9 11 John Kerry Admits that WTC7 Was Brought Down By Controlled Demolition!

So, you're just a troll. Got it. It's a pity that's the limit of your capabilities, as I would like to discuss the collapse of 7WTC with someone who knows what they are talking about for a change.

It's a shame you're clueless on the subject as it could have been an interesting discussion. Oh well, you can keep your lowbrow trolling and dumb posts.

 

Thanks for the kind words. Some folks are so deeply in denial that it is impossible to have a rational conversation with them.

 

And some people have no foundation to their arguments, so all they have left is making moronic assumptions about others. Can you debate the collapse of 7WTC without all the stupidity evinced by the OP?

I doubt it, and you have the temerity to state that those who disagree with you are in denial. What a moronic comment, and that is about all one gets from the adherents of 9/11 truth-no evidence-just brain dead personal attacks that belong in the schoolyard.

You guys watch a few highly contentious, poorly contructed and partisan videos and think you're experts.

 

Perhaps you can take time out from your vacuous celebration and explain to me why you think molten metal is significant?

 

LOL. There is plenty of evidence to show you are in denial. When we reach a point, or when any brain reaches a point, that evidence is simply ignored, that brain is like a crashed computer. Useless.

Kinda like those "put" stock transactions in regards to American Airlines right before 9-11, where there was a 450 percent increase in those transactions, but only on that airlines, not the others. So when a reporter wanted to find out who conducted the transactions, it seems the gov't had destroyed those records. Another COINCIDENCE among a plethora of coincidences in regards to 9-11.

This isn't a conspiracy theory, its a damned conspiracy. Like Northwoods, like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and like the murder of JFK, who in 1979, after looking at the warren report again, the gov't said its conclusion was there was more than one shooter, and then just dropped it. Do not believe it? Look it up!! Of course anyone in denial, which is 50 percent of the public in regards to 9-11 can never step out of it. Got something to do with an ego refusing to ever being wrong. Evidence is meaningless to such brains.

Hey, I got some scenic view mountain land in Florida, overlooking the ocean, that is for sale. 1 buck an acre with a million dollar home on it. Oh, its 10 acres. PM me if interested, price...10 bucks. I take paypal. Offer is good to all who think 9-11 jives with the official story. (maniacal laughter)

 

Molten iron is significant because it could not have been caused by office fires on the upper floors. It is significant because it lasted for about 3 months, and office fires on the upper floors could not do that.

 

So why do you think explosives or thermite could do that?

 

It did not last for three months stop making crap up

 

For your Info:
Unexplained Extreme Heat & Fires in the WTC Rubble Persisted for Months


& The only Crap
around here is the Sour Soup of Buncombe you and the poor case of the Blues try to sell us


You guys have been owned -
So who do you work for the Repugnantcans, Democraps, CIA, AIPAC, or the Saudis ?

High Temperatures, Persistent Heat & 'Molten Steel' at WTC Site Contradict Official Story
http://www1.ae911truth.org/faqs/347...eel-at-wtc-site-challenge-official-story.html


New WTC Findings:
NIST Criminally Manipulated Computer Input data; Explosions And Extreme Heat Ignored:
.......................................................................................................................Videos Cut Short
http://www.isgp.nl/911-wtc-7-collapse-nist-failure-to-disprove-controlled-demolition-thermate


Extreme Temperatures and Incendiaries
http://wtcbuilding7.weebly.com/presence-of-incendiary-devices.html

From the Article: - Full Article Recommended

By using NASA's thermal imaging of the WTC rubble pile surface the United States Geological Survey
(USGS) was able to document hot spots with temperatures reaching almost 1,400°F five days after the
collapse on September 16, 2011. However, there were no fires present on the surface of the WTC 7
rubble (Mark A) indicating much hotter temperatures were coming from deeper within the pile. The
Extreme Heat persisted for weeks on end despite continuously spraying millions of gallons of water onto
the debris pile
Mark - Temp (°F) (Fires in the Rubble Persisted for Months, 2009)

 

Now if office fires or conventional explosives could NOT cause such Extreme Persistent Heat
What could ? - Thermite that reacts at Temps that melt metal - or Nano Thermite that reacts
even higher ! - And it was the Unreacted Nano variety that was found in the Dust of WTC

 

The heat from thermite ignition dissipates immediately, so that can't be an explanation for the long term heat signature.

