"2017 marked a year of tearing down consumer protections 'brick by brick"

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  1. archives

    archives Well-Known Member

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    "If you think the government has no business telling business its business, this has been a pretty great year."

    "If, on the other hand, you think government has a role to play in ensuring fair play by companies that have shown themselves to be guided almost exclusively by self-interest and a disregard for consumers and public welfare, this year has been nothing short of horrendous."

    "The Trump administration has been single-mindedly focused on getting rid of rules and regulations"

    "Trump’s rule-cutting appears motivated not by a desire to clean house but by a laser-like focus on padding the pockets of business."

    http://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-trump-deregulation-cfpb-20171231-story.html

    How long before the Martin Shkrelis of America take full advantage, can't think of the last time a corporation put consumer concerns above personal profit
     
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    Warning people not to operate a toaster while sitting in a bathtub filled with water is not consumer protection. It's idiocy.

    Less government! More freedom!
     
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    Has anyone ever actually read this required notification?

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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It’s preventing natural selection from doing it’s job actually.
     
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    Liberal government.

    Will force business to warn you that water contains water and that water is known to the state of California to cause cancer, but...

    ...will not let business warn its employees that it has hired a violent felon, child rapist, gang banger, etc.
     
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    And that is the best example you can come up with to serve as a generalization?

    Now tell us how dumping such as net neutrality, delaying fiduciary rules, ending class action lawsuits, limiting consumer protection boards, or reducing industrial pollution standards just to mention a few realities serve the general public
     
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    Consumer protection is a balancing act. We have been far to the left on this issue for so long. It's time to bring some sanity to regulation.
     
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    Of course right-wing socialists oppose regulations; it makes it harder for crooked business people, like Crooked Donnie, to have
    taxpayers, consumers, workers, and small business socialize their business costs.
     
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    Hey now, if you'd like your mattress stuffed with bedbugs and previously used material without notice, you may get your wish. :)
     
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    AFAIK, most if not all of the regulations hes killed were from Obama. Many of his regulations were over reach and already being fought in the courts.
     
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    This about sums it up.
     
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    Nonsense. Look at the ****ing news. Apple intentionally slowing devices? And that's just one example.

    I'm sorry, but a company needs to act with ****ing ethics, not to mention, should have to prove its product's safety and viability before it should be allowed to sell.

    America is ****ed up. Companies can sell cancer causing **** endlessly as long as they have deep enough pockets for our "justice" system to ensure they aren't held liable.

    I am all for some fiscal responsibility but unleashing known criminals in our corporate sphere is not the right path. And no, It will never and has never "worked itself out." The republicans have been injected with laissez faire morons and it needs to end.
     
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    Most of the products we buy will state that the item you've purchased is known to cause birth defects to residents in the state of California... At what point will the libs there realize it's not the products they're buying, I wonder.
     
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    Both major parties are equally culpable, but yeah; good points. :)
     
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    But Apple are the good guys. They like gay marriage and all. They get a pass.
     
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    Bullshit. Corporations are fictitious entities, not people with opinions. They solely exist to make money for their shareholders.
     
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    If a company acts unethically, the marketplace will punish them. People will stop buying their products. We don't need the heavy hand of government to pick winners and losers. Let the people decide.
     
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    Like I said, that's not how it works. The injection of unfettered laissez faire is a failure and always will be.

    The government exists to solve collectively what we individually cannot solve.

    Your argument is a proven FRAUD.
     
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    I'll never understand how some people are fine with spending their hard earned money on things just to get screwed or manipulated and taken advantage of for profit. I guess thats capitalism in America. Do and screw whatever you can to win. Cause in Donnies world its all about winning.

    Anyone who votes to give up their own protections as consumers are complete fools.
     
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    One can take a hog, wash it clean, force it's mouth into a smile, put classy clothes on it, make it happy by telling it it has authority to do anything it wants, and give it an appealing name like Miss Consumer Financial Protection Agency, but it is still a hog.
     
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    No one is arguing for an "unfettered laissez faire" system.

    Conservatives want reasonable regulation. Sending the police to shut down an eight year old's lemonade stand is a gross example of the heavy hand of government. We don't need a police state to harass individuals or corporations.

    Your argument for a totalitarian state is a joke.
     
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    If that is what you want then we want the same thing.

    I want companies to prove the safety of their products before they sell them to the public, and then have deep enough pockets to ensure their continued use if they are proven unsafe, like the tobacco industry.

    I want clean water.

    If you want those things then why do you cheer on removal of regulations that protect consumers?
     
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    If you make a graph with productivity and economic growth on on axis and the degree of government intervention on the other axis it looks something like this. With zero government intervention, your unfettered laissez faire, economic advancement is also zero. If you add just a little government, like basic laws and broad general rules, economic advancement shoots up fast -- looks like an X to the 4th power curve -- and fast reaches its peak. Then as more government control is added it starts a long very slow reduction. Then after a while it starts to reduce faster until the graph finally approaches zero productivity again asymptotically. All of this is because the control of a large complex economy is beyond the capability of the government and they do more and more wrong things.
     
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    Beware. The Republicans love tearing down consumer protections right before a big economic storm.
     

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