14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Partisan Ghouls: "Never let a crisis go to waste."
     
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    I already told you, but I'm not answering anything for you because you are pretending to give a **** about guns and murder while avoiding this for what is a record 20+ times.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

    Keep running from that, we all know why.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Why are y'all having more high profile murders in the 25 years since the gun ban than in the 25 years before the gun ban?

    Why does Australia have the 2nd HIGHEST rape rate in the world, as of 2022? Are you another one of those folks that think women should just "lay there are take it"? That they shouldn't resist?
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying that the government of Australia stopped fudging its crime numbers?

    While the UK kept on doing it? Wake up.

    "NSW police say they will thoroughly investigate claims that officers at a major Sydney station tried to fudge crime figures.
    An internal inquiry has found that crimes like break-ins, thefts and robberies recorded at the St George Local Area Command were downgraded to lesser offences on the orders of senior officers.
    It is believed data relating to as many as 300 crimes might have been compromised, although a police spokesman said the number was not that high."
    9 NEWS, Probe into NSW police fudging stats begins, Apr 15, 2012.
    https://www.9news.com.au/national/p...s-begins/4357e2fa-f9bf-49af-a792-34033867883d

    Governments are notorious for fudging their data. Surely you know that.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don’t know who y’all is? I am an American

    There has been no gun ban in Australia

    Events become high profile when they are rare or uncommon. That is why the us having having 27 school schooling in half a year makes front pages while the vast majority of gun crimes are completely ignored.

    On to your poor deflection attempt to move the discussion to rape after being caught fabricating data — rapes are caused by a similar culture of shootings. Incel men that believe they are owed something.

    That moves us to the largest issue — how do we get men under control. I would accept banning men from having weapons and issuing fully automatic ones to each woman. Think that would solve some of the issues?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That says nothing about instances of major gun violence which, even though you and yours are trying desperately to change the topic, remains what the discussion is about.

    Are you asserting that mass shootings — specifically school shootings, are being underreported?
     
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    Morality, sexual deviancy, drugs and no concern for mans laws or punishment..
     
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    1. Put criminals in jail.

    2. Give people the ability to defend themselves.

    Simple as that.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We should not put rapists or murderers in jail — they should be executed.

    As to having a gun for defense, I completely agree that is a must in a rapidly disintegrating democracy. How do we keep them out of the hands of men and into the hands of the women and children those men keep victimizing? Or do you not care about the lives of women and children?
     
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    The only thing being underreported is the facts surrounding and associated with mass murder. For starters we can go decades with criminals shooter killing literally several hundreds/thousands of men women and children of color in craphole DNC city ghettos every year and nary a word is mentioned! Ah but when optics are just right, a crazy kills children then all the all the do gooders emerge with all the usual ranting and raving with no real answer other than "Disarm the law abiding"..

    In two weeks all the bullshit will be recycled, while the DNC inner city slaughter continues as it has for last six decades!
     
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    You're kidding. The worst argument ever made. Simply a poor deflection because you have no case.
     
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    Church bombings are acceptable to you?
     
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    I agree. Too bad the Leftist idiots you vote for don't.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lesser of two evils. I do support ranked choice voting so hopefully soon there will be more than two options.

    I would rather have someone incompetent than someone evil which is all the right seems to be putting up.
     
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    There's no proposed law that would prevent any crime.
    Ok, one thing has nothing to do with the other. All these people that shouldn't have been "walking around free"....you have some devine way of finding them and getting them off the streets. You're talking nonsense.
    Guess you missed this at the end of you story:
    "Editor's note: Since this story aired, Bass has returned to federal custody after being released due to COVID."
    He didn't commit any crimes while out......so, again, you have no point.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Um.....no it didn't. 17 murders is a lot
    So how does that work? Strict gun control and experienced LEO's and yet not only was there no peace but at the same time it wasn't the "wild west". You're talking in circles.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Then why do you keep saying that banning guns will prevent murders?


    The cops know who the bad guy s are. They're the murderers released on parole.

    Oh, ok. Here's one better...


    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ause-coronavirus-killed-man-next-day-n1184051

    That piece of **** didn't make it 24 hours before he murdered someone.
     
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    Ranked choice voting, so more Leftist idiots will get elected?...lol

    Incompetence is the reason the crime rate has risen.
     
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    That argument doesn't hold water at all. It's all speculation.
    So you think the cause of all the guns in the US is from smuggling? Seriously??!!
    If guns are crossing the border it's probably INTO Mexico.
    A true statement but not for the reason given. There are simply a LOT of guns.
    And you know this to be a fact how?
     
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    It says the Australian government fudges its crime data.
    Does fudging the data matter?
     
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    Because anyone can edit a wiki page. Don't you know how wiki works? Why don't you explain why the murder of one person is a mass killing in your opinion? That means that there are tens of thousands of mass killings in the US every year

    And no, there aren't twice the murders since the gun ban than in the 25 years before the gun ban. Oh, and only two of the pre-ban murders don't count as mass murders because all the rest have more than 3 deaths.

    Shall we look at some mass murders missing in your link?

    25 December 1975 – Savoy Hotel Fire - Reginald John Lyttle set fire to newspapers in a hotel in Kings Cross. Fourteen died from carbon monoxide poisoning and one from burns as a result of the fire

    22 September 1976 – William Robert Wilson shot 17-year-old Monika Schleus and 18-year-old Marianne Kalatzis dead and wounded Donald William Hepburn Galloway, Mavis Ethel Sanders, Virginia Hollidge and Quinto Alberti on Boundary Street, Spring Hill, Brisbane in a random shooting. (not a mass killing but so many victims)

    May 1980 and November 1981 – Tynong North and Frankston Murders – Six women were killed in Victoria (unsolved).

    21 August 1993 – John Lascano shot three people dead at a gunshop in the Melbourne suburb of Springvale before stealing a large quantity of firearms and ammunition and setting the store on fire (added this one because pro-gunners always say that gun stores are never robbed)

    No doubt that there are many more
     
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    Never said that. I DID say that guns are the common denominator for all the mass shotings.
    A statement with no basis in fact and is uttered as nonsense
    No, it's sad but far from better.
    Your original statement was that murderers were released.....while that was true, it had no consequence so you had no point. Now you have someone that was released that wasn't a murderer but did commit murder while out.......and you think you made your point.
    You didn't.
     
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    Since no one was talking about church bombings or any bombings at all and because you used it as a strawman I simply dismissed it. Not surprised you would think you won a point.
    You didn't.
     
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    If you subtract every massacre where there were less than 4 victims, there's still 25 massacres between 1997 and 2022 than there were between 1971 and 1997.
     
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    No one is talking about grocery store shootings, either
     
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