68 Years of the Palestinian Ongoing Nakba!

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  1. SamSkwamch

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    I am sure our revisionists here won't want to deal with any the obvious truth. That said, it is important to understand the actual history. It is also important to understand how twisted these folks truly are.

    With that said, enjoy:

    Nakba, in Arabic, simply means, Catastrophe, or Tragedy; for Palestinians, it is the most tragic nightmare to happen to a whole nation in modern history.

    The irony is that while Palestinian commemorating the 68th anniversary of their Catastrophe, the Palestinian exodus, Israelis celebrate what they call “independence day”....

    Over 750.000 citizens were forced out of their homes, at least 450 cities, towns and villages were evacuated, dozens of towns and villages were demolished and more than 24 massacres were committed against innocent people. Thousands of people were killed.
    http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2016/05/57368/
     
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    Origin of a People

    http://www.factualisrael.com/origin-people-palestinians/

    Palestinians are the newest of all the people on the face of the earth, and began to exist in a single day it is unique in the whole history of mankind as it is witness by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledges the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

    “Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?” “We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule.”

    “The teachings of the destruction of Israel were a definite part of the curriculum, but we consider ourselves Jordanian until the Jews return to Jerusalem. Then all the sudden we were Palestinians, they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.

    “When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out.”

    “Indeed, there is no such thing as like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history.”
    There has never been any Palestinian state neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day “Palestinians” are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They were called Jordanians (British invention, as there has never been any people known as “Jordanians”), and after the 6 day war in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions decided upon the creation of a fifth column population, the creation of the Palestinian people.

    To justify their claim to Judea, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited The Promised Land: the Canaanites and the Philistines.

    The Canaanites are historically acknowledged as the first inhabitants of the Land, before the Hebrews settled there. The correct geographic name of the Land of Judea is Canaan, not “Palestine”. They were composed by different tribes that may be distinguished in two main groups: the Northern or Coastland Canaanites and Southern or Mountain Canaanites.

    The Northern Canaanites settled along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea from the southeastern side of the Gulf of Iskenderun to the proximities of the Gulf of Haifa. Their main cities were Tzur, Tzidon, Gebal(Byblos), Arvad, Ugarit, and are better known in history by their Greek name Phoenicians, but they called themselves “Kana’ana” or “Kinachnu”. They did not found any unified kingdom but were organized in self-ruled cities. Their language was adopted from their Semitic neighbours, the Arameans, and was closely related to Hebrew (not Arabic).

    So similar were the languages that Phoenicians and Israelites did not need interpreters to understand each other. They followed the same destiny as Israel and fell under Assyrian rule, then Babylonian, Persian, Macedonian, Seleucian and Roman. Throughout history the Phoenicians intermarried with different peoples. During the Islamic expansion they were arabized, yet, never completely assimilated, and their present-day state is Lebanon, erroneously regarded as an “Arab” country, a label that the Lebanese people reject. The only mention of the term Arabic in the Lebanese constitution refers to the official language of the state which does not mean that the Lebanese people are Arabs in the same way. The official language of the United States is English but this does not qualify the Americans as British.

    The so-called Palestinians are not Lebanese (although some of them came from Syrian-occupied Lebanon), therefore they are not Phoenicians(Northern Canaanites), they are despised in Lebanon as “refugees”.

    The Southern Canaanites dwelled in the Mountain region from the Golan southwards, on both sides of the Yarden(Joran) and along the Mediterranean coast from the Gulf of Haifa to Yafo. They were composed by various tribes of different socks: besides the proper Canaanites (Phoenicians). Amorites, Hittites and Hurrian peoples like the Yevusites, Hivvites and Horites, all of them never constituted an unified, organized state but kept within the tribal alliance system.

    When the first Hebrews arrived in Canaan they shared the land but did not intermarry due to a ban on exogamy. Nevertheless, eleven of the twelve tribes inter-married with Canaanite woman(Joseph married an Egyptian), and since then, the Tribes began to mix with the local inhabitants.

