"1.8 Million Definite Militia Members" to March on DC, >>MOD WARNING<<<

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  1. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The only reason the SPLC is called "far left" is because it addresses hate groups. The "far right" doesn't address hate groups because so many of the far right are members of hate groups.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh really? How does the "unbiased" SPLC define the Black Muslims, or the New Black Panthers, or the NAACP, for that matter?
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For those who bother to check, the list of whom is classified by the SPLC as a hate group is available, and one can clearly see the point you are attempting to make completely failed.

    The NBP are classified by the SPLC as a hate group.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party

    The Nation of Islam, which I think is the group you are trying to convey as there is not such group as "Black Muslims", is defined by the SPLC as a black separatist group.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/nation-of-islam

    Lumping in the NAACP is just silliness.
     
  4. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Black Muslims are , without a doubt, a HATE GROUP,and the NAACP is vicsiously RACIST against white Americans, and, therefor , ALSO a hate group.

    But, of course, NOT to the SPLC.

    Pretending your "altered data" is factual, is "just silliness".
     
  5. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, your accusations regarding the SPLC were incorrect, and the information that would have made your accusations correct was but a key stroke away.
     
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    You attempt to belittle social conservatives with a quote like this and expect us to accept you as the reasonable voice on the left?

    Don't make me laugh.
     
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    True depending on your state, but if you dislike Colorado's magazine laws you can move to Arizona. If you dislike the NFA you're stuck with it.

    Closer to the individual = better.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course, because the SPLC is the Arbiter of Who is a Hate Group.

    To pretend that the NAACP is NOT a race-based, anti-white hate group, as well as the Nation of Islam, any church espousing Black Liberation Theology, etc., ad nauseum, is as ridicupous as the OP claim that the planned march on DC is "in conflict with the Constitution", and nothing that the SPLC has to say about it , can change it.
     
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    What about the publicly funded Congressional Black Caucus which is segregated and limited to blacks only?

    Jim Crow in reverse.
     
  10. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should start a thread about it.
     
  11. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The SPLC identifies several "black" organizations as being hate groups including the New Black Panther Party.and Nation of Islam.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...he_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_as_hate_groups

    It doesn't identify the NAACP which is an organizationd dedcated to equality for blacks and not black supremacy. A group dedicated to equality is not a hate group. The NAACP does not advocate hatred of anyone including whites.

    The SPLC has never allowed any "bias" to be the foundation for the identification of Hate Groups in America although the majority of hate groups happen to be extreme right-wing groups.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Their inclusion of the NBP is the exception that proves the rule. They had no choice. Where are the Nation of Islam; Black Liberation Theology churches, anything Harry Bellafonte or Julian Bond is a member of, etc. ?
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The SPLC applies the commonly accepted criteria of Hate Group to any group it investigates and does not assign the label of Hate Group based upon any arbitrary criteria. Try actually become informed as opposed to expressing complete ignorance on the topic.

    Please cite an example of the NAACP ever advocating Black Supremacy or Hatred of anyone including Whites. The NAACP has always been expressly dedicated to advocating equality for blacks (and actually everyone) in America and to nothing else.
     
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    Are you kidding?

    10. In March 2008, ABC News revealed that Barack Obama&#8217;s pastor had preached that African Americans should sing &#8220;not God Bless America, *******n America,&#8221; that 9/11 proved that &#8220;America&#8217;s chickens are coming home to roost,&#8221; and that the U.S. government invented AIDS. The following month, on April 28, 2008, the NAACP&#8217;s Detroit chapter honored the Rev. Jeremiah Wright as a keynote speaker at a massive dinner.

    9. In 2000, the NAACP filed an amicus curiae brief on behalf of Mumia Abu Jamal, the former Black Panther who murdered a white police officer in 1981. &#8220;I shot the motherf&#8212;&#8211; and I hope the motherf&#8212;&#8211; dies,&#8221; three witnesses heard a wounded Abu Jamal exclaim in a Philadelphia hospital.

