"10/19: President Trump Legacy May Be as One of the Worst U.S. Presidents"

vanityofvanitys · Oct 20, 2017

JakeStarkey said: ↑

You are on the way to Planet Ignore. Birther. Sigh.
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Well of course. I did not write that with any misconceptions I may evoke any reaction from your type except laughter.

Nor would any link from digital or graphic experts analyzing it cause even one neuron reaction in your consciences. I just like to repeat this stuff so I can read it again myself.

Denizen · Oct 20, 2017

JakeStarkey said: ↑

Every time Trump has seemed to reach the bottom, he continually lowers the bar.
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Trump is headed for a crash and burn mental breakdown.

He is isolated and friendless. Even his family has gone to ground and are shunning him.

Grokmaster · Oct 20, 2017

Wild Horses said: ↑

As if you could pummel anything.
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Better review your post attempting to impugn my knowledge of Iran/Contra, where you jammed your foot up to the knee into your own mouth...

Grokmaster · Oct 20, 2017

Denizen said: ↑

Trump is headed for a crash and burn mental breakdown.

He is isolated and friendless. Even his family has gone to ground and are shunning him.
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Uh-huh. Because he's in daily communication with you and/or your "sources".

Yulee · Oct 20, 2017

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And Bush sr. was subsequently elected in a landslide AFTER Iran Contra, was he not?

And bullshit: It was WELL ON, before the 1984 elections...
U.S. Actions in Nicaragua, August 1981 to December 1982

In August 1981, a CIA official met with Honduran military officials, Argentine advisers, and the FDN leadership and expressed his support for the contra operations. On November 1, the Director of the CIA William Casey met with the Chief of Staff of the Argentine military; the two purportedly agreed that Argentina would oversee the contras and the United States would provide money and weapons. In late 1981, President Reagan authorized the U.S. to support the contras by giving them “money, arms, and equipment” through Argentina, with the potential for “the occasional direct involvement of the United States in supporting individual operations.” As a result, according to Kornbluh, “the frequency and destructiveness of the contra attack increased rapidly.” So, too, did their numbers. Toward the end of 1982, the contras (who operated out of Honduras) were conducting attacks deep inside Nicaragua.

The First Boland Amendment

As contra attacks continued throughout 1982, the U.S. press began to report on U.S. support for the rebels. Liberal members of Congress condemned the policy, arguing that it was immoral and perhaps illegal. Eventually, Congressman Edward Boland (D-MA), Chairman of the House intelligence committee, offered an amendment “prohibiting the use of funds ‘for the purpose of’ overthrowing the government of Nicaragua or provoking a war between Nicaragua and Honduras” which became law on December 21, 1982. The use of funds for this purpose had actually been secretly prohibited per an agreement between Congress and the White House; thus, the amendment had no practical effect on the conduct of U.S. policy. Kagan identifies a “loophole” in the law; namely, that as long as the United States itself did not intend to overthrow the Nicaraguan government, the United States could support the contras, who did have that intent. Indeed, according to a PBS Frontline documentary, the amendment did not affect the conduct of the war in Nicaragua.

U.S. Policy between Boland I and Boland II

After Boland I, contra attacks in Nicaragua continued to grow. Despite summary executions of Sandinista soldiers and other brutal measures, the contras often found support among the people in the countryside. The number of contra soldiers continued to grow as well. To counter this threat, the Sandinistas received operational support from a Cuban military general and weapons from the Soviet Union. The CIA began airlifting supplies to the contras, and the contras conducted “spectacular” guerilla assaults on their targets. During the second half of 1983, with the help of the CIA, the contras conducted air strikes on Sandino airport near Managua and other targets. The CIA itself used its own assets to carry out some covert actions in Nicaragua, including destroying several fuel tanks. The CIA also placed mines in Nicaraguan harbors on January 7, 1984 and February 29, 1984, damaging several ships. The contras initially took credit for the mining, but the Wall Street Journal reported it to be the work of the CIA a few months later. Moreover, it was discovered that Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, a U.S. Marine who worked on the National Security Council staff at the Reagan White House, had known of and recommended the operation.