    After the Exodus, when the Israelites conquered the Land, there were some wars between the Canaanites throughout the period of (Judges). Canaanites are seldom mentioned during the King’s period, usually in reference to their heathen customs introduced among the Israelites, as a good portion was already assimilated.

    When the Assyrians overran the Kingdom of Israel, they did not leave any Canaanite aside. The same happened when the Babylonians overthrew the Kingdom of Judah. Therefore, the only people that can trace back a lineage to the ancient Canaanites are the Judeans, not the Palestinians, as Canaanites did not exist any longer after the 8th century BCE.

    It is from the term “Philistines” that the name “Palestinians” has been taken, and the only similarity between both is that they are both invaders from distant lands. That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective. Peleshet, from the verb “pelesh”, “dividers”, “penetrators” or “invaders”.

    The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor also known as the Sea Peoples. The main tribes were Tzekelesh, Shardana, Akhaiusha, Danauna, Tzakara, Masa or Meshwesh, Lukki, Dardana, Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Labu and Irven.

    The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the “Pelesati”, was the Island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took over control of the island. These ancient Cretans arrived in Southern Canaan and were known as “Pelestim” and “Keretim” by Hebrews and Canaanites. Their first settlement seems to have been Gaza, whose original name was “Minoah”, a clear reference to the fallen Minoic kingdom. They also invaded Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Ramose 3 in the 12th century BCE. Philistine was organized in city-states, being the most important the Pentepolis: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron. Their territory was close to the Mediterranean coast, a little longer and broader than the present-day “Gaza Strip” not the whole Judah, they never reached Hevron, Jerusalem or Jericho.Those Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt were expelled towards other Mediterranean lands and did not evolve into any Arab people but disappeared as distinguishable groups in Roman times. Those dwelling in Canaan were defeated by King David and reduced to insignificance. The remaining Philistines still dwelling in Gaza were subdued by Sargon 2 of Assyria and after that time, they disappeared from history, they are no longer mentioned since the return of the Judean exiles from Babylon.

    There is not one single person in the world who may be able to prove Philistine lineage, and if the Palestinians are truly Philistine, then their true homeland would be the island of Crete, not Judea or Samaria.

    So why is Judea now called Palestine?

    In the 2nd century CE, the last stand of the remnants of the Judea against the Roman Empire ended with the well known event of the Siege of Masada. The Land where these things happened was until then the province known as Judea, and there is no mention of any place called “Palestine” before this time. Roman Emperor Hadrian was utterly upset with the Judean Nation and wanted to erase the name of Judah from the face of the earth so that there would be no memory of the country that belonged to that rebel people. He decided to replace the denomination of that Roman province and resorted to ancient history in order to find a name that might appear appropriate, and found out that an extinct people that was unknown in Roman times, called “Philistines”. Therefore according to Latin spelling he invented the new name “Palaestina”, a name that would be also hateful. He did so with explicit purpose of effacing any trace of Judean history. In fact the name “Falastin” that Arabs today use for “Palestine” is not an Arabic name, but adopted and adapted from the Latin Palaestina.

    How can an Arab people have a Western name instead of one in their own language?

    Because the use of the term Palestinian for an Arab group is only a modern political creation without any historic or ethnic ground.

    -Joseph Farah, “Myths of the Middle East”-

    “There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians, Syrian, Iraqi, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that’s too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today… no matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.”

    -Auni Vey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937-

    “There is no such country as Palestine. Palestine is a term the Zionist invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. Palestine is alien to us.

    -Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946-

    “There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.”

    -Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956-

    “It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria.”

    Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:

    “The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 655 CE hardly lasted, as such, 22 years.”

    – Zuheir Muhsin, late Military Department head of the PLO and member of its Executive Council (Dutch daily Trouw, March 1977)-

    “There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity…. yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel.”

    -Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat-

    “You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian People, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people.”

