9/11: What really happened on that day? >>MOD WARNING<<

I don't view this as a partisan or cognitive dissonant type of ordeal.

 

and just keep ignoring the elephant in the room ... why is it nonsense?

 

I understand your position, I too have a difficult time imagining that a poster who defends the OCT daily and questions none of it (or claims he/she has questions but spends no time on those questions) is a cognitive dissonant type. It makes little sense but you never know the extent to which a cognitive dissonant will go.

 

Why do you think? Read what I posted and think about it, you know, the implications. MK-Ultra was up-and-running for two decades I.e. it ran from the Eisenhower administration to the Nixon administration. It did not only involve the C.I.A. They had co-conspirators in prisons, in colleges, in medicine, even women of the night and likely foreign liaisons too. The amount of people involved in this one project undoubtedly had a whole bunch of people involved. No one involved in the project over those two decades ever came forward and blew the whistle. Not a damn one.

It is nothing but idealism to think that for any criminal/immoral/unethical behavior committed by the government that there is a corresponding good person ready and willing to blow the whistle on the whole damn thing.

 

Especially after reading the news reports on how whistle blowers are treated as criminals by the last two administrations.

 

I read what you posted ... the scale is not even the same ... all the co-conspirators need not know what was in the syringes,nor the lab people knowing what the the product was being used for ... and it eventually came out anyway, so whatever ... it was a conspiracy yes, but you have to look at the numbers ...

go back to the motive thread and stay on topic ... talk motive for such a crazy plan which neither you or Bob (I'm bringing him into this because you two seem to have an echo chamber going on) ...

I know you are both on the CD side but unsure of if you are no planers or switched planers or what ... I have a bunch of questions I would like to ask both of you ... it would be so much easier if you can tell me what you believe and what you don't ... for a start, can we at least agree to rule out mini nukes? ...

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examples? ...

 

Emphasis mine.

1. That's an assumption, either way actually.

2. I.e. compartmentalization. Why couldn't that be part of 9/11?

3. Like MK-Ultra, the Stargate Project, Operation Northwoods or the "downwinders" aren't.

4. That's called being like-minded. People like that exist in government too, you know? Do you understand where I am going with this train of thought?

5. Feel free to start at any time. Make a new thread if you want and I will contribute where I can or am able to.

6. I've heard this line one too many times here and in other CT forums. I'm not about to do the "show you mine" for you to turn around and not "show me yours" routine again. Quid pro quo works for me though. By all means, you start it off.

7. I'm insulted that you think that mini-nukes could be on my drawing board.

 

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bull(*)(*)(*)(*) ... I have shown my theory but you have yet to ... you continue to pick and chose the parts you wish to talk about including past government deception but refuse to answer questions on what you think happened ...

tell me about the planes Jango ... step up to the plate ... tell me about the four planes in your honest opinion ... I'm only asking your opinion ...

 

And I'm not interested in writing out posts for you to skip through entirely without addressing much or anything I've posted. I addressed your post with 7 different lines. How about paying me in return with the same. Quid pro quo shinebox, quid pro quo. You want me to jump through your hoops, so jump through mine too.

 

You really need me to tell you? And here I thought you know everything. Susan Lindauer, Sibel Edmonds, Robert Wright, Julian Assange, John Kiriakou, Diane Roark, Thomas Drake, Bradley/Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, etc.

 

are we resorting to insults again Bobby? ...

Susan Lindauer ... A nutcase (legally) peace activist who was consorting with known terrorists and probably being paid for it ...

that's all I have to say about your list ...

 

You're the one who made the claim you've seen all the YouTube vids. I find it hard to believe that one who has done all that research doesn't know anything about whistleblowers and your next sentence says you apparently do, so why did you ask me then?

Well of course, I hear that time and time again from OCT defenders about every outspoken person who contradicts the OCT. The same goes for peace activists. I mean, why would anyone in his/her right mind not want perpetual war? I'm surprised you didn't characterize all of the ones I listed the same way. In her case, yes she admits the US government had her portrayed as insane and wanted to drug her to oblivion until a judge stopped them. What a surprise, but you know the US government would never deliberately do that to any whistleblower who exposes their crimes.

I hope you didn't strain yourself.

 

didn't strain my self at all ... I never do ... just waiting for that smoking gun ...

 

No you're not, otherwise you would have seen it long ago, correction, you would have seen them long ago.

 

Emphasis mine.

I've been saying that from the start.

 

no smoking guns Bob ...

 

That's what I said, none you can see or want to see.

 

Do you believe in any conspiracy theories?

 

you're not a psychologist Bob ...

 

I'm kinda up in the air on JFK ...

 

Meaning what exactly? And JFK is the only one?

 

I don't need to be one to be able to recognize the obvious. There are many, many smoking guns, some so incredibly in your face but you decided there are none and proclaimed it as if none will ever be found. I'll give you just one tiny example and as tiny as it is, it has massive significance, the cover-up of 28 pages. If you don't see a smoking gun there, you will never see one, as you claim.

 

some things are classified for a reason ... just like JFK and Nixon when after many years those docs were released ... that's not a smoking gun Bob ...

 

you are a firm believer in CD ... show me some evidence or at least a theory on how it could have been pulled off ...

do you want to back to Susan Lindauer and her psychic abilities? ... or how a "friend" told her it was thermite? ...

 

Yes it is, when it exposes who funded 9/11 and when those in a position to know claim it's a cover-up. And yes there is a reason, like I said the only reason for a cover-up is to protect the criminals.