Thermite is not the answer to this question as it burns out immediately. What explosive do you know of that is capable of exhibiting this effect?

None.

No, that is not true and has been disproved.

The obvious answer is the convection in the pile, but that is inconvenient to 9/11 truth and they just hand wave that away without explanation.

Furthermore, why do 9/11 truth believe the NASA data proves molten steel?

"By using NASA's thermal imaging of the WTC rubble pile surface the United States Geological Survey
(USGS) was able to document hot spots with temperatures reaching almost 1,400°F five days after the
collapse on September 16, 2011. However, there were no fires present on the surface of the WTC 7
rubble (Mark A) indicating much hotter temperatures were coming from deeper within the pile. The
Extreme Heat persisted for weeks on end despite continuously spraying millions of gallons of water onto
the debris pile
Mark - Temp (°F) (Fires in the Rubble Persisted for Months, 2009)

 

There was nothing unexplained about that fire. Fires are not blocked extinguished by falling buildings and the rubble trapped the heat causing the high temperature

This is what eventually lead to molten metal in the pile. Quite predictable.

Once again you quote ae911 which is as valid as a comic book

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Neither thermite nor nano thermite was ever found in the rubble or debris.

You need to get out of your moms basement once in a while.

The thermite claims were proven false years ago.

Once again thank evidence crushes you

 

why do you continue to post disinformation? If there were laws against it youd be doing 25 life sentences.

 

I stated accurate fact.

Your childish response proves it

 

indeed.that is the UNDERSTATEMENT of the century.

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I know it,thats why I have them all on ignore,they wont watch videos or read any of the links you post because they are so much in denial they only see what they WANT to see.as this thread so well says,they need to see these psychologists for help.lol

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Yeah its not a conspiracy theory,its a conspiracy FACT. the governments version of events is a conspiracy THEORY.

 

they been OWNED indeed.MONEY is the reason WHY they work for them,plain and simple.

 

I've heard it all before. Can't you prove any of the claims without a highly partisan and poorly constructed video that lacks source material? Can't you elevate the level of source material to that of an academic? Populist videos are just junk in my book, and I would ever use OP-ED pieces that are so obviously biased and selective.

You just parrot the usual truther ad hom evasions, i.e. 'Denial' (so hackneyed by now); 'Shill' (just idiotic); 'Government dupe'; 'Cognitive Dissonance' etc.-all without really knowing what they mean and none of which is credible in this arena.

Tell me since you seem to know it all, can you discuss the collapse of 7WTC in detail without all your usual vapid noise?

Oh, that's right, 9/11 truth don't 'do' questions.

That alone says much for the loony stories of 9/11 truth.

 

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Well that's an interesting rebuttal - You stick your fingers in your ears, say nyaa nyaa - A then only
offer us the undocumented VACANT DENIAL that is the Official Line - Willful Ignorance, Disinformation,
Misinformation & bald Lies, are all you have, & they do not serve your cause very well, my friends


& on & on,
You guys go with the Official Line of Washington Offal, fed to you, out of the mouths of talking heads,
It only serves to whitewash the Truth with filthy Lies & pollute the Well for the dupes & the gullible
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Read the Articles -
Listen to the Testimony within the Vid's - Familiarize yourself with the FACTS then come back to the table
...............................with something more than your armless, legless, naked, uncovered, personal Bald Denials

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Active Thermitic Material
Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Neils H Harret
http://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

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Be here Aware, the presence of Nano Thermite
.......................... has never been DISPROVED - It's presence has rather been PROVEN beyond doubt