    But with the news of a two state solution we must ask ourselves how long have the invaders been in the land?

    According to the United Nations weird standards, any person that spent TWO YEARS in Palestine before 1948, with or without proof, is a “Palestinian”, as well as all the descendants of that person.

    Before then, the Promised Land was utterly desolate.

    -Mark Twain, “The Innocents Abroad”, 1867-

    There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent [valley of Jezreel] — not for 30 miles in either direction… One may ride ten miles hereabouts and not see ten human beings. … For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to Galilee … Nazareth is forlorn … Jericho lies a moldering ruin … Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation… untenanted by any living creature… A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds … a silent, mournful expanse … a desolation … We never saw a human being on the whole route … Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil had almost deserted the country…

    -Gunner Edward Webbe, Palestine Exploration Fund-

    “Nothing there is to be scene but a little of the old walls, which is yet remaining and all the rest is grass, moss and weeds much like to a piece of rank or moist ground.”

    -Count Constantine Francois Volney, XVIII century French author and historian-

    “Palestine is a ruined and desolate land.”

    -The report of the British Royal Commission, 1913-

    “The area was under populated and remained economically stagnant until the arrival of the first Zionist pioneers in the 1880′s, who came to rebuild the Jewish land. The country had remained “The Holy Land” in the religious and historic consciousness of mankind, which associated it with the Bible and the history of the Jewish people. Jewish development of the country also attracted large numbers of other immigrants – both Jewish and Arab. The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts… Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen… The plows used were of wood… The yields were very poor… Schools did not exist… The rate of infant mortality was very high… The western part, toward the sea, was almost a desert… Many ruins were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants.”

    Perhaps the biggest lie that is being promoted is that the “Palestinian refugees” issue: the allegedly “native” population that was “evicted” by Israelis.

    Actually, in 1948 the so-called refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders, who promised to purge the land of Jews. Almost 70 percent of them left without having ever seen a single Israeli soldier.

    So what does it all mean?

    The Palestinian “State” is a recent social construct created by Arab peoples (possibly Arab Brotherhood) as a military/political system for the purpose of deflecting attention away from the serious social issues plaguing their poorly run countries or to set up the world for a conflict like the kinds ever seen before.

    Perhaps you did not know, now you know.
     
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    It amazing what people will believe to ease a guilty conscience.
     
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    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Because you cannot discuss this intelligently or even honestly for that matter, you post a bunch of insane propaganda that cannot be backed up.

    Nice try though.
     
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    Everything can be substantiated, everything can be proven, everything can be backed up... the thing that we cannot do is to stop the brainwash from <the crib to maturity>... So live in a fantasy, so live in a dream world that you and yours believe i.e the 72 virgins and boys like pearls in Muslim Paradise... this will get you killed... it is very funny that those that send you on these missions will never dare do it to themselves.
     
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    And 48 years since a Palestinian Terrorist murdered RFK.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow! After this in your series of strident load of "Factually challenged" & Hate - filled Ziono-Zaniness, I hope you'll stop scolding ME for Posting a "Wall of Text"

    I took a look at the Home Page of the Hasbara fueled "Source" you just off-loaded & it made "Storm Front" look Ethnically sympathetic by comparison.

    Re: What we now "know"
    is that Israel's Zionist network of paid, trained, full time, State supported Hasbara "Advocates" are getting increasingly desperate to excuse the Israeli Government's Ethnic Cleansing Solution.

    No one who has enough interest or knowledge of Levantine realities read or will read the blatant, racist nonsense you off-loaded.

    What we know from sane & rational sources is that:

    1. Of the 38 Zionists / Jews who signed Israel's Declaration in 1948, only ONE was a Native of the Region. Most of the rest were Zionist Terrorists, Mass Murders & European Colonists.



    2. Jews comprised only a tiny percentage of Palestine's population until the massive influx of Foreign Jewish immigrants beginning in the very late 1800s.

