292 MASS shootings so far this year in the United States

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  1. Capt Nice

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    Yeah, Obama had 32 in eight years. Trump has beat that in two and a half.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lets see that data...
     
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    If you’re going to use the numbers from this thread, then you need to use the same numbers from the same place for past years as well.

    According to the place this 292 number comes from, in 2014 there were 269 mass shootings, 2015 saw 335 mass shootings and 2016 saw 382 mass shootings.

    https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

    So no, Obama has well over 32(about 1000 in those three years alone) mass shootings if Trump has had 292 this year so far.

    So far they have decreased every year since Trump became president(down to 346 then 340). We shall see at the end of this year if that trend continues.
     
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    The fault is the 2nd Amendment.
     
  6. Sage3030

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    That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read.
     
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    Well....sure.

    And it is the fault of food that I am a bit overweight and alcohol's fault I drink.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suggest you maybe grasp the topic then.
     
  9. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Americans can't handle the right to own guns, the continued massacres is evidence of their ineptness.

    More guns = More gun deaths
     
  10. Sage3030

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    Oh I have a firm grasp of it.

    Your logic is as follows:

    The first amendment is responsible for people saying mean things.

    The 15th amendment is responsible for illegal voters.



    Neither are true or logical. The individual is responsible.
     
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    So the actions of a very few are a representation of the whole freaking country????? You obviously have no desire for anybody to take your seriously.
     
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    I’m not a constitutional expert and your question might best served if directed to one.

    I would venture to say that whatever “arms” meant when the constitution was written would be the best definition.

    I have an opinion and I believe you can purchase a “bazooka” if you have a license and/or tax stamp. Don’t know about possessing live bazooka rounds though.

    Being able to purchase a rifle or pistol (firearm) doesn’t require a license or tax stamp. Thinking firearms are considered arms. You thinking maybe swords too?
     
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    Only dogs can hear dog whistles. The hate directed at Trump and his supporters by this vocal minority on the Left beggars belief.

    Hollywood Film Depicts Trump Supporters Being Hunted for Sport by Liberals.

    The same ones who are now telling Trump supporters to give up their guns. Hmm. . . .

    “In the past few days we’ve been hearing a lot about how Donald Trump’s rhetoric is apparently to blame for the El Paso shooting, yet Hollywood apparently lacked the foresight to think that a movie promoting violence against ‘deplorables’ might be in bad taste until after the shootings in El Paso and Dayton, as only now is Universal rethinking their promotional strategy for the film.”​

    Leftists think that rhetoric leads to violence. That’s why they use that rhetoric themselves, and why they try to silence it in their opponents. Once you realize it’s not about decency, but about brutality in service of power, it all makes sense.
     
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    arms
    /ärmz/
    [​IMG]Learn to pronounce
    noun
    plural noun: arms
    1. 1.
      weapons and ammunition; armaments.
      "arms exports"
      synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
      "arms and ammunition"
    Pretty wide definition of weaponry.

    I think society/law already restricts some arms
     
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    No other country has the gun deaths we do. By civilians.
     
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    If we go by what "arms" meant at that time, then freedom of the press would also be limited to the "press" at the time it was written.
     
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    He had TOTAL control of government for 2 years, what gun control actions were taken? TOTAL control, WH and BOTH houses, what did he do?
     
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    double post, deleted
     
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    Your meme is BS, but that is to be expected when people who know little of guns, start discussing them. Look up 'big bore air guns, semi autos, BTW and the puckle gun".
     
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    WRONG.

    Obama DIDN'T have "Total Control".

    The notion that Obama had a "Senate Super-Majority for 2 YEARS" is a completely False Narrative.

    Here are the FACTS:

    President Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009 with just 58 Senators to support his agenda.

    He should have had 59, but Republicans contested Al Franken’s election in Minnesota and he didn’t get seated for seven months.

    The President’s cause was helped in April when Pennsylvania’s Republican Senator Arlen Specter switched parties.

    That gave the President 59 votes — still a vote shy of the super majority.

    But one month later, Democratic Senator Byrd of West Virginia was hospitalized and was basically out of commission.

    So while the President’s number on paper was 59 Senators — he was really working with just 58 Senators.

    Then in July, Minnesota Senator Al Franken was finally sworn in, giving President Obama the magic 60 — but only in theory, because Senator Byrd was still out.

    In August, Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died and the number went back down to 59 again until Paul Kirk temporarily filled Kennedy’s seat in September.

    Any pretense of a supermajority ended on February 4, 2010 when Republican Scott Brown was sworn into the seat Senator Kennedy once held.Do you see a two-year supermajority?

    I didn’t think so.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869


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    Thus, you have just repeated a Thoroughly Discredited RW BS Narrative.:bored:

    As far as the Topic of the OP:

    It is clear that the 292 number is fabricated to create a False Equivalency to placate the RW's Urgent Need for Confirmation Bias and Deflection.:bored:






     
  22. chris155au

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    LOL. So you thought that I was talking about black supremacist mass shootings? :roflol:
     
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    i get that. A judge, in a social setting, talked about the 2A being restricted to flintlocks. I asked if the right to free speech extended to computers, movies, television, radio etc. since that form of communication did not exist at the time the constitution was written.

    I wonder if “arms” means what the typical soldier or citizen would carry. That, would evolve with time as we’ve moved from rocks, clubs, arrows, swords and spears to firearms. I suspect the architects of the constitution would have expected advancements in all aspects of life.
     
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    Well the law has obviously interpreted it to mean 'not bazookas.' Thank God.
     
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    Sure, but that doesn't mean that "arms" includes every arms today.
     
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