Of coarse the Gatekeepers of the Official Line have to deny these unfortunate Facts
To admit to any part of them, would be to admit that more went down on 911 than three buildings
What is NOT surprising is how often they have to resort to Ridicule in their Rebuttal
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WTC Molten Molybdenum
http://www.takeourworldback.com/moltenmolybdenum.htm

From The Article:
With the publication of a paper in a peer-reviewed journal proving that active thermitic materials were
discovered in the WTC dust, there is no longer any doubt that a thermite variant was used in the
controlled demolitions. The material found was highly energetic and included particles on the nanometer
scale. Fleshing out details of where it was placed, and whether conventional thermite or thermate was
also used, remains to be seen.
&
Solid evidence of molten iron and extremely high temperatures that cannot be accounted for by hydro-
carbons burning in air, corroborates numerous reports of molten steel that was still running weeks after
the 9/11 attacks, and confirms that the perpetrators employed aluminothermic reactions as accelerants
in order to guarantee total collapse of the Twin Towers and Building 7.

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To Claim Convection
caused the steel to melt and sustain ridiculously extreme temperatures for extended times is absolutely Ludicrous

I suggest you go to school and learn the role of Convection in Heat Transfer - Convection is a function of a Liquid
& or Gas. - If it be Liquid then it must have been the Molten Metal - then the question is begged - "What caused
the initial Melting of that Metal, necessary to involve Convection???"

And if the apparatus of Convection be the Oxygen found in air, then the question is begged -
"Where in Hell did that amount of Oxygen come from? in a debris pile choked in Tons of Pulverized Concrete ?

You can burn mountains of Office Furniture in open air all day and NEVER come close to reaching
...................................................................................... the temperatures needed to Melt Metal

It Is Physically Impossible
Office Furniture simply does NOT have the energy potential needed to Melt Metal -
That is why they use Coke & Oxygen to make steel
............................................................................................................................................................................

Watch from 5:26 into the Vid -
An Interesting Analysis by a Masters Degree Polymer Scientist
September 11th Anomalies High Temperatures Meteorites Composites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KssL7vXT-Ck

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& Remember -
The Extreme Heat
that caused the Molten Metal was found at the BOTTOM of the Pile, In a deep 7 story unventilated Hole

While any remaining Jet Fuel, Office Furniture fire, would have been found nearer the TOP
The TOP of a pile of a enough Tons of Pulverized Concrete & Steel to choke out any normalfire.

"Following the World Trade Center collapses thermal hot spots with temperatures in excess of 700 C existed deep within
the wreckage of the buildings. These temperatures were sustained for a long period of time"

"The temperature at the core of "the pile," is near 2000 degrees Fahrenheit, according to fire officials, who add that the fires
are too deep for firefighters to get to. [ABC News, 9/18/01]"

So where did the Oxygen come from to sustain those Temperatures ?
Answer - From the presence of Unreacted Nano Thermite - The only POSSIBLE source

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5 WTC Steel Artifacts

Impossible to explain with the Official Line is the presence of multiple ton steel I beams bent,
twisted and deformed beyond belief

The Horseshoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bu5UFg4mDY
"This eight ton steel I beam is six inches thick. It was selected fo be preserved for future gener-
ations because of the the near perfect bend ....it bent almost perfectly without cracking - It takes
thousands of degrees to bend steel like this" - "and would have no reason to bend like that, but
that it happened DURING the collapse

Cause for the Perfectly Cut WTC Beams Revealed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajim-QumLiA

9/11 - Experts Amazed Over WTC Steel Beam Bend (thermite)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-tOWOYeig0

WTC Collapse Photographic Evidence Of Cutter Charges
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread237641/pg1

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The Microspheres
Also impossible with the Official Line is the presence of billions of Iron Microspheres, a phenomena
.......................................................................................... possible only by a near instantaneous Melt

16 Ground Zero Part 2 Iron Microspheres - ESO - Experts Speak Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Uww-T68E4


