…”no nation on earth has the power to dictate where the US places its embassies.”

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    You. Your post was cited in my post, and your words were quoted in that quote. The links do not lie.

    Your opinion of her political future is wholly unsupportable.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    More blind, partisan nonsense.
     
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    In bold, an unsupported assumption or mere "hope" so I feel your need.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea what you thought you were responding to; you have my post/s confused with those of someone else.

    But yeah, she's politically dead, and Trump could care less.

    A complete flaming wreck, though the pilot - Trump - is limping away.

    Haley's not so lucky. :(
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    I hope you can find this partisan poster you're confusing me with - good luck!

    Oh!

    Were you thinking of Partizan1?
     
  6. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for making it clear you aren't willing to have an honest discussion - I shan't waste any more time on you.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Trump's good through 2024 if the economy remains strong and no more terrible actions like this Jerusalem thing, so she was looking at 2024 at the EARLIEST, but she can start writing her memoirs now; she's toast.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Maybe contact the admins to see if there's a technical glitch?

    Good luck in figuring it out! :)
     
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Thank You
    A
    n absolutely Fabulous example of the type
    of Theater of the Absurd, wonderland reasoning, that we see coming out of Washington of late !

    So the UN has no authority over issues involving its own Charter and Resolutions which
    are voted upon by the Signatorys to that Charter, and such Resolutions when Past by
    .an overwhelming majority become mere opinion.when they contradict your Policy objectives .

    I have watched before, with great amusement, as fanatical Ideologues fly in the face of Hard Reality
    when the contradictions of their reprehensible Ideologies are made evident, but this one takes the CAKE


    Please entertain
    Can you give us a step by step of your Reasoning, Logic & any Syllogisms that you might have used
    ....................................................................to arrive at such Ridiculous & Outrageous conclusions

    And while in Wonderland
    May I Suggest You MEDICATE


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    "You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe
    whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland,
    and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." The term redpill refers to
    a human that is aware of the true nature of the Matrix



    Choosing to act in contravention to the UN Charter which your country has signed can't help
    but to irrevocably damage your Cause & your Credibility - And with Crediblity so goes Influence -
    People & Nations learn NOT to trust you, & begin act accordingly - AS WE SEE HERE WITH THIS VOTE

    Now if you think that you can get along without the rest of the World, go for it, give it a spin !
    ................The only other people I know of who have tried such a feat where all Psychotics
    ............................................................................................................& they ALL failed
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I have heard that tune played before. Just a guess but I feel the average working american couldn't care less about the UN.
     
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    The placement of an embassy is matter between the states involved. The UN has no authority over the matter.
    The UN can yell and and scream all its wants - the US and Israel have every right to agree on a location; that they agree means there is no controversy under international law.
    Feel free to show otherwise.
     
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    NOT in a City designated and agreed upon, at the time Israel's founding by UN Partition
    to be INTERNATIONAL TERRITORY - A City owned neither by Israel nor by Palestine
    ................................................................. a City - Corpus Separatum
    ..................................................................Feel free to show otherwise
     
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    I think your entire position is delusional. I don't view this as a black eye for the world or the US. This is America First. If we have politicians that want to serve the world, then go find out who elects those folks and vote for them. Here in the US, we look out for our interests and US law for 20 years has been that the US embassy is moving to Jerusalem.

    Trump, didn't trick you on this. He proclaimed this was his position in the campaign, and then when he was elected, followed through. Unheard of, I know, get used to it.
     
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    Jerusalem is a city fully within the confines of Israel.
    Israel can agree to put an embassy anywhere it wishes within its own territory.

    -Israel wasn't founded by the UN or it's partition plan
    -Israel isn't beholden to the UN partition plan in any way
    -The reality on the ground has superseded said partition plan, rendering it moot

    And thus, your reference to the partition plan is meaningless, to the Nth degree.

    And so...
    The UN can yell and and scream all its wants - the US and Israel have every right to agree on a location; that they agree means there is no controversy under international law.
    Feel free to show otherwise.
     
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    Per capita doesn't mean anything when the aid goes to other countries. The only per capita stat that matters is the group of recipients of aid receive more from us per capita. There are plenty of highly populated countries who are broke, no one would expect them to pay more since they have a higher population.
     
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    Israel doesn't have Jerusalem as a city. It only has west-Jerusalem as a city. East aint part of it.
    The UN has that authority.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    The optics for her are terrible on numerous levels; she's again revealed as the sleazy, pandering operative she is, and Trump as someone who led her into incineration.

    Bigly bad for both, but Trump can limp away.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Incorrect.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Correct.
     
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    Are you suggesting that Nikki H is sleazy and tRUmp is limp?
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Again, you're replying to this mystery poster; good luck finding him. :)

    This is a horrendous move by Trump, and a politically deadly one for Haley in supporting it with such amoral relish.

    Trump tricking me? Again, you're confusing me with someone else.

    Cigar has a similar avatar to mine - maybe you're thinking of him?

    Best of luck figuring it out! :)
     
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    One word: EPIC! :)
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    On second thought, she may lack even the fiber to be sleazy...

    But she can start writing her book; she's done.
     
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    You have been shown the Facts otherwise but your engraved in stone Ideology
    refuses to let you Perceive it. - Such blindness to moral truth is commonly known as
    .......................................................................... "Willful Ignorance"

    You are simply stating that You & Israel agree and have the power to impose your will.
    Disregarding out of hand, any legality, law, document or ruling that may stand in your
    way. In effect spitting upon "The Rule Of Law" and all it stands for and adopting
    the infamous & Fascist stance of
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    I must Thank You for so brazenly standing so Naked & EXPOSED before us
    shorn of any shred of ethics or morality. All illusions cast off as the Gross & Vile
    nature of your "Might Makes Right" philosophy is there for all to see
    I need not involve in long deep & cogent argument - You STRIP yourself !

    Any so called diplomat such as Nikki Haley, who resorts to the fallacious
    "Argumentum Ad Baculum" or the "Might Makes Right" fallacy, ruins
    their case and destroys their legitimacy. The argument that resorts to threat
    of force, or some other unpleasant backlash such as economic loss, to try
    and make UN members vote in accord with their wishes, simply establishes
    their credentials as a Prostitute hired by a country degenerate & Void of morals.

    Absolutely NONE of your senseless blather does ANYTHING whatsoever to
    in anyway change the Legal "Corpus Separatum' status of Jerusalem
    or the FACT that present Israel was established by UN Resolution

    To appeal to "Facts on the Ground" to establish the validity of your claim only
    highlights your Bald disregard for any principal'd "Rule Of Law" and your
    direct and brutal application of a "Might Makes Right" dictate

    Such a doctrine goes against virtually everything your country has believed
    or espoused as a Free & Democratic nation and against everything your
    Fathers strive'd for in the formulating of your Constitution -

    People who stand here proudly espousing such reprehensible sentiments
    stand here a traitor to all that. For "Might Makes Right" is the very foundation
    of Fascism & Totalitarianism, and once accepted to solve some simple problem,
    The Boot on your neck will inevitably follow - Good Luck To You


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    ^ Massive, if highly eccentric, thread win.
     
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