150 Farmers Stop a Battalion with Tanks Aircraft and Artillery

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  1. Hate_bs

    Hate_bs New Member

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    Well of course they were able to if they had tanks, aircraft and artillery. Begs the question of where farmers got all that from though.
     
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    The farmers had no tanks aircraft or artillery.
     
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    Since I don't just click on links without some quotes from the article....I guess I will never know.

    It is my experience that when threads are started with nothing much more than a link it is usually to a propaganda site, if not worse.
     
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    So if farmers are so effective, why use soldiers?
     
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    After 5 days and running out of ammo they did.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    go read the article....................especially when you talk without reading, your opinion is based in pure fallacy
     
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    Of course back then you could take out a tank with a hand grenade or a molotov cocktail. Can't do that today.
     
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    technology has come aways for everybody since then. Take IED's in the ME......pretty durned effective, I'd say.
     
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    Yep. Using materials that average civilian doesn't have access to.
     
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    Well, civilians that had access to government armouries because the idiot invaders went in and surrounded the oil fields instead of the weapons caches - Duh!! Plus Illegal weapons trading has been keeping the armaments industry in glowing health for a long time now
     
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    One of the rules of engagement from the Art of War...never assume anything about your enemy. Granted, the average citizen is going to lay down and roll over. Having served in 'Nam, I'd say creative thinking and determination constitues about 80% of any battle or war.
    For example, in 'Nam, they used regular pipe for mortar launchers, laid on their backs with the launcher on their chests and shelled us as we went through the jungle. They were lighter and faster and very difficult to find. Creative little ba****ds got pretty accurate after a while. They used mortar rounds captured from US soldiers.
    IED's come in a wide variety of designs and aren't really that complicated to make. You and I may not have the materials (maybe), but don't assume that no one has anything. I have friends living in the moutains of Hawaii that have never returned from war that are better equipped that the local army reserve. There are countless living in the mountains in the US that are even more dangerous. All of these numbers, even it they constitute 0.01% of the population, are very capable veterans.
    It has been my experience that the "average" citizen is afraid of their own shadow. Hell, read through this forum..you can spot the roll-overs by the way they think. Some are going to be willing collaborators.
    No, you're right, the "average" American doesn't even own a gun with sufficient fire-power to stop a full grown man. But then, I'm not talking about those folks.
    .......if it comes down to that. I surely hope it doesn't, but that doesn't mean that no one is prepared in the event of war, here.
    Captured "enemy combatant supplies" are considered in my argument.
    War takes on a whole new meaning when you are defending your homes and family on your own turf.
    IMO, some will fight with sticks and stones if nothing else is available.
    That's the problem with war...the opponents always figure they can't lose or they will fight to their dying breath.
    Most fighting is done guerilla-style in defending nations.
    I cannot tell if you have ever been in combat, but if I were to hazzard a guess, I'd say not.
     
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    I can make a pretty effective IED with a rented truck and fertilizer.
     
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    I started reading "The Turner Diaries" because someone suggested it, w/o any comment on what was in it.

    It starts out as a rebellion against a gun grabbing govt, and details how civilians could overwhelm law enforcement or the military with so many attacks in so many places that no investigation of perps would be possible.

    Next thing it was talking about how people like me would be hung from lamp posts and i didnt much want to read more. But i learned a couple things, some ideas of how people might try to fight the govt, and, how vicious the racial hatred of some can run.
     
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    Civilians don't need to be able to stop tanks. An M-1 battle tank is impervious to most anti tank weaponry; yet has a range of about 275 miles and a 500 gallon fuel tank to achieve that. Some basic math will tell you that its foolish to attack the tank. If however, you can take out the fuel trucks supporting the tank (much softer targets) and cut them off from other sources of fuel such as diesel, you will reduce the tank to a heap of scrap metal.
    Also, the military has a very finite supply of tanks and armored vehicles. Enough to secure major population centers? Probably. The rural areas too? No way.
    Another flawed assumption that I've seen on here is that the United States military would support the government if it were to turn on its populace. Some may, but many won't. My grandfather is a Korean war vet, my father and uncle are veterans of Vietnam, and my older brother is a Desert Storm vet. I can tell you definitively that many, many service memebers, past and present, would aid the populace in resisting the government if the need arose.
    During World War II, the Japanese General Staff was considering an invasion of the United States. Admiral Yamamoto told them that if Japan invaded America "behind every blade of grass will be a man with a rifle".
    I can't understand how people can believe that guns in the hands of citizens does nothing to ensure freedom.
     

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