, but they offered no proof. They did this online. We also know John Sullivan was paid $90k for his footage but the government seized that money when he was arrested.

For all the others, it was online, from FB and Twitter to conservative social media outlets like Rumble who made those claims. But the key here is that there is no evidence from any source that claims that Antifa or BLM were there.

 

The riot was practically speaking over after 4 1/2 hours. Four rioters were dead for no good reason.

 

Bravo! Succinct and right to the point. That's what I call taking the bull by the horns!