    After decades of Zionist terrorist gangs & Jewish Colonists swarmed into Palestine for "Free Land", they still comprised a tiny fraction of Palestine's predominant Arab population according to the first, most accurate "Census & Survey" by the British in 1922:


    &#8220;1922 census of Palestine&#8221;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1922_census_of_Palestine

    EXCERPT" The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922.[1]
    The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality. The division into religious groups was
    590,390 Muslims,
    83,694 Jews,
    73,024 Christians,
    7,028 Druze,
    808 Sikhs,
    265 Bahais,
    156 Metawalis, and
    163 Samaritans. CONTINUED


    3. What we know is that the German Zionist Federation which worked closely with the Nazi Party is responsible for the funding & training of Haganah (aka IDF) & the settling of Palestine as a Zionist - Nazi Colony.


    &#8220;The Zionist-Nazi Collaboration&#8221;
    http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/07/the-zionist-nazi-collaboration/

    EXCERPTS &#8220;The Zionists......rather than opposing anti-Semitism in the first half of the 20th century, the Zionists found common cause with Hitler, Eichmann, and the Nazis and used anti-Semitism and Nazism as a means of achieving their end which was the establishment of a Jewish state.
    The Zionists&#8217; use of Nazism involved, among other things, the blocking of avenues of escape to other countries of Europe&#8217;s Jews and diverting them to Palestine.....
    The rise of Nazism and Hitler to power was never, or almost never, opposed by the Zionists prior to the establishment of Israel.
    CONTINUED


    AND


    &#8220;Nazis SS Funded Nascent Israeli Army&#8221;
    http://www.henrymakow.com/israeli_haganah.html

    EXCERPT &#8220;In his 1988 book "Blowback," Christopher Simpson says captured SS records documented a covert agreement between the SS and the Haganah, the forerunner of the Israeli Defense Force."CONTINUED


    4. What we know is that the more ethical Waffen SS trained Zionist Terrorists who committed massacres & atrocities meeting or exceeding anything done in Europe during WW 1 or WW 2.

    The following is an accurate description of the IDF based on the enormities of Nakba massacres:


    &#8220;They didn&#8217;t know how to fight, but as murderers they were pretty good.&#8221; ( anonymous colonel in the Israeli army)


    The following is an account of just one of many Massacres as related by British interrogating officer, Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling



    &#8220;They used to enter houses and kill women and children indiscriminately&#8221;: Deir Yasin Massacre,(*)09.04.1948

    http://avoicefrompalestine.wordpres...-forget-deir-yasin-massacre-09-04-1948/#_ftn3

    "A chilling account of the massacre is given by a Red Cross doctor (Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling, who arrived at the village on the second day and saw himself &#8211; the mopping up &#8211; as one of the terrorists put it to him.

    He says that the &#8220;mopping up&#8221; had been done with machine guns, then grenades and finished off with knives.

    Women&#8217;s bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the hands of their helpless mothers.

    Around 250 people were murdered in cold blood.

    Of those 250 people, 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in their abdomens while still alive.

    52 children were maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and they were slain and their heads cut off.

    Their mothers were in turn massacred and their bodies mutilated. About 60 other women and girls were also killed and their bodies mutilated.

    British interrogating officer, Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling, confirmed that:

    &#8220;The recording of statements is hampered also by the hysterical state of the women who often break down many times whilst the statement is being recorded.

    There is, however, no doubt that many sexual atrocities were committed by the attacking Jews.

    Many young schoolgirls were raped and later slaughtered. Old women were also molested.

    One story is current concerning a case in which a young girl was literally torn in two.

    Many infants were also butchered and killed.

    I also saw one old woman &#8230; who had been severely beaten about the head with rifle butts.