Iron Microspheres - ESO - Experts Speak Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Uww-T68E4

Iron Microspheres in the 911 Dust
http://hubpages.com/politics/forum/102698/iron-microspheres-in-911-dust

From The Article:

"The only other likely source of iron microspheres is the controlled demolition using thermite
or thermate. These use iron oxide (rust) and aluminum. Aluminum is far hungrier for oxygen
than iron, so it steals the oxygen creating intense heat, aluminum oxide and elemental iron
(metallic). The heat frequently reaches 4500F degrees, far above the 2800F degree melting
point, and only 682F degrees below iron's boiling point. Because of the explosive expansion
of gases and the constituent materials, reacting thermite will sputter explosively, forcing the
iron into the air as tiny droplets -- aerosolized.


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The presence of large amounts of Unreacted Nano Thermite was indeed found in samples
of the WTC dust - Unreacted Nano Thermite, that in the presence of Molten Metal from the
initial reaction, - could easily have sustained the Extreme Heat that was Observed.
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Remember

This Molten Metal occurred at the bottom of a 7 story basement, buried under Gazillions
of Tons of pulverized concrete. Any normally caused fire as the Official Line must contend,
......................................................................................... - would have soon been smothered

These fires lasted weeks - Where did they the necessary Oxygen come from ?
Only one explanation is possible - The Fires fed off unreacted Nano Thermite in
the debris pile - Nano Thermite which provides it own Oxygen during combustion
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Again:

How could such temperatures be achieves? Ans: Only a Nuclear device or Nano Thermite
................................................................... could possibly produce such sustained Temperatures.

As to which, why or how? - Only a properly
funded & independently conducted investigation will ever be able to uncover the truth
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& be Aware

The NASA Data proves Persistent Extreme Heat - Heat far beyond anything that Convection in
Office Furniture could possibly conjure. It does not attempt to prove the presence of Molten Metal

The presence of Molten Metal was proven over & over again by Photo & the direct Observations
...................................................................................................................... of first responders -

Following the World Trade Center collapses thermal hot spots with temperatures in excess
of 700 C existed deep within the wreckage of the buildings.
These temperatures were sustained for a long period of time

The temperature at the core of "the pile," is near 2000 degrees Fahrenheit, according to fire officials,
who add that the fires are too deep for firefighters to get to. [ABC News, 9/18/01]

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Read the Articles - be Informed

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Pulverized

Molten Steel & Extreme Temperatures at WTC
https://911conspiracy.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/molten-steel-extreme-temperatures-at-wtc/

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Molten Concrete Flowed Like Lava Under Ground Zero
http://911blogger.com/news/2009-01-08/molten-concrete-flowed-lava-under-ground-zero

From The Article:


These photos are from a current New York Police Museum display of recovered firearms that
had been stored by the US Customs House inside WTC6, prior to and during 9/11.

As the actual display sign indicates, the entire hand gun on the left, and two pistol barrels on
the right are completely embedded in a mass of solidified concrete, melted by the intense fire
and liquefied so that it flowed “like lava”.

What they have neglected to consider is Jet fuel and office contents can produce a maximum
burn temperature of 1,800 degrees, over 1,000 degrees cooler than the sustained 3,000+
degree burn temperatures required to liquefy construction grade concrete.

Therefore, this becomes one more of the countless items of absolute evidence that the fires
were far hotter, and burned far longer than jet fuel could possibly produce. Once again, the
laws of physics must be suspended for the official government cover-up story to be believed

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Take Note: The Official Line
and of it's Shill/Sheep supporters have been Pulverized like the Concrete of the WTC

.
.

 

as always,you educate and take the OCTA's to school with them having nothing but egg on their faces.lol

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they ALL stick their fingers and their ears never bothering to read your links or the videos you post.

as always,you are the professor and taking them to school and OWNING them.

 

Thanks for making your post too screwed up to reply to. I never stated that convection was responsible for the myth of the molten metal. I said it explains the heat signature as supplied by NASA. Please upgrade your comprehension before you respond.

