1st Newspaper Declares Ted Cruz Ineligible

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  1. rammstein

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    Interesting. He makes a good case.
     
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    If this is solid, then there has been some recent egregious failures to
    protect the integrity of our government.
     
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    Constitution doesn't say he cant RUN for president. just that he cant BE president.

    Not sure why people are wasting thier time voting for him when he was born in Canada..
     
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    It was always my understanding that you had to be born in the US to be President. I think the SCOTUS just defers to the Congress on these purely political questions though since the Constitution itself does not define the term.
     
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    The problem is there are little options to protect the integrity of government. For example, if the President or Congress does something illegal virtually no one has any standing to even challenge it in court. The same applies here. You or I could not legally challenge his candidacy. The only potential people who could challenge this are 1.) other candidates (maybe) or 2.) if a state election official refused to put him on the ballot. So even if it 100% violates the Constitution there is exactly nothing regular citizens can do about it.

    Because the media and press will scream "BIGOT! RACIST!" at any candidate who filed challenging this and no state official wants to face that, even if 100% unconstitutional it is unlikely anyone dare challenge it in court.

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    Plus he pro-actively kept his Canadian citizen until 2015. As his wife put it, he's an "immigrant" to the USA.

    The question is NOT whether he is a "citizen," but rather a "natural born citizen."
     
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    look at it this way? how would this be viewed if he was born in Syria or Iran?, becasue in reality there would be no difference in precedent then born in Canada. not to mention Lyin Ted "Lucifer" lived there 5 plus years after he was born.
     
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    Although I've seen where the "original intent" of the Founders has been a big factor in their decisions. And to know the original intent, they go back into history and look at the writings by the Founders and do the research. There may or may not be a good case on the other side of the argument, but the man in video laid out a good case using the historical references.
     
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    I have read that the reason the provision was added as natural born citizen was because there was a movement among some circles to make the colonies a Prussian protectorate and there was fear that one foreign king would be replaced by another. If that is true, then I doubt you will find much enlightenment as to the current situation.
     
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    A Canadian immigrant who only decided not to be a Canadian citizen in 2015 for president? Why would anyone see a problem with that? :roflol:

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    He wasn't born in Kenya. People born to an American in Kenya can't be president. Canadian citizens born in Canada can. Why is that so difficult to understand?
     
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    Although his citizenship is in question ( And should be. ), the real reason he should NOT hold the office of President is because he's Bat guano CRAZY and getting worse daily.


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