    Women had bracelets torn from their arms and rings from their fingers and parts of some of the women&#8217;s ears were severed in order to remove earrings.&#8221;CONTINUED


    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _


    While the systematic extermination of Palestine's Native, non Jewish residents continues today with an equally ruthless fervor via IDF's more insidious routine arial bombings aka Mass Murder from safely above, and Israel's quiet, experimental WMDs on civilian populations (i.e. Internationally Banned Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U., Chemical ordinance and D.I.M.E. bombs) that are intended to not only kill existing civilians but also ensure birth deaths & the deaths of future generations the world does little or nothing to stop this neo-holocaust.

    Instead, the Theocratic, Zionist State funds, trains & provides scripts & propagandistic fodder for its multi-thousand Army of Hasbara hirelings to rationalize Genocide by pretending that "there are no Palestinians"

    For Example:


    Debunking Pro-Israel Propaganda&#8221;
    http://www.mintpressnews.com/debunking-pro-israel-propaganda/207969/

    EXCERPTS &#8220;No matter what spin the media or political figures attempt to place on the situation, the fact is that Israel is actively engaging in an ethnic cleansing campaign.

    1....


    2. &#8220;Nobody self-identified as Palestinian until after 1948.&#8221;: This is sometimes said as &#8220;There&#8217;s no such thing as a Palestinian.&#8221; The people that make up the group we know as &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; today were members of separate tribes, clans, or groups. They were not unified. It took genocide to unify them.

    The premise that because not many identified themselves as &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; in 1948, it is ok to ignore their(*)human rights or that they don&#8217;t even exist is insane. It would be similar to saying &#8220;Because there was no tribe in the Americas called &#8216;indian,&#8217; they have no rights and do not exist.&#8221;
    No matter what name you wish to assign them, the indisputable fact is that at least 700,000 people were the victims of ethnic cleansing.CONTINUED


    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    Yes, I may be guilty of Posting a "wall of Text" but my intent is to stop Genocide, not rationalize its execution.
     
  8. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not true!!

    Some basic facts:

    Robert F. Kennedy shot in Los Angeles on June 5, 1968.

    - More bullets were fired in the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel than could have come from Sirhan Sirhan’s gun.

    - RFK was shot behind the right ear from about 1.5 inches, but Sirhan was never that close and always in front of him.

    - The coroner’s report did not support the Los Angeles’ Police Department’s assassination scenario.

    - The Los Angeles Police Department engaged in massive destruction of evidence from the pantry of the hotel because "it would not fit into a card file".


    http://www.voltairenet.org/article165721.html
     
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    It's been 44 yrs since the Palestinians massacred the athletes at the Munich Olympics.
     
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    Those kids are just playing. But what are these Israeli kids doing? That doesn't look like play to me.
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...0D13AE0FC6D9CE369EC70D13AE0FC6D9CE3&FORM=VIRE

    They are throwing big stones from their higher and fancy dwelling onto a Palestinian shack below!

    And here Israeli children with weapons...
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    Book review: how Israeli school textbooks teach kids to hate
    At the height of Israel’s brutal 2008-09 assault on the Gaza Strip, then-foreign minister Tzipi Livni claimed that “Palestinians teach their children to hate us and we teach love thy neighbor” .

    The first part of this myth is propagated by people like US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and more recently Newt Gingrich, who both spread the baseless claim that Palestinian schoolbooks teach anti-Semitism. This calumny originated with anti-Palestinian propagandandists such as Israeli settler Itamar Marcus and his “Palestinian Media Watch.”

    In an important new book, Palestine in Israeli School Books, Israeli language and education professor Nurit Peled-Elhanan buries the second part of Livni’s myth once and for all.
    Read on here:
    https://electronicintifada.net/cont...sraeli-school-textbooks-teach-kids-hate/11571
     
  12. Jazz

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    I guess you are right... e v e r y t h i n g! Even in Australia they know what is going on in Palestine!!

    Watch this documentary...

    Israelis torturing non-Jewish children.
    Australian documentary film.
    Viewer discretion. ​


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqL048x4msM
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    I actually have to ask, are those Israeli Zionists and Jews humans?
    How on Earth is it possible that the dumb Americans and just as dumb Europeans support such non-humans to carry on their despicable crimes??
    And then they have the nerve to defend their behavior by invoking God, saying "God gave us this land. There is nothing you can do!"