The rest of your messy post and gish gallop isn't worth bothering with. If you can't post without all the noise and garbage, I can't be bothered with your (*)(*)(*)(*).

Oh, and thermite HAS been disproved. It's just that you're not up to speed on recent developments.

 

From Eadora's illegible mess:

"The only other likely source of iron microspheres is the controlled demolition using thermite
or thermate. These use iron oxide (rust) and aluminum. Aluminum is far hungrier for oxygen
than iron, so it steals the oxygen creating intense heat, aluminum oxide and elemental iron
(metallic). The heat frequently reaches 4500F degrees, far above the 2800F degree melting
point, and only 682F degrees below iron's boiling point. Because of the explosive expansion
of gases and the constituent materials, reacting thermite will sputter explosively, forcing the
iron into the air as tiny droplets -- aerosolized."

Who is this idiot? Iron rich microspheres surround us everyday. They would have been prevalent in the rubble from the initial construction; the brake dust from the elevators; The brake dust from the traffic around the buildings and from any electrical work that may have been carried out during the building's history.

Truthers are fooled by fools.

 

Making Iron rich microspheres at home:

[video]https://youtu.be/wLyYv5Y2YSM[/video]

[video=youtube;ev48qEO9SyU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev48qEO9SyU[/video]

[video=youtube;ZfonJKZl8qM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfonJKZl8qM[/video]

Since 9/11 truth can't read and prefer TV, I have presented the evidence for the plethora of iron rich microspheres that surround us daily in video format.

"iron rich microspheres are only the product of a thermitic reaction." ~ The words of a fool.

It seems along with questions, 9/11 truth can't 'do' science. LOL

 

.

To simply baldy deny the presence of Molten Metal is to fly in the face of the sworn
Testimony of first responders – But it is absolutely necessary to deny its presence
................................................................. in order to obscure the Truth, is it NOT ?

............................ https://tobefree.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/moltensteel2800c2b0.jpg


And NO, Convection does NOT in any way explain the Extreme Heat Signature

All the Convection in the World on a mountain pile of Office Furniture smothered
in pulverized concrete, would NOT be sufficient to explain that Heat Signature nor
.............................................................. the Molten Metal that was OBSERVED

Of Coarse
It MUST be assumed to be Disproved, for to admit to its presence in the slightest
would be to admit to the presence of a Vile Criminality in the councils of Government

And so it is Disproved as it MUST be Disproved by Shills and Talking Heads under
the guidance of their Puppet Masters. Of coarse it has been Disproved to the duped
[color=#frfffff][/color]& the unwashed lest that Vile Criminality, be undressed and the only possible alternative
[color=#frfffff]........................................................................................................[/color]explanation - be revealed

And so it has to be Disproved
Disproved by any means fair or foul. - Disproved by Bald Denial such as you do
or Disproved by Lie, Disinformation, Misinformation, the Poisoning of the Well
.............................................................................................or even cheap Ridicule

But Disproved only to the Rubes & the deluded Sheep who cannot fathom that
their Corporate Plutocratic hidden Government may not have their best interests at Heart.
And may indeed carry the clippers Shears & the butchers Knife, behind their back

All stops will be pulled - to promote & to Prove their Lie. As you promote it here.

And either you are one of those who promotes their Lie, Or you are one of those
who believe in the Absurdities that you so dutifully swallow

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Beware & Be Aware
"Those who can make you believe Absurdities can make you commit Atrocities”
.................................................................................................................. Voltaire
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& what Atrocities have been committed by the use of the Absurdity - 'that there
is nothing more to the 911 affair, than that claimed by manufactured denials
and the bogus explanations of the Officially accepted transcript

Perhaps we should ask the Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans, etc -
Ask the millions of Innocent Victims of your admittedly endless Wars –

Then count the subtraction of your Liberties - lost with the passing of The Patriot Act,
The Military Commissions & the passing of The National Defense Authorization Act –
The regrettable loss of Habeas Corpus the establishment of The Surveillance State –
........................................................... the obvious precursor to a planned Police State.

