6 Swing States. Trump is Winning 5

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  1. TheImmortal

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...tleground-states-voters-cringe-biden-age-poll

    Trump leads Biden by a whopping 10 points in Nevada, six points in Georgia, five points in both Arizona and Michigan, and four points in Pennsylvania. Biden's sole lead is in Wisconsin, where he beats Trump by two points.

    Biden had defeated Trump in all six states during the 2020 election. Combining the polling in all six states gives Trump a 48-44 lead over Biden.

    The NYT-Siena College poll surveyed 3,662 registered voters in the six states from Oct. 22 to Nov. 3

    I hope y’all are ready for 2024. Cause trumps numbers keep rising and your boys keeps falling. Granted there’s plenty of time between now and Nov 2024 but I don’t see anything that’s going to change that momentum. Maybe another criminal case? Lol

    Y’all better pray Joe pulls out due to health reasons and Kamala doesn’t want it lol The left and all those politicians who have weaponized the legal system against him better pray. Because it’s going to be his turn to weaponize the legal system against them and this time he doesn’t have to worry about reelection. It’s going to be glorious watching the left lose their collective minds and refuse to transition power to trump peacefully.
     
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  2. Shutcie

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    I still think that both Trump and Biden will be off the ballot for 2024.
    When, exactly, they will be off will probably decide who our next president is.

    So far democrats haven't shown much interest in finding an alternative.
    The republicans have a wide field to choose from, with DeSantis, Haley and Christie in the front at this point.

    If Trump drops (or is pushed out) early on the race will be a free for all among DeSantis, Haley and Christie. I'm putting my faith in Haley. If later, it will probably fall to whoever has the lead at that point.

    The later Biden drops the harder democrats will have it, trying to field a credible candidate.
     
  3. Independent4ever

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    Weird - so many on the left keep saying that Trump has no chance. Reality is not something that they believe in

    Lots of ifs, but if Trump wins, if the GOP holds onto the House and if they win the Senate - the filibuster will be eliminated - and every single Trump/GOP policy will get pushed through and so much of what the libs care about will be eliminated.

    Too bad they are more concerned about defending and rationalizing the Brandon polices and corruption to realize that all the "battles" they won will become meaningless when they lose the "war"
     
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    Its probably a moot point since Biden is unlikely to be on the ballot, and even Trump is doubtful.

    He would need independent support, and he doesn't have it.

    Yes, and I think Haley will end up on top.
     
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  5. Independent4ever

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    Biden is disliked by too many independents. Not about Trump having support - it's about him gaining Anti-Biden votes

    Trump will be the nominee and there is still no reason to believe that Biden will drop out. Though I the NYT releasing these poll #s is an attempt by the left to pressure him to do so
     
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    Trump will be the republican nominee, unless democrats can manage to invalidate/eliminate him. Trump will beat Biden if they go head to head. "If you can't beat them, JAIL them!" will be democrats unofficial campaign slogan.

    Personally, I think the democrats will succeed in eliminating candidate Trump, one way or another. And, I think Biden will drop out either by his own choice, or will be pushed out by his party just in time for Newsome or someone else to step in. I don't think Harris will get the nod, which will cause an entertaining kerfuffle.

    No matter what, this is going to be an entertaining/horrifying election.
     
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    Trump has several problems.
    First, he's got so much legal baggage that if the cases aren't solved, or close to solved, by the time of the convention, he stands a good chance of being rejected on the basis that he won't be able to run.
    Second, his presence on the ballot is being challenged in several states. Even though these are bogus liberal hail Mary attempts, by the time they get through the appeals process Trump may be kept off of enough state ballots that even if he is the nominee, and even if he does have popular support, he can't get enough electoral votes to win.
    Third, the alternatives, like DeSantis and Haley are close enough to Trump's platform that many who would have voted for Trump based on his platform now have viable alternatives, with the bonus that they are more likeable, and don't have Trump's baggage.

    In any case, it would be nice for once to vote FOR a candidate rather than AGAINST the other one.
     
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    LOL. Biden won only because people cant stand Trump and voted against him, not for Biden. Nothing has changed in that regard, and Trump has done nothing to make himself look any better. He has spent three years whining about it.
     
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    Other than the polls and reality disagreeing with you - good point
     
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    I guess people don't learn from their mistakes......People will vote against him again, and we'll never hear the end of all the crying, whining and conspiracies.
     
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    It's the only hope democrats have for 2024. Their man has zero hope against anyone else.
     
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    RE: this poll; I, as a diehard MAGA Trumper, can't take this poll seriously. There's no way in hell that Trump is "up 10 in Nevada" yet "down 2 in Wisconsin". I do, however, believe that, given a free and fair election, Trump would win all six of these States, some rather handily.

    Well, let's remember that Biden only "won" in 2020 due to election fraud in all six of these States, and now yet even more people support Trump and are willing to turn out for him than did in 2020.

    Haha, yup... the criminal cases are only helping Trump (by the far-left extremists inadvertently causing him to be portrayed as a martyr).

    A part of me will find it glorious because they deserve it. A part of me knows that there's going to be a lot of far-left extremist-caused violence and destruction as a result of it. They kept accusing Trump of "not being willing to transition power peacefully", so you know full well that they won't peacefully transition power over to Trump in 2024... They will probably come up with some excuse, probably related to war, in order to illegally retain power.
     
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    IMPOSSIBLE to give that poll any credibility because NOWHERE does it explain the METHODOLOGY of the polling.

