There was no plane. The 'planes' were added on later ........................... animation not reality.
I wonder if truthers ever leave the basement long enough to realize that not everyone in the world experiences life indirectly.
What are you doing here? This is supposed to be a place where we can discuss the deeds of the Insidious Empire away from the Madding Crowd. If we bring up anything others deem to be a 'Conspiracy Theory' we are told to bring it to this particular corner, set aside for us and what do we find ? We find pages and pages of you 'debunkers; making any real discussion between us impossible. Blockers of freedom of thought, blockers of constructive thoughtful conversation, small tools of the Insidious Empire. I think you should have a debunking thread of your own and stop bullying those who wish too explore their thoughts freely to do just that in peace.
Actually this is a place to discuss physics. It's right there in the thread title. If you want to discuss the deeds of the insidious empire you can make a thread for it. That way, when some chump comes in and tries to talk about physics you can be all, "Get out of here chump this is no place for science or facts. This is a place to discuss stuff you think up after snorting rat poison dipped in chemicals from under the bathroom sink"
There is a science section, I believe. This is entitled Conspiracy Theories, you do not want to, nor do you, discuss the 'Conspiracies' so what are you doing here destroying other peoples conversations and free flowing thoughts ? And what does physics have to do with animation? Animated planes and animated 'jumpers' ? Nothing ....
Perhaps you should read the TOS and learn the function of a thread topic and the difference between a thread topic and a forum category. I suggest you pay special attention to rule 6. This thread is not entitled conspiracy theories. It's entitled, "9/11 physics, "You can't use common sense"" Again, if you want to discuss animation, then you can take your alleged conversation to a thread dedicated to such an endeavor.
I have said my piece, if and when I venture here into 'Conspiracies' again to discuss 'The Conspiracy' you and your gang will first be put on ignore.
Is it really so hard to wonder? Sure, you guys think of this as a place to discuss your wild theories, but should they not be contested? Suppose a random person hears about 9/11 conspiracy theories. They decide to google search. Based on a result of that search, they are bough to this very thread. Should the thread be entirely full of conspiracy theory guess/accusations, or should there be a balance of opinions, discussions, and conclusions? I think it is hardly fair for someone to read something entirely dominated by, what in my opinion, amounts to total bs conspiracy claptrap. Therefore I, and others, are here to level the playing field. So that for every wild piece of smelly cow dung you conspiracy folk are throwing into these threads, there is an equal amount of logic and debunking, so that the random people reading can get a fair, balanced, and complete opinion based on all sides of the argument. That is why I am here, anyway.
Actually a physical model is a direct experience. Mathematics and computer simulations are not. Taking the word of people claiming to be experts is not experiential either. Of course if the experts can't provide models or simulations then all they have is ego. psik
You would be a lot more believable if you could present a rational explanation for how it could have been done differently.
well debunkers are suckers that suck up any presumptive bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and pass it on as fact then heckle legitimate discussions. When cornered they simply lie or try to lie their way out of it. They are sort of like a stealth fart and do anything to pretend it was the dog!
koko is a troll, putting us on ignore would defeat his purpose, he wouldn't have anything to do then.
Applied mathematics is not abstract. There's no speculation involved. It's quantitative, not qualitative. The trouble here is that you have no direct experience with the concepts that the math describes, and so to you it is abstract. The obvious solution to the problem is for you to educate yourself, yet you seem wholly unwilling to take that measure. I keep telling you. Don't take my word for it. Do the math. If the people calling themselves experts keep all telling you the same thing, who's ego is at issue here? Is it the ego of the person that refuses to educate themselves on the topics that the experts are talking about?
I just find it so boring and destructive now a days. At one time I found it useful for clarifying ones own thoughts but really we The Questioners are, of all people, perfectly capable of critical thinking. It is so off putting for those who may have some inkling of a doubt ...................would they dare to come here and face the onslaught ? many, I know for a fact, do not dare..
Applied to what? You can't even specify the location of the center of mass of the tilted top portion of the south tower. All you blather about is abstractions because you do not have the data. Why don't you have a table specifying the tons of steel on every level? Even Gregory Urich admitted he did an interpolation for the perimeter panels. LOL You just constantly try to impress people with pseudo-intellectual BS. psik
I'm not trying to impress you. I'm trying to educate you. This isn't about the data. It's about the concept. It's about what to DO with the data. You haven't even gotten that far yet.
Those 2 bolded statements right there just sucked all credibility right out of any argument you make. Nobody should take you seriously, I'm convinced even you don't believe your own BS. You just like to troll.
Why do you think this is some special zone where you can just spout what you want and not be questioned? This is a debating forum! Obviously this is your first time here, don't jump into something you have no idea about and then act surprised and angry when it isn't what you think it should be. Go back to your holocaust denial threads. If you post here like you do there, then we should expect to see wild theories with no evidence whatsoever and complete ignorance of any facts showing your theories to be total BS. Wait, I guess you'll fit right in then....
what they dont understand is the weight factor of the floors had on they remaining floors after the plane hit..if four or more floors collapsed onto the floor below the crash that is putting too much stress on that floor..more than what they were designed to hold..the debris from the aircraft and the damged floors has to go somewhere..onto the next floor below...no one knows how many floors were really affected by the crash but it was estimated to be atleast four or five floors
It is not my first time here, nor my second third or even fourth but you have just proved my point of it being extremely hostile country for any truth seekers who wish to discuss or even just voice their questions. You too are now on ignore.