All the Laws needed for it to be established are NOW in place. All that’s necessary is
for someone to push the button and bring it into a perfectly Legal fruition

& just think “Blues” you helped bring it all in to being – LOLuck to Yah !





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Be Aware - That the Iron rich micro Spheres and dust found at the WTC sight contained
aluminum, sulphur, and barium – The distinct Chemical foot print of an aluminothermic reaction
AKA Thermitic Material and could NOT be the result of an Office Furniture fire, Prosaic Welding
...................................................................................................................or even Bad Breaks


& even FEMA admitted to ‘the profound corrosive sulphidation'


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DEBUNKING the 9/11 Debunkers: Thermate Chemical Signatures
Refuting the Hollow Arguments of the So-called 9/11 Debunkers

http://911debunkers.blogspot.ca/2009/02/debunking911-debunked-thermate-chemical.html
Full Article On Web Site With Links Is Highly Recommended


This is a response to a video created by YouTube user RKOwens4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWpC_1WP8do
which attempts to debunk Steven Jones. Hilarious coming from someone with no degree
nor experience in either Physics or Chemistry.

Yet a lot of people automatically assume it's true because it's debunking. And conspiracy
theorists are tin foil hat crazies, with no Scientific knowledge.

So let's start with the misconceptions this RKOwens4 displays.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

]First Off

Debunkers are confusing WTC dust with IRON SPHERES found [IN THE DUST].

There is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

The Spheres show that the chemicals were formed due to melting and/or vapourisation,
this is due to surface tension. When a liquid is formed the surface tension of the liquid
forms a sphere.

Just like when you spray water you will notice many small spheres forming.

This is important as the SPHERES not the dust has the chemical signature of a variation of
thermate. This indicated the various chemicals found in the spheres were melted at the SAME
TIME. Forming Spheres. The Spheres found had chemical signature of FE, AL, K, SI.
And various additives and variations of the thermate was found.
Including sulphur, copper, manganese.

Different aluminothermic reactions have different properties, some are faster reacting,
like sulphur which reduces the melting point of steel.


What other mechanism can make FE, AL, K, SI melt at the same time to form Spheres?

Debunkers like to beleive the iron came from steel, the aluminium came from cladding
and silicon from glass, etc.

Forming from office fire is impossible, for a start iron cannot melt in office fires and the
melting points of these metals are so different, there would be a sizeable time delay from
heating WTC common materials. Then they also have to cool together at the same time to
form a Sphere.

Thermate however provides the solution to this question because the reaction is very fast.
No other mechanism is known to provide Spheres such as these.


Secondly

RKOwens4 is confusing Steven Jones arbitrary usage of the word thermate with
military grade ( Thermate - th3 (in military use) is 68.7% thermite, 29.0% barium nitrate,
2.0% sulphur )

There are a wide variety of different types of thermate, thermite, and other
aluminothermic reactions. In fact all you need is a metal oxide whose metal is lower in
the reactivity series than aluminium to create such a reaction. As the aluminium steals the
oxygen from the oxide.

Iron is the most common form of aluminothermic reaction, this is known as Thermite.


So finding barium nitrate in Spheres is not at all necessary for a Thermate reaction.
Finding aluminium oxide and iron or other metal as a single sphere is.


It turns out Nano-Thermite and Thermate was used, the chemical signature found in
unexploded red chips of Nano-tThermite, DO MATCH known government combinations.


RKOwens4 claims aluminium oxide was not found, but he obviously has not looked at
the WTC iron S/SIZE]pheres X-EDS which clearly all show aluminium oxide.

Another bunk claim of RKOwens4 is his claim that the sulphur was from gypsum.
Gypsum however is used as fireproofing because of its molecular stability.

