103 Marines booted for refusing COVID vaccine as services begin discharges

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    But you are 100% on board with voter ID laws when there has been only 0.00004% of provable voter fraud in the history of our elections.

    Funny that, huh?
     
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    vaccines have been required in our military since before the Vietnam war. Was the United states a totalitarian regime then? Your hyperbole is both funny and your faux outrage pathetic.
     
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    After Gulf War Syndrome impacted over 250,000 soldiers maybe service personnel should not blindly be willing to take injections or drugs such as Pyridostigmine that was given during the Gulf war before possible never agent exposure -- a drug that possibly caused Gulf War Syndrome.
     
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    Your reading comprehension is very weak today.

    The troops are commanded to get vaccinated.

    Some troops refuse.

    How can those troops who refuse be trusted to carry out other orders?

    Therefore, they should be immediately discharged without exception.
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    How did people know that the polio vaccine wouldn't cause their brains to rot when it first came out?
     
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    Leftists love cleansing institutions. There is zero need for a person that contracted CV-19 and now has antibodies, T Cells, and B Cells to ever take a vaccine for it. Until the Authoritarians in charge go away and we get some leadership that actually follows Science, no one should be taking the leadership on CV-19 seriously. All they are is forcing record Big Pharma profit through coercion, not Science.
     
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    Do you remember how the anti-vaxxers resisted the measles vaccine just a few years ago?
     
  8. signalmankenneth

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    I think these anti-vaxxer Marines, got off easy they receive a general discharge under honorable conditions, not a bad conduct or dishonorable discharge?!!
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    For those of us that understand math, there were mandatory during Orange Jesus' stain on our Oval Office as well. I guess that doesn't count because he's, you know, Orange Jesus.
     
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    Measles' vaccines have been established through normal testing and the side effects are known. Also, people that already had measles have no need for the vaccine. There is this thing called Natural Immunity that humans get once they contract a virus and their antibodies, T Cells, and B Cells all confer long term immunity and resilience.

    Also, anti-vaxxers are anyone, vaccinated or not, that does not support government mandates. The Leftists literally changed the definition of the word. How very Orwellian of the Left.

    You're Welcome.
     
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    They didn't claim it had no log term effects in the first year it was out. Apparently Democrats were smarter then.
     
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    You mean like vaccines that went through the process to cycle out long term effects and completed testing before being released?
    Not experimental gene therapies.
     
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    Your problem is you were told it was a vaccine. Then you were told it was an FDA approved vaccine.
    So you added up the numbers in your head and believed what you were told and you now compare it to every other vaccine that went through the proper process. Which it isn't.

    1. This is not a vaccine. It is gene therapy. Nothing more
    2. You have no way of knowing the long term effects of this so called vaccine that has been out for 1 year. Claiming anything more is just for the idiotic
    3. It doesn't prevent you from getting Covid
    4. It doesn't stop you from spreading Covid
    5. Covid already has has a 99% survival rate
    6. We already know your natural immunity is several times higher than this gene therapy
    7. If you don't get boosters every 6 months for this so called vaccine, even the CDC claims you are not vaccinated
    8. Studies by John Hopkins as well as the study in Israel have proven that half of the hospitalized Covid cases are vaccinated.
    9. They have proven you are 20 times more likely to get reinfected with the so called vaccine than you are with natural immunity
    10. They have proven you are 13 times more likely to be hospitalized with the Vaccine than you are from Natural immunity.

    Nothing on this planet that is an actual vaccine has these statistics. NOTHING.
     
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    Its funny how you make up fake obscure numbers to try and disprove someones information because you can't actually dispute the information. lol
     
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    Wait, you believe the Military will stop forcing their service members to receive vaccines once someone else is POTUS?

    LOL, are you serious?
     
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    What numbers have been made up?
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Yet you provided no link to substantiate any of the horseshit you posted.
     
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    John Hopkins Study
    Model 1
    compared 16,215 people in both the vaccinated and natural immunity groups and found that cases in the vaccinated group (n=238, 1.5%) were 13 fold more likely to experience a breakthrough infection than the natural immunity group (n=19, 0.12%). The majority of the cases were symptomatic. There were very few hospitalizations in either group with only 8 in the vaccine arm and 1 in the natural immunity arm.

    Model 2 compared 46,035 people in both the vaccinated and natural immunity groups, and found that cases in the vaccinated group (n=640, 1.4%) were 6-fold more likely to experience a breakthrough infection than the natural immunity group (n=108, 0.23%). The majority of the cases were symptomatic. There were very few hospitalizations in either group with only 21 in the vaccine arm and 4 in the natural immunity arm.
    https://ncrc.jhsph.edu/research/com...-reinfections-versus-breakthrough-infections/

    Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine
    The study, conducted in one of the most highly COVID-19–vaccinated countries in the world, examined medical records of tens of thousands of Israelis, charting their infections, symptoms, and hospitalizations. It’s the largest real-world observational study so far to compare natural and vaccine-induced immunity to SARS-CoV-2.
    1, Never-infected vaccinated individuals were six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus.
    2. The risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus.
    3. The risk of hospitalization among the vaccinated were eight times higher than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus.
    https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
     
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    0.00004% of provable voter fraud
     
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    None of your studies have been peer reviewed.

    But since you enjoy non peer reviewed studies, this one says you have super immunity if you've been infected by Rona and have received at least one vaccine. And yes, they are vaccines. I don't care what kook blog you read that called it gene therapy.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...9-vaccination-heres-what-this-study-said/amp/
     
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    Did you consider it may be a false analogy to compare the new messenger RNA technology (for which the government has eliminated manufacturer liability via a PREP Act declaration) to a vaccine based on a dead or live virus?
     
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    It's simple math. Here , I'll use a rightist link, heritage foundation to show ya. This link shows 1,147 proven, criminal convictions of voter fraud in the US since 1992.

    https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

    There have been well over 1 billion votes cast in US elections since 1992, but I'll give you a low ball number of 800,000,000 votes cast.

    1,147 out of 800,000,000 is 0.000147%.

    Keep in mind, I gave you a far lower total votes cast number as a simple example.
     
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    The modern militia movement needs more vets anyway, and marines are top grade. Thx Biden!
     
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    So, are you saying that if you were on a nuclear submarine that took a hit and started flooding, that you would refuse to close the hatch to the flooding compartment with you in it in order to save the submarine? If you were a soldier in a firefight and told to charge an enemy machine gun nest you would refuse and start eating popcorn? If you were a bomber pilot and given the order to drop a nuke on an enemy city, killing everyone from newborn babies to 100-year-old grandmothers, you would refuse?
     
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    That's the gist of it. Biden is responsible for the Adam biting an apple, The Great Flood, Dinosaurs and Do-Do birds becoming extent, world poverty, birth defects, homosexuality, Mad Cow Disease, overdue fines at your local library and everything in between. If you were late for work anytime since January 22, 2021...Biden's fault.

    You didn't get your "It's All Biden's Fault" newsletter this month, WS?
     
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