    8. The rhetoric of Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP from 1998 to 2000, exemplifies the organization&#8217;s migration from the mainstream to the extreme. In his words, Republicans are &#8220;the white people&#8217;s party&#8221; and &#8220;a crazed swarm of right-wing locusts,&#8221; America morphs into a place where &#8220;white supremacy&#8221; is &#8220;everywhere,&#8221; and the George W. Bush Administration exemplifies a regime &#8220;whose devotion to the Confederacy is nearly canine in its uncritical affection.&#8221;

    7. On July 1, 1934, W.E.B. Du Bois resigned from the organization he helped found after an ugly feud with the NAACP&#8217;s more moderate leaders, crudely accusing Walter White, an African American, of being white. The previous year, Du Bois called for a plan that &#8220;will involve increased segregation and perhaps migration&#8221; for African Americans. &#8220;The thinking colored people of the United States must stop being stampeded by the word segregation,&#8221; Du Bois insisted in the January 1934 issue of The Crises, adding four months later: &#8220;I fight segregation with segregation.&#8221; The parting of ways saved the NAACP further embarrassment. Their founder made an ill-advised trip to Nazi Germany in 1936 that resulted in, among other lamentable items, &#8220;The German Case against Jews,&#8221; an apologia in which Du Bois excused German anti-Semitism as a &#8220;reasoned prejudice&#8221; based on &#8220;economic fear.&#8221;

    6. For many, April 8, 1994 was the day the NAACP jumped the shark. The group invited a rogue&#8217;s gallery of crackpots, extremists, and racists to a secret meeting, dubbed (take a deep breath): &#8220;a deliberate mechanism for communication and interrelations between representative leaders of the progressive community and the NAACP within the inclusive mission of the Chavis administration and the African-centered self-determined program thrust of the &#8216;new&#8217; NAACP.&#8221; Attendees included black supremacist Leonard Jeffries, famous for his &#8220;sun people&#8221;/&#8221;ice people&#8221; dichotomy to explain the differences between blacks and whites; Maulana Karenga, the originator of Kwanzaa who went to prison for torturing two women; and fringe presidential candidate Lenora Fulani.

    5. Louis Farrakhan teaches that an evil scientist named Yakub created white people, claims to have been abducted in a UFO, and has made a mountain of anti-Semitic utterances. So it shocked many when the NAACP invited the Nation of Islam grand panjandrum to participate in a &#8220;leadership summit&#8221; on June 12-14, 1997.

    4. When Al Gore selected Joe Lieberman as his running mate in 2000, Dallas NAACP chapter head Lee Alcorn responded with alarm that a Jewish American had been selected on a national ticket. &#8220;I&#8217;m concerned about, you know, any kind of Jewish candidate, you know, and I&#8217;m concerned about the Democratic Party,&#8221; Alcorn said on a radio program. &#8220;And if we get a Jew person, then what I&#8217;m wondering is, I mean, what is this movement for, you know?&#8221; African Americans, the NAACP leader maintained, &#8220;need to be suspicious of any kind of partnerships between the Jews at that kind of level because we know that their interest primarily has to do with, you know, money and these kind of things.&#8221;

    3. The Obama Administration bounced Van Jones out of its administration after the media learned he had led a Communist organization, signed a petition claiming that the Bush Administration &#8220;may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen,&#8221; and organized a vigil on September 12, 2001 memorializing the victims of U.S. imperialism. Though Jones was ultimately too extreme for the U.S. President, he was just right for the NAACP&#8217;s president. On February 26, 2010, the NAACP&#8217;s Image Awards bestowed a &#8220;President&#8217;s Award&#8221; upon Van Jones.

    2. In the 1970s, a judge sentenced Benjamin Chavis to prison for his role in the firebombing a white-owned grocery store in a black part of Wilmington, N.C. A judge overturned his conviction on a technicality in 1980, with Chavis&#8217;s makeover so complete that the NAACP elected him chairman on April 9, 1993. A few months later, Chavis demanded the inclusion of the Nation of Islam in a 30th anniversary celebration of the March on Washington. He explained, &#8220;I want everybody here to know that the NAACP is standing with the Nation of Islam.&#8221; Angela Davis, Sister Souljah, and Leonard Jeffries were among the extremists Chavis extended an olive branch to during his short tenure as NAACP leader. Chavis, a former Christian minister, has joined the Nation of Islam since his firing from the NAACP.