    What PERCENTAGE of LANDLINES versus CELL PHONES were used to contact those polled?

    We already KNOW that Cell Phone users IGNORE pollsters whereas landline owners are LONELY old people just waiting for someone to talk to for a few minutes.

    We just HAD the ONLY poll that MATTERS last Tuesday and those Xtofascists ENDORSED by Inmate P01355809 did NOT do well, even in RED states.

    FTR that is CONSISTENT since 2018, your TRAITOR-in-Chief is a LOSER when it comes to ELECTIONS, bigly loser!
     
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    No one on their right mind would want four more years of Biden. If Trump is the pits, Biden is a black hole that destroys everything it touches … except the fortune Hunter has collected for him.
     
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    It's a thin line. There are a lot of mainline Republicans who are fiercely loyal to Trump. If he's not the nominee, they might not vote. Trump, however, is a huge negative when it comes to independent voters. Just look at Georgia last year. Brian Kemp did a great job of toeing that line and won the governorship in a landslide. Herschel Walker did a poor job and lost.
     
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    Of course they will vote. They are the same people who voted for Bushes, Romney, McCain and anyone else with a 'R' behind their name, who they now call all kinds of names.
     
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    a good message to dems to get out and vote in swing States, unless they want Trump to win
     
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    Thank you hillary.
    You opened the door and now the pundits can talk all day about the "unwashed, stupid" voters handing the country over to (fill in with other candidates name).
    We no longer have to face the idea that our man(woman) lost because they didn't deserve to win.
     
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    You can count me as one of 'em.

    I've been a voter (if my vote is actually counted or counted correctly) since the Tea Party wave in 2010, and I have always voted straight Republican no matter how much I liked or disliked the Republican candidate, until now. E.g., I voted for Romney in 2012 and for Trump in 2016 and 2020.

    Nowadays, I am sick and tired of Republicans being feckless and otherwise useless. I am sick and tired of Republicans being Uniparty hacks, simply "playing the part" of opposition yet allowing the Democrats' destructive 'power trip' agenda to advance all the same so long as the "cocktail club" "professionally Republican" still get theirs (money) at the end of the day. When is the last time that they've actually conserved anything or done anything beneficial for the commoner?

    Therefore, I am now a MAGA voter. I will vote for the MAGA candidate on the ballot, NOT the "professionally Republican" one. That means that, for 2024 President, I will be voting for Trump and ONLY Trump. Any other candidate is a Uniparty win in my book, regardless of the generic brand labeling (R) or the name brand labeling (D) for the product of elitism. I want a different product, not the same old crap just with different labeling. Enter MAGA. MAGA is what I want.

    2024 = Trump or bust. Since Republicans don’t care whether or not I win, why should I care whether or not THEY win? The end result (destruction of this nation) is the same.

    This is the absolute biggest lie that people keep peddling.

    Trump has formed a coalition of working class voters that the “professionally Republican” can only DREAM of. Trump has black support, Hispanic support, young adult support, and urban support higher than any other Republican candidate could ever DREAM of, and those votes are needed for a Republican to win. Without Trump on the ballot, those “newly Republican” votes all go back to Democrats, third parties, and staying at home.

    If Republicans actually wanted to win, they would be coalescing behind Trump and using their funding to build up massive ballot harvesting operations (and early voting “get out the vote” operations). They’d also be, more importantly, building up massive voter registration operations, reaching out to the massive swath of ‘potential Trump voters’ who simply don’t vote in elections for whatever reason. Contact those people, get them to register if they aren’t already, and get them to turn out for Trump. However, Republicans aren’t in it to win. They are in it to maintain their elitist status quo, which Trump (and MAGA) threatens.

    Nope. Georgia politics is corrupt as all hell and is not a good example of anything. Governor races (state level) are also not at all comparable to or predictive of Senate races (federal level). Two completely different animals, different electorates, etc.
     
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    Shooter decided over a decade ago that political party had little to do with the candidates qualifications or what motivated them.
    Eventually it occurred to him that most politicians end up taking care of their business, not ours and end up being corrupt crooks. But there are exceptions so term limits isn't the answer.

    He decided that we could look at a politicians net worth when they come into office, then look at their net worth when they run for reelection. If they've done better than the average, ask them why. Vote accordingly.

    Nancy (Antoinette) Pelosi is a case in point.

    She quit taking care of our business and started taking care of her business along about her second term, and she's never looked back. She is the poster child for insider trading. Hunters Point should have been as big a scandal as the Teapot Dome thingy, but her machine is so well tuned that we hardly hear a peep about it.

    We send these people to Congress to take care of our business. They end up taking care of their business, and that in my opinion does more to explain the mess we are in today than pollical party or political agendas.
     
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    Does any of these matters ? DEMS will harvest vote, ask undocumented to vote, stuff ballots , 20,0000 mules will go ballot box to ballot box and stuff ballot for Biden. Bring suitcase full of ballot in precinct, change voting machine and change the number.

    No one cares in DNC what polls says. DNC already working on the best voter fraud money can buy!
     
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    Sounds like the next red wave........:)!
     
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    I think Biden will struggle. I just pray the GOP somehow finds another nominee than Trump.
     
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    The GOP can't win without Trump. Too many people like me simply won't show up (or show up to write in Trump's name). Oh, and Wisconsin is a pivotal State, right? Trump is the only candidate who gets my vote. All others can shove it up their ass.
     
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    Trump was on the ballot in 2020 and he lost. Including in Wisconsin.
     

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