However the chemical signature of gypsum is not found in any WTC iron Spheres as
.....................................................................................................there is NO CALCIUM.

http://s389.photobucket.com/user/subedei11/media/gypsum.jpg.html

As you can see Gypsum CaS04 is not responsible for sulphur found in the iron micro Spheres.



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Be Aware - That the Iron rich micro Spheres and dust found at the WTC sight contained
aluminum, sulphur, and barium – The distinct Chemical foot print of an aluminothermic reaction
AKA Thermitic Material and could NOT be the result of an Office Furniture fire, Prosaic Welding
...................................................................................................................or even Bad Breaks


& even FEMA admitted to ‘the profound corrosive sulphidation'


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DEBUNKING the 9/11 Debunkers: Thermate Chemical Signatures
Refuting the Hollow Arguments of the So-called 9/11 Debunkers

http://911debunkers.blogspot.ca/2009/02/debunking911-debunked-thermate-chemical.html
Full Article On Web Site With Links Is Highly Recommended


This is a response to a video created by YouTube user RKOwens4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWpC_1WP8do
which attempts to debunk Steven Jones. Hilarious coming from someone with no degree
nor experience in either Physics or Chemistry.

Yet a lot of people automatically assume it's true because it's debunking. And conspiracy
theorists are tin foil hat crazies, with no Scientific knowledge.

So let's start with the misconceptions this RKOwens4 displays.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

]First Off

Debunkers are confusing WTC dust with IRON SPHERES found [IN THE DUST].

There is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

The Spheres show that the chemicals were formed due to melting and/or vapourisation,
this is due to surface tension. When a liquid is formed the surface tension of the liquid
forms a sphere.

Just like when you spray water you will notice many small spheres forming.

This is important as the SPHERES not the dust has the chemical signature of a variation of
thermate. This indicated the various chemicals found in the spheres were melted at the SAME
TIME. Forming Spheres. The Spheres found had chemical signature of FE, AL, K, SI.
And various additives and variations of the thermate was found.
Including sulphur, copper, manganese.

Different aluminothermic reactions have different properties, some are faster reacting,
like sulphur which reduces the melting point of steel.


What other mechanism can make FE, AL, K, SI melt at the same time to form Spheres?

Debunkers like to beleive the iron came from steel, the aluminium came from cladding
and silicon from glass, etc.

Forming from office fire is impossible, for a start iron cannot melt in office fires and the
melting points of these metals are so different, there would be a sizeable time delay from
heating WTC common materials. Then they also have to cool together at the same time to
form a Sphere.

Thermate however provides the solution to this question because the reaction is very fast.
No other mechanism is known to provide Spheres such as these.


Secondly

RKOwens4 is confusing Steven Jones arbitrary usage of the word thermate with
military grade ( Thermate - th3 (in military use) is 68.7% thermite, 29.0% barium nitrate,
2.0% sulphur )

There are a wide variety of different types of thermate, thermite, and other
aluminothermic reactions. In fact all you need is a metal oxide whose metal is lower in
the reactivity series than aluminium to create such a reaction. As the aluminium steals the
oxygen from the oxide.

Iron is the most common form of aluminothermic reaction, this is known as Thermite.


So finding barium nitrate in Spheres is not at all necessary for a Thermate reaction.
Finding aluminium oxide and iron or other metal as a single sphere is.


It turns out Nano-Thermite and Thermate was used, the chemical signature found in
unexploded red chips of Nano-tThermite, DO MATCH known government combinations.


RKOwens4 claims aluminium oxide was not found, but he obviously has not looked at
the WTC iron S/SIZE]pheres X-EDS which clearly all show aluminium oxide.

Another bunk claim of RKOwens4 is his claim that the sulphur was from gypsum.
Gypsum however is used as fireproofing because of its molecular stability.

However the chemical signature of gypsum is not found in any WTC iron Spheres as
.....................................................................................................there is NO CALCIUM.

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As you can see Gypsum CaS04 is not responsible for sulphur found in the iron micro Spheres.



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