    1. Ten years after the NAACP and W.E.B. Du Bois originally parted company in 1934, the civil rights organization welcomed him back. Whereas Du Bois&#8217;s peculiar racial views led to the first parting, his support for communism led to the final parting in 1948. Du Bois subsequently eulogized Stalin as a &#8220;great&#8221; and &#8220;courageous&#8221; man that had been &#8220;attacked and slandered as few men of power have been,&#8221; likened North Korean Communists to the American patriots of 1776, accepted a Lenin Peace Prize, was feted with a nation holiday in Maoist China, joined the Communist Party USA, renounced his American citizenship, and emigrated to Kwame Nkrumah&#8217;s Ghana.


    http://www.humanevents.com/2010/08/02/top-10-examples-of-naacp-racism/
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Once again, if you want to dispute the SPLC's list then provide a list from any other nationally recognized organization that identifies hate groups in America. If that can't be done then you're just spouting ignorant opinion.
     
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    Translation: if you already have the Obama Hate Derangment, then you would instantly believe this is true without proof just like I do.
     
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    Can you explain why you defended OWS when they called for open Revolution but condemn these groups before they even protest?
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Not a single one of these reflects the official position of the NAACP. Try actually quoting the NAACP website where the official policies of the NAACP are presented. The policies and beliefs of individuals do not necessarily represent the official policies of the NAACP anymore than an individual member of the NRA represents the NRA even if asked to attend and speak at an NRA function.

    The SPLC does not use individual opinions in establishing a group as a Hate Group unless that member is acting in the capacity of the leader of the organization. For example, Judson Phillips of the Tea Party Nation because it is a corporation and he is the founder and CEO of the corporation so his statements reflect the racial hatred of the Tea Party Nation.
     
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    >>>Flamebait Removed<<<

    Since its founding in 1930, the Nation of Islam (NOI) has grown into one of the wealthiest and best-known organizations in black America, offering numerous programs and events designed to uplift African Americans. Nonetheless, its bizarre theology of innate black superiority over whites &#8212; a belief system vehemently and consistently rejected by mainstream Muslims

    Mainstream muslims around the world are taught that they are so superiority over whites that they have a religious duty to kill those who refuse islam. You don't kill equals over religion as we see with liberal & progressives willing to do over their religion of liberal elitism.

    Where is the list of liberal hate groups?

    How can you pretend that liberals aren't a core hate group when their leaders vote to invade Iraq and then promote hate for Bush as if they had been fooled?

    The question that really confuses me is how liberals can promote lifelong government dependence over the work ethic promoted by conservatives. During BH Obama's time in the White House his administration has enslaved more human beings with food stamps, welfare, unemployment payments, etc. than we brought here from Africa. Making the number of Black slaves to live in the US at around 12m (there were 4m alive when the War between the States started) there may have been more White people brought here as indentured servants. (about half of the total population that arrived in the 17th and 18th century) Unlike the Black slaves the white people who agreed to pay for their passage with work and worked hard became productive conservatives and those whites who came as criminals had to be punished to get them to work and gave rise to the liberal horde that we are suffering today.
     
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    Nope, Its a fact and you know that, if you took your blinders off.

    wait...

    Are you seriously suggesting Obama really wanted to create a "Civilian Security Force" just as strong, just as well funded as the US Military? You actually believe thats really what he was intending? really? Theres no way anyone could be that stupid.

    obama wanted to spend 750 billion dollars on a "Civilian Security Force"? AHHAHAHAHAHA and you claim im a liar... HAHAHAHAHAHA
     
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    Where did he say anything about "just as strong and well funded as the US military"?
     
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    oh so you didnt even bother to read my post before you spewed forth bs?

    Here watch the liar in chief attempt to take everyones guns, by perverting the Second Amendment of the United States of America.

    [video=youtube;Tt2yGzHfy7s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s[/video]
     
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    I think the reason libs are so honestly ignorant of the real Obama is because the pro Obama lapdogs in the lib news media do not keep them informed about what's going on.
     
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    Address this after the demonstration and see what really happened. You act like you know what they're going to do, and you don't.

    If this even takes place, they will be there to make a point.

    OWS had their intentions too, but it turned into a Woodstock Jr with a bunch of people complaining while holding signs, hoping to get on TV, and a good dose of drinking, drugs and sex.... followed by tons and tons and tons left behind for city workers to pick up, using thousands of hours of overtime from the cities. Not the corporations (except for the few we heard had donated money for the clean-up in various cities).

    Picking up tents, empty beer bottles and used condoms deserves more than time-and-a-half.
     

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