81% of Americans Oppose $38 Billion Pledge to Israel

Yeah the OPs quoted poll is flame bait I think as a whole many Americans are really more concerned with the home front social and economic issues versus our insistence on throwing our wallet at 30 other countries both economical and military problems.

So much aid is sent out but what real benefit does it do really to the peoples of those lands? Corrupt politicians and governments like say in Africa do God knows what with it. Don't even get me going on Egypt.

I feel that many countries that we provide aid too openly dislike us but they take our money easy enough. I personally would like to see us stop trying to bribe governments to play nice and let them figure out their own problems unless it's a humanitarian issue where we control distribution on the ground.

A good analogy is not long ago I saw a panhandler with a sign stating " I'm just hungry " so I bought him a meal from McDonald's nearby and brought it to him. As I was driving away in my rear view mirror? I saw him literally throw the food down in the street. He wanted cash and Ima thinkin it wasn't for food. Seems like our foreign " aid " is much the same

This Israel pledge to me smacks of little more than Obama trying to end his presidency on a solid note diplomatically with them since his administration including Clinton has failed miserably on almost all fronts in the foreign affairs Dept. It's a show of support

 

They asked for 50 billion over 10 years.

 

The Opening post, and alt/crap 'anti-war' it cites, are a lie and a fraud.

NOWHERE does the word "Oppose" appear in Poll question.
https://www.google.com/insights/con...ck6bg3vasel7nkfdzdwwy&question=1&filter=&rw=1
It's a Preference poll.
And Israel is among the top 4 (17%), with NONE above 21%.

How about Claiming "83% of Americans OPPOSE Oak Trees" as the title line for this poll:

"Which would your Prefer to Spend money on?"
a. Maple Trees 21%
b. Pine Trees 19%
c. OAK trees 17%
d. Chestnut trees 15%
e. Elm Trees 10%
f. other 5%​

It's a dishonest way of putting one cause in with many others people may like, to make any/one appear less popular.
The poll does Not Ask: "Aid"/"No Aid".
There is No "Oppose."

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Obviously, there is a group that is extremely pissed off by the fact that Americans are finally waking to this insanity.

 

all the money is being spent on American weapons and supplies.

which means ALL the money is going into the American economy.

 

So? I don't see why a first world country like israel needs charity.

 

I haven't yet met a Jew I didn't like, and I regularly vote Jerry Lewis's "the Nutty Professor" as the funniest film of all time in polls, but I can't understand why America has been propping up Israel fot 50 years with truckloads of cash and super-duper weaponry, thereby making America a terror target as "Israel's friend". (Remember 9/11)?
No offence to my jewish friends, but what has Israel ever done for America?

Bin Laden is long gone, but the muslim world still shares his sentiments-

"We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation." - Osama bin Laden - to CNN in March 1997

 

Americans are very leery of all transfers of wealth from government to special interests. Especially transfers to foreign entities.
The stench of bribery and corruption in Washington is now very repulsive to the American people.

 

If I go into a shop and ask for $100 and say to the shop owner that he won't lose out because tomorrow I will buy $80 of goods from his shop, I'm sure he will not think that's great. (the missing $20 is my admin fee and spend in other shops).

Further, it is not "all the money is being spent on American weapons and supplies"
"Israel receives $3 billion per year in US military aid, most of which must be spent on American-made arms."
http://www.timesofisrael.com/pentagon-approves-massive-1-9-billion-arms-sale-to-israel/

 

its the same old logic that has gone on for fifty years. Israel is 'special'. Israel is the only democracy in the region. Israel is our only dependable ally in the region. Israel is surrounded by enemies. We keep buying what the strong Israeli lobby keeps selling. I don't.

 

By accepting American aid, Israel is making herself "America's puppy dog" and has to do what Washington says.
For example when Saddam blitzed Israel with Scud missiles in '91, Israel wanted to bust Saddams ass (perhaps with nukes?), but Washington said "No", so Israel backed down.

 

Hmm yes kinda in a simplified context what this man is saying is correct. Remember all that we give aid and money in the billions to some oh 30 odd countries many of whom openly hold us in disdain.

Israel didn't just not blow Saddam to hell and back because we said no but because like in a poker game that potentially would have opened up the entire ME peninsula to all out war. It wasn't the time for them to go " all in "

Israel has armaments both conventional and nuclear to annihilate any and all aggressors in the region. It's always been Iran that has been on their radar and in the last 20 years Iran has proved to be the Judaism vocal nemesis. Literally stating intended genocide

Israel is no 3rd world puppet but a highly potent, trained machine. Our alliance and support of them is critical to non nuclear proliferation in the region.

I sleep better at night knowing Israelis are working their Intel 24/7 to acquire Intel as to Irans efforts to acquire the bomb. So yes throw them some aid and moral support IMO

And God help Iran if they do declare they have the bomb because Israel will blow that great growing country with (*)(*)(*)(*) radical leadership straight to hell and they won't ask us for permission

 

Here we go again. This is very disingenuous and you know it. The Daily Kos has said that antiwar.com is not a legitimate news source because it is antisemitic Others have said the same thing. I guess they were right, because of the way the question was stated:

The US just agreed to provide $38 billion in military aid to Israel over the next 10 years. In your opinion, how could this money be better spent?

Can you believe how biased that question is? To their credit, over 16% said that Israel should get it.

 

The biggest aid that is given to Israel is the fact that America's foreign policy has become a hand maiden to Israeli interests and agendas. That aspect of the aid given to Israel dwarfs by an order of magnitude that is hard to even calculate the kind of aid that we are speaking of here.

 

"blitzed"? there were 39 and most did not reach Israel but landed in the deserts of places like Syria and Jordan. The exploded debris of the out of control patriot missiles caused more destruction in Israel that the scuds. Israel had no interest in attacking Iraq because Iraq was seen as a defensive shield against Iran. Israel is more like a cat than a puppy - gets fed then goes off and does what it wants and no one can tell it what to do.

 

Incorrect.
Israel has form on this.
They attacked Iraq to prevent Iraq from getting a nuclear program.
Right after Iran attacked it and failed to destroy it in fact.

 

When Obama gave Iran permission to continue building nuke reactors, Israel was outraged, but not outraged enough to launch airstrikes to take them out..
PS speaking of cats-



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$3.8 billion a year isn't significantly more than we have already been giving them

its not even .5% of the federal budget

 

Actually our total Budget spending for 2016 is $4 Trillion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_federal_budget
$3.8 Billion a year is Less than 1/1000th.
IOW, under .1%
by 10 years out it will be considerably Less than that.


And I would again point out that the Opening post is a lie and a fraud.

 

Everyone are stupid execpt you or maybe there are some things you are not aware of. perhaps YOU are the special one.

 

Actually there are lots of Americans who are plenty unhappy with the amount of military aid or non-military aid to Israel. Lots of us do not want to indirectly support those settlements. At least make Israel fund its own policies.

 

I totally agree and as another poster said the whole point of Zionism is indipendance, but the aid keeps on coming regardless of how friendly our gov's are and regardless of threats - so what's up ? surely not a Holywood Holocaust movie.

 

Compassion for Arab lives and, the first rate intel comes in handy too.