    Amen

    I hope, Mr. Bendor, you will watch your brethren in action.
     
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    Thanks for the brief, factual & salient information on the Zionist targeting of any Americans who hinder their influence over American opinion, unconditional US Government support of the Israeli Government's Ethnic Cleansing "Solution", & the Zionist Regional hegemony agenda.

    Of all the most dangerous, violent & extremist Terrorist organizations freely operating on American soil, the JDL, Mossad etc are the ones about which most Americans are most unaware.

    Why are Americans unaware of murderous, Zionist Extremists & America's prolific infestation of Hasbara disinformation agents of the Israeli Government?

    “Declassified Senate investigation files reveal clandestine Israeli PR campaign in America”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=20687
    EXCERPT: "It is frightening how easily some in the American news media surrendered to a foreign public relations campaign.
    Time has proven most of the planted content to be misleading, if not dangerous.(*) These historical documents hold many important lessons for Americans who have long needed, but rarely received, straight reporting on key Middle East issues.”
    CONTINUED


    Zionist domination over American news media was first brought to light by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1962 - 63 but has clearly succeeded in professionally deceiving a vast majority of Americans before & long since [1] into perceiving Israel to being a peace-seeking & reliable Ally & the Muslim World, German people etc into being natural & evil American enemies.

    Of all millions of TV, & Hollywood Movie villains representing countless Nationalities & Ethnic groups depicted in America's entertainment media, have you ever seen an Israeli or Zionist fictional villain featured?


    Both Robert & John F. Kennedy made the fatal mistake of trying to change US Government & Political subservience to Israel by working for an Equitable, Even-Handed Mid- East Policy that would have been in America's best interests, saved the US $ Trillions & countless thousands of American lives.


    Thankfully, the Internet has spawned many more balanced Independent News outlets that have brought:

    " ........many important lessons for Americans who have long needed, but rarely received, straight reporting on key Middle East issues.”[2]


    What better way to solidify a collective American public enmity against the same population Israel's Expansionist, Zionist Regimes have long worked to Ethnically Cleanse than to stage the assassination of a popular American figure by a "lone Palestinian Gunman". Yes, it was quite a Zionist P.R. Masterpiece.

    Unfortunately for the "Lone Palestinian Gunman", it turned out to be just another Zionist False Flag Op. like the Lavon Affair and countless ones thereafter via evidence cited in the previous Post submitted by "Jazz":

    1. "MEANS"

    2. "MOTIVE":

    “DOJ Files Prove President Kennedy & Robert Kennedy fighting Zionists When Murdered”
    http://www.targetfreedomusa.com/doj...bert-kennedy-fighting-zionists-when-murdered/

    EXCERPT “ Shocking DOJ Jewish Lobby case files released under a Freedom of Information Act show: President Kennedy & AG Robert Kennedy were fighting the Zionists When President Kennedy was Murdered.&#8232;by Nicky Nelson

    These fascinating historical documents were released on June 10, 2008 under a Freedom of Information Act filing. I have in bold critical information just prior to President Kennedy’s murder; click on the date to see the original documents.

    Keep in mind the dates that President John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy were murdered while reading these historical documents regarding their efforts to get the nefarious Jewish Lobby in America registered as Foreign Agents as is required by law; AZC (American Zionist Counsil) / AIPAC (The American Israeli Public Affairs Committee).

