31 Reasons why I won't take the injection

It looks like we agree mostly except on semantics then. I agree vaccines do not prevent pathogens from entering the body. But they do (to varying degrees depending on the vaccine) prevent virus from entering your cells (causing infection) and replicating. Thus, it’s impossible to have Covid if there is no infection.

As I wrote to the fine gentleman @Tigger2, I believe we should use the term “exposure” to denote what you termed “getting the virus”. I know many who are not sure about getting vaccinated who take that terminology (vaccines don’t keep you from getting the virus) to mean the vaccines don’t prevent infection. This makes them think it’s a waste of time.

I’m glad you are not one who denies sterilizing immunity. I’m glad we both just want people to know the truth. There have been way too many lies and dis/misinformation campaigns in this pandemic already!

 

Yep. I’m worried some just can’t ever see the positives or let go of the negative. I hope things change for you there. There is much to be thankful for and happy about.

 

To me getting the virus means it has entered your blood stream and is attempting to infect cells. At that point either the immune system wins or the virus does. Conversely if this wasn't the case and the virus never got to the blood stream then the vaccine would be pointless.

 

As I stated earlier, I have not and will not get the vaccine.

I don't care who else gets it, I will not.

I am not an anti-vaxxer, I just will not get this one.

 

Yes, they will claim all kinds of things. Again, no vaccine exists that doesn’t have breakthrough infections. But as @Tigger2 points out we don’t not use something because it doesn’t work 100% of the time. I’m afraid true anti vaxxers are unreachable. All we can do is educate the open minded.

Actually these Covid vaccines are much better at preventing infection and disease than influenza vaccines. These keep most people from being infected at all. They prevent even asymptomatic infections.

Absolutely. When the majority of people are never infected it cuts down on symptomatic and asymptomatic infections.

 

Most people who are infected with SARS-CoV-2 never have viable virus in their bloodstream. If they do develop systemic infection resulting in virus in the bloodstream it’s usually long (days) after initial infection and associated with hospitalization.

Infection initially occurs in the upper respiratory system, mainly in mucosal membranes of the nasal passages or sinuses.

Because the mRNA vaccines do not directly induce antibody production (IgA antibodies) in mucosa it was feared they would not be able to prevent colonization of nasopharyngeal mucosal membranes. Fortunately the evidence now all points to prevention of infection in mucosal cells. Here’s one small study that was specifically done to examine this issue.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8011028/#!po=3.84615

The CDC study I linked earlier is similar and more robust in some ways excluding potential viral loads the subjects were exposed to. The subjects in this study were exposed to more virus on average than subjects in the the CDC study.

So at the end of the day, these vaccines are preventing more infections than we expected them to. Virus is entering nasopharyngeal passages, failing to infect cells, and being expelled from the body just like the dust mite poop we breathe in all night from our pillows.

 

The article in question can be summed up as follows:

Science is hard to understand.
I am afraid of what I don't understand.
I will make up stuff that I can understand so that I'm not as scared.
I will tell everyone my made up stuff is real to show how smart I am.

 

Agreed, my fault for short cutting out all of that in the name of brevity. Perhaps I should have said when the virus begins to multiply inside the body.

 

I know of one man who died quickly from the shot, and I know of 2 women whose menstrual cycles were changed very much for the worse, and 1 young woman who miscarried after the shot.

Thus your rose-colored glasses don't work on me. The injections are dangerous experimental drugs. Those taking them are test subjects for shots never used on humans before, issued under EUA.

 

Point taken. But reasonableness is hardly seeing thru rose colored glasses. Ironically, during all drug trials, people given placebos suffer many of the same side effects as those taking the actual drug. In short, people have issues as a side of effect of being human beings.

 

I do appreciate your reasonable and courteous response. This is rational public dialogue!

No such tests were done on these injections. That is one of many reasons why these were issued under EUA.

They've been trying for many decades to develop a vaccine for coronavirus. None have worked. All the animal tests had the critters being killed. The only animal tests done on this one were on rats, and in those the pregnant rats all miscarried.

Sherri Tenpenny alluded to a recent series of tests and data gathering with these shots. Of 107 women pregnant in their first trimester, 96 of them miscarried.

The large numbers of people becoming infected after they had been 'vaccinated' show the shots to not work very well. Breakthrough cases they call them.

IMO it is absurd and foolish to take such a dangerous experimental drug to supposedly protect against a virus with a 99% survival rate.

 

I've lived long enough to have learned that most people know what's best for them. So I support your hesitation for your list of reasons. My Wife is also scared to get a shot because of her severe allergies. So we are holding off even though I am not concerned about side effects for me personally.

 

Of course, the Tenpenny doctor of course only 'alluded' to something she tries to say that 86% of women in the first trimester from COVID vaccine (her literature seems to "allude' to ANY vaccine of any kind has similar negative effects!)!

The anti-vaxers like Tenpenny and her associated hacks like this maybe why so many don't work with medical insurance and other practices that may find anything that find the dangerous or dicey health practices.

 

Except when the only vaccine you have access to is the very one which kills people via blood clots.

 

I'm glad you are honoring your wife's cautious approach.

Consider this toxin in the Moderna shot: Shocker: Why Is This Substance in the Moderna Covid Vaccine? - LewRockwell

 

The success you had with Covid compared to the apparent lack of ability to secure, manufacture, or administer vaccines is enigmatic. They say you will get some Phizer. Is that still the plan or does anyone know?

 

Yes, it's ironic in a very frustrating way!

But it's not that we don't have plenty of vaccine .. on the contrary, we have millions of doses going unused. The problem is that we bought the dud, and now no one under 70 wants it.

Meantime we do have a little of the Pfizer, but only those under 50 can get it. They've decided that the Clotter is too dangerous so they're restricting it to 'the old'. Govt can afford to lose the old folks, but not the young. Which means that most healthy people in their 50's (including me!) are going to wait for the Pfizer to become widely available.

 

Thanks for the update. Glad some Phizer is available. Hope you all stay safe until you get vaccination ramped up.