18 seconds show those first into Capitol were not Trump supporters

Since they have nothing to speak about they have nothing to hide. What do you think they are hiding and what evidence is it you have?

 

The DOJ, Capital Police and DC police have been investigating and have arrested over 400. How many have been arrested for insurrection?

 

Over 400 so far. How many for insurrection?

Why does it require that there was someone from "outside" and that they had to be "helped". The prosecutors have reported no such conspiracies, who have they charged with such? They get "infected" just as the left wing insurrectionist get "infected". What funding did it take for Jan 6? How are the left wing insurrectionist allowed to "operate freely" like when they take over city blocks for MONTHS with their insurrectionist "governments"?

The Senate just completed it's investigation. Pelosi could have one in the House. And all appropriate branches of law enforcement a going full blast investigating and prosecuting. Why do you want a political investigation?

I haven't seen any evidence Antifa was involved and I hope the Biden DOJ and Pelosi Capital Police are investigating to see if they were. I am for a commission to study ALL insurrection and anarchy to see what we can do to stop ALL of it. Why would you oppose that?

 

AFAIK Pelosi could release that at the snap of her finger and there is no excuse that we do not know who was the officer who fired and where they put on administrative leave pending investigation and what is the outcome of that investigation. And I'm trying to keep an open mind about the shooting until we can see the evidence. But the longer we do not the more the scale leans a certain way.

 

So Trump supporters have been telling us to get over Jan 6. 6 months later fake news Gateway Pundit posts a fake video of supposed Antifa. Trump supporters fall for it because they clearly are not over Jan 6 and can't accept it was full of Trumpers causing violence.

 

Where the hell are your imaginary black clad invaders none of whom are amongst the over 500 arrested and being prosecuted??? Did they vanish into thin air??? So far all are right wringers.

 

we will have to see, I think it will show Trump delayed getting them help on purpose, but let's fine out

 

Let's say the first 18 seconds were Antifa. What about the other 4 hours of Trump Supporters ransacking the capitol?

 

What have they been charged with?

 

If the business owners and citizens of those cities affected want an investigation, then sure, the rioters, looters and police should be investigated. As well, they could look into the organizers. But I don't see it as a federal issue, except where federal agents were dispatched.

 

They are more organized and operate on a more national front INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC. You have the one incident by right wing and demand a commission yet do not want ALL the other incidents over the last two years INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC to be included. Why?

 

So you can't find any charged with insurrection and/or sedition can you. Go look for yourself for what they have been charged.

 

And the left- can never seem to bring itself to recognizing truth. No group nor no person is perfect, but the people who can't recognize anything they don't want to see are totally imperfect- always lying to themselves and telling themselves it's righteous.
That will eventually result in severe consequences.

 

How would Trump do that? He as President had nothing to do with that. We already know the timeliness and disposition of security and the failure of the Capital Police to accept the offers to beef up security.

But here you are again demanding an investigation for your next "WE GOT HIM NOW, THIS IS REALLY IT, JUST YOU WAIT" moment proving this is about Trump and bashing Trump and nothing more.

 

actually he did, sadly, Pence had to intervene from what we hear

he even called members of congress during it, not to see if they were ok, but to get them to do what the insurrectionists wanted them to do

 

I am for the commissions for what you demand - just not federal. Why haven't the local areas affected done their own investigations?

 

I am quite certain that any rational person would be well aware, that if they were trying to force their way into a room where police officers had barricaded the doorway and was pushing back, that one would be well aware that what one was doing, was most likely not exactly legal.

 

Individuals crimes are easier to prosecute than grand conspiracies.

Alex Jones claims to have donated half a million dollars to the effort while coordinating with the White House and members of the groups involved.

 

not to mention they busted the windows in the doors to get in

 

They have been. The Right-wing media have a habit of distorting reality. They would have you believe that the Anti Fascists are a violent, out of control gang. Yet, by all indications, they do little more than counter protest rallies held by Right wing supremacists.

As much as I detest the surveillance that permeates our society, it appears the many cameras have been telling a story quite different from the Republican narrative. Almost all violence has been initiated by violent Right wing agitators. The arrests of members of the Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys have all but eliminated the violent confrontations in Portland. That the vast majority of protestors at the George Floyd, anti police brutality, protests and marches were entirely peaceful. That it was just a small minority, mostly anarchists, causing all the destruction.

Cities such as Denver, Seattle, Portland, and Minneapolis, four of the five liberal jewels, have taken steps to reform their police departments. After all, it is the actions of the police, as a profession, that led to the conditions that people were protesting. Every city in America has stories of the police unnecessarily killing people, especially people of color. Cities have paid out many, many millions of dollars in police misconduct cases. The protest were mostly middle class people fed up with the militarization of the police and the abuse citizens receive. I’m sure the decriminalization of recreational drugs, and the insertion of social workers into police calls will result in less abuse of citizens at the hands of the police. That and real accountability for police misconduct.

It seems to me that Republicans and conservatives want to punish those who participated in the protests, even though almost none have done anything more than exercise their First Amendment rights. The problem is a police problem, it is they that need to change, not those who oppose what they have become.

 

When I was a kid, twelve I think, my family took a vacation to the District of Columbia. We spent days seeing all the sights, walking through all the museums, visiting all the monuments. Even took a tour through the White House and the Capital. Not once did we have to break down a door or climb through a broken window to get inside.

 

OH that's ticket "It's just too hard" ROFLMAO

I don't know Alex Jones and could care less what he claims if there is reasonable suspicion the was in involved in some criminal conspiracy the DOJ can investigate and charge him. Are they and have they?

Still can't find anyone charged with this insurrection and/or sedition even though the MSM/Left/Dems have been claiming is was a clear case.

 

And? They are being arrested and prosecuted, have you missed that? This is about a law enforcement officer shooting and killing someone. A homicide. Who was the officer, was he put on administrative leave pending an investigation, has that investigation occurred if so what was the finding if not why not?

 

He did what, you claimed Trump somehow held up, delayed additional response to the protest at the Capital. How did he do that?

 

Apparently some people only see what they want to see. Kind of like how Derek Chauvin didn’t really kill George Floyd.