    Instead of the Kennedy brothers accomplishing this critical goal, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee AIPAC applied for a federal tax exemption in 1967 and the “Federal” Reserve’s criminal collection agency, the IRS aka the US Treasury Department grants it—backdated to 1953!!! Click here: 11/27/1967

    Congressman Donald Rumsfeld sent a letter to Robert F. Kennedy on behalf of the Zionists and status of AZC FARA registration on 07/15/1963. It appears Rumsfeld has been working on behalf of Israel and the Zionists his entire career and we know what a big help he was to Israel during 9/11 when 3,000 of our countrymen were burned alive in broad daylight.”CONTINUED


    3. "OPPORTUNITY":

    Little more need be said about the effectiveness of Israel's ruthless, Zionist assassination squads around the World than that cited in the Excerpt below:

    “Tourists with a License to Kill: A Look at the Mossad's Assassination Squads”
    http://www.spiegel.de/international...e-mossad-s-assassination-squads-a-678805.html
    EXCERPT “ Many intelligence agencies are suspected of carrying out assassinations, but few are as notorious for doing so as Israel's Mossad. Although the agency has become legendary for its amazing successes, it has still had its share of failures.”CONTINUED

    Also:

    With traitorous, Zionist, "Fifth Columnists" as highly placed as, then, Congressman Donald Rumsfeld so widely infesting the American Power Structure, it is certainly more likely to have been motivated & successful in killing RFK than the Organized Zionist Hit Squads that proliferate the most overwhelmingly generous & painfully gullible [1] unconditional supporter of the Genocidal, Expansionistic & insatiable Zionist State.


    I feel compelled to add that I do not include America's many ethical, loyal & courageous members of America's patriotic Jewish community as any of those among America's "traitorous, Zionist "Fifth Columnists"
    Some of the most eloquent & courageous opponents of Zionist / Israeli influence over US Foreign Policy & Wars for Israel [2] have been Jewish.


    The truth about the Kennedy assassinations and the countless other Israeli / Zionist betrayals is out there for those willing to accept that there is honest & credible information beyond the"....clandestine Israeli PR campaign in America”[3]




    [1] “What Do Israelis Think About Americans? Start With Disdain.”
    http://forward.com/articles/216074/...out-americans-start-with/?p=all#ixzz3U6lIMhyL

    EXCERPT “Jerusalem — Though Israel is a famously fractious society, Israelis tend to agree on one thing: Their strongest supporters are an inherently dupable people.
    “Most Israelis think Americans are pro-Israel and we can sell them anything, especially mud from the Dead Sea,”
    “Or — just regular mud with a ‘Dead Sea’ sticker on it.”

    An American might respond with the saying “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me,” and observe that this outlook, with deep roots in the American psyche, rebuts the Israeli stereotype of Americans as ever-trusting.
    But for many Israelis, the question is, why trust anyone even once?

    In a secretly recorded video of a 2001 discussion with a group of terror victims in the Ofra settlement in the Israeli occupied West Bank, now-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu laid out this widely held perception.

    “I know what America is,” Netanyahu, told the settlers. “America is a thing that can be easily moved, moved in the right direction.”
    The fact that Israelis see their benefactor as overly credulous also breeds resentment in some corners of Israeli society."CONTINUED




    [2] “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. ’03




    [3] “Declassified Senate investigation files reveal clandestine Israeli PR campaign in America”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=20687
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right at the end of this video the lady speaks of the issue which first opened my eyes to the situation of the Palestinians. Having been brought up with knowledge of the holocaust and to think of the situation of Israel as being just like people still describe it - Jews having endured the holocaust having this tiny little state and even here their neighbours want to destroy them and then those dastardly Palestinians were highjacking airlines, I really did not like them at all - and then one day I heard a member of our Parliament say about the situation in Northern Ireland something along the lines that there was no excuse for terrorism there, people belonged to the State, they had passports, they could vote, unlike the Palestinians who were Stateless. It did not change my opinion on NI but it certainly made me think again about the Palestinians - I realised I had not been given the whole story.

    [video=youtube;3BAuxPg1W-I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BAuxPg1W-I[/video]

    May these people soon find some justice so long denied.
     