The Second Boland Amendment

As the war in Nicaragua grew, many Congresspersons were concerned that the Administration’s policies violated the Boland Amendment, prompting political wrangling involving the White House and Congress over contra funding. The revelation that the CIA was responsible for mining Nicaragua’s harbors infuriated Congresspersons of both political parties, including Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, who felt that the CIA had failed to inform the committee of the operation in advance as required by law. (In fact, DCI Casey may have informed the committee, albeit in an arguably veiled way.) As a result, the second Boland Amendment was passed on October 12, 1984. It read:
No appropriations or funds made available pursuant to this [authorization bill] to the Central Intelligence Agency, the Department of Defense, or any other agency or entity of the United States involved in intelligence activities may be obligated or expended for the purpose or which would have the effect of supporting, directly or indirectly, military or paramilitary operations in Nicaragua by any nation, group, organization, movement, or individual.
For all intents and purposes, this amendment appeared to prohibit the funding of the contras with U.S. government funds.

https://www.brown.edu/Research/Understanding_the_Iran_Contra_Affair/n-contrasus.php

Try again, "history major".
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None of this changes facts or my statement. It wasn't know to the public till Regans 2nd term.1986!

Denizen · Oct 20, 2017

Grokmaster said: ↑

Uh-huh. Because he's in daily communication with you and/or your "sources".

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Trump is the source of your Grok? You are not master of your domain.

Steve N · Oct 20, 2017

Grokmaster said: ↑

No, Pres. Bush signed off on them being released, as did Kerry and Gore, Jr. Why won't Obama?
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If I was the smartest man in the room I'd be proud to prove it.

Grokmaster · Oct 20, 2017

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None of this changes facts or my statement. It wasn't know to the public till Regans 2nd term.1986!
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Can't read?
Bullshit. It was "known" when the pro-communist, John Kerry-led Senate passed the ILLEGAL BOLAND AMENDMENT, (1982) had it STRUCK DOWN, and tried ANOTHER ONE.(1983-4) The conflict between the pro-communists in the Senate and Reagan overt opposition to communist expansion in the Western Hemishpere, started on DAY ONE.

This is what caused the great exodus of Southern Democrats to the GOP...which happened in the early to mid 80's , as well.

The press is who STARTED IT, in 1981-82, because they were "upset" that Reagan was helping fight against their American left's Darling Comminsts in Nicaraugua, El Salvador, etal.

We were QUITE AWARE OF IT....

Yulee · Oct 20, 2017

Grokmaster said: ↑

Can't read?
Bullshit. It was "known" when the pro-communist, John Kerry-led Senate passed the ILLEGAL BOLAND AMENDMENT, (1982) had it STRUCK DOWN, and tried ANOTHER ONE.(1983-4) The conflict between the pro-communists in the Senate and Reagan overt opposition to communist expansion in the Western Hemishpere, started on DAY ONE.

This is what caused the great exodus of Southern Democrats to the GOP...which happened in the early to mid 80's , as well.

The press is who STARTED IT, in 1981-82, because they were "upset" that Reagan was helping fight against their American left's Darling Comminsts in Nicaraugua, El Salvador, etal.

We were QUITE AWARE OF IT....
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Utter nonsense.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/President-ronald-reagan-iran-contra-timeline-annotated

First sale was August 1985.

JakeStarkey · Oct 21, 2017

http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/

A number of graphs reveal that American lean Dem. Here is just one.

JakeStarkey · Oct 21, 2017

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Except the far right are so inflamed they bought up the market.

Steve N said: ↑

We're not inflamed at all. The people who are inflamed are the ones who saw the Russian ads on Facebook and were influenced enough to switch over to Trump. Thanks Vlad.
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Um . . . you just said what I said.

JakeStarkey · Oct 21, 2017

Steve N said: ↑

We're not inflamed at all. The people who are inflamed are the ones who saw the Russian ads on Facebook and were influenced enough to switch over to Trump. Thanks Vlad.
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Grokmaster said: ↑

Both polls have been famously WRONG for about a year and a half, Where you been? No kidding, why I keep asking why doesn't he release them? Bush went on to get a HARVARD MBA/ Gore flunked out of grad school. Der...
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Posters like you have been wrong, almost continually. You have been lost. Why should he release them? Your opinion on the matter simply does not matter.

JakeStarkey · Oct 21, 2017

clarkeT · Oct 21, 2017

"10/19: President Trump Legacy May Be as One of the Worst U.S. Presidents" Ya think? Really, when it comes to Presidents of the U.S., one of the grossest understatements I have EVER heard!!!

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