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    Jerusalem belongs to the Jews.Next question?
    Why don't the Palestinians disperse to other countries? Oh that's right:Those people don't want them either.
    The dome of the rock is an abomination.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What was their reason to do that? Revenge for Palestinian massacres by Jews?
    I found an article on the story. A Palestinian has made a documentary film about it and would like to show it at the Cannes Film Festival...

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4797196,00.html
    Unfortunately, the Jews are blocking it...
     
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    Big hug! CU in the morning. :salute:
     
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    The Arab leaders and international press. at the time of the independece war say something completly different.
    Time Magazine, May 3, 1948, page 25:
    General John Glubb "Pasha," The London Daily Mail, August 12, 1948:
    Emile Ghoury, secretary of the Palestinian Arab Higher Committee, in an interview with the Beirut Telegraph September 6, 1948. (same appeared in The London Telegraph, August 1948 ):
    A book by Barry Shaw he qouted Near East Arabic broadcasting station, Cyprus, April 3, 1949:
    Haifa district HQ of the British Police, April 26, 1949:
    The Beirut Muslim Weekly "Kul-Shay", August 19, 1949:
    Khaled Al Azam, former Syrian prime minister, wrote in his book:
    Source: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/comments/22379
     
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    An article about suffering passing on down the ages and people unable to see the suffering of the other.

    http://972mag.com/nakba-day-attests-to-the-power-of-our-grandparents-stories/119359/

    (Picture of his yound grandad in 1946 at the beginning of link.
     
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    Americans have effectively been brainwashed by the Zionist controlled media.
    Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media
    The power of lies, deceptions, and disinformation as Americans pay the price of collective stupidity.

    “You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…”

    Read here:
    http://truedemocracy.net/hj33/13.html
    The real holocaust was suffered by the Germans:
    Die Alliierten quälten, ausgehungert, und vergewaltigten 12 Millionen Deutsche zu TODE nach dem Krieg bis in die 1950er Jahre. Der HOLOCAUST wurde erfunden um diese Verbrechen auszublenden! Die Deutschen sind geknebelt. WENN SIE SPRECHEN, gehen sie ins Gefängnis. Tausende von Deutschen werden verfolgt und ins Gefängnis gebracht jedes Jahr.
    The allies tortured, starved,and raped 12 million Germans to death after the war until into the 1950s.... The Germans are gagged. If they talk, they go to jail. Thousands of Germans are hunted and put into jail every year. Example... Ursula Haverbeck,
    http://carolynyeager.net/ursula-haverbeck-criminally-charged
    http://www.germanvictims.com/deutsche-seiten/
    No, I haven't, but then, I hardly watch TV.
    Wasn't JFK also going to take back the money printing? Didn't he already start something in that direction?
    Another reason I heard he had to go, was that he wanted to do away with the CIA, who was way to powerful and independent.
    For how much longer are the files of his assassination locked up?
    Indeed, it has! Without the internet we would still believe in Santa!
    The ultimate masterpiece has been 9/11, in my opinion.
    Nicky Nelson?? Who is that? Never heard that name before. Was that one of the CIA agents sitting in the front of the car?
    Where? What? The date is not clickable.
    I don't know much off hand, but do remember that Lyndon B. Johnson reversed everything Kennedy had tried to implement.
    He is a German from Bremen... I thought until now! But he was actually born and raised in the United States. Not my type!!!
    Almost more than a mouthful! I detect your journalistic writing skills, dear Grau!
    Anyway, let me just say that Rumsfeld "sleeps with the enemy" and probably gets paid for his services.
    Of course, you can't shear them all over the same comb!:wink:
    Here is a good site with picture, too:
    https://seektruthspreadtruth.wordpress.com/2014/04/11/jfk-the-cover-up/
    Ha ha... did you buy some?
    And Ariel Sharon said:
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    Well, the Jews wanted to destroy Saddam Hussein and his country, so they wouldn't have to fear hostility from him.
    Thanks to the Internet and dedicated people digging for the truth!
    A link from your link: http://www.israellobby.org/azc/default.asp
     

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