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Skepticism is the basis of science. If you are positing something that contradicts the current body of knowledge, shouldn't you be expected to provide exceptional evidence rather than just have every thing you say accepted without question?
It is really hard to present evidence when everything they have is based on opinion and outright lies. Take Koko's claim that every video tape of the South tower being hit by flight 175 was altered by the government through the insertion of CGI. Can he explain it? Can he present evidence? No and no. But it is the only thing he could think of that would explain the numerous tapes that show Flight 175 hitting the South tower when he claims no planes hit the towers. Can he explain all the eye witnesses? No. Can he explain the plane debris? No. Can he present ANY real evidence to back up his bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? Nope. He will post tons of animated GIFs and pretend he is some kind of expert on interpreting what they represent, but it doesn't take much reading before one realizes that the paranoid delusions powering the explanations are so blatant and so whacked that one wonders how anyone presenting such bull(*)(*)(*)(*) could possibly expect to be taken seriously. Then again, one also has to wonder how the truther movement can be anything other than a bunch of whacked out idiots when they can't agree on what happened, who did it, how they did it, why they did it, or when they did it. Koko believes nothing hit the towers and thermite was used. Jango believes all kinds of theories depending on the day. Some days he believes the government let it happen. Other days he believes the Jews did it and the government let it happen. Yet other days he believes the government was actively behind 9/11. Holston believes the Jews did everything evil since the beginning of time. 9/11 was an inside job believes each and every theory and truther post regardless of how impossible it is or how much theory A conflicts with theory B which conflicts with theory C. Bottom line, the very last thing truthers are interested in is the actual truth. To them it is all about convincing everyone else (or anyone at all) that it was whatever group or entity the specific truther has a beef against.
now no one is contradicting the current body of knowledge. The problem here is several crimes have been committed by putting out knowingly wrong information and falsifying reports. They knew about all of this prior to the omission reports, supposedly all the evidence was destroyed.....OOPS Now people may have seen a plane go in. Some say black, others UA, others Gray, others large, others small, others a missle, so you tell me what went if anything went in to the buildings. Until they can show me a credible video and none of them are, they all are cgi, then and only then will I listen, until then no bonafide evidence can be found proving beyond "reasonable" doubt that a plane actually went in. ya got a plane that disappears into a line . What we see with the brilliant white flashes in the wrong places, out of sequence as well as events out of sequence proves that something else happened. you got explosions above the right wing before it even hits, other explosions in reverse LOL, and some in the wrong places. Unreal Its impossible to prove to a debunker an orange is not an apple when they dont know what an apple looks like. If they knew what an apple looked like there would be no debate in the first place. The problem you have is DEBUNKERS they say that plane fires cannot melt steel. yet here it is: and here and here steel that looks like it was pulled out of a smelter. People being ejected from the building at over 60 miles per hour. whats up with that? People cannot run 60mph LOL what knowledge are you talking about and this isnt extraordinary evidence it is plain jane slam dunk guilty as sin proof.
so now what? what needs to be said when it can all be seen. the problem with coverup is that the lies wind up getting so ridiculous to maintain the illusion that even retards get it after a while. Now that people can see this in slow motion how can they possibly believe that someone had the resources to pull it off when there is so much wrong with literally every facet of the story its hard to know where to start. How many ways can you say melted steel is not melted steel? Especially when fema said it was melted steel LOL. Now they have the debunkers manual so I hope to hear some creative debunking now! <<< MODERATOR EDIT: REMOVED FLAMEBAIT TERM >>>
/ That was a subtle way of asking why fema would say there was melted steel? Seeing as how that was not their job.
Ahh,one more nonsensical post that has zero to do with anything on a positive note,at least your post wasn't cluttered with BS GIFS,and youboob links
If anything, it showed how foolish you are. Truthers have the most horrible comparisons ever. Lone saying that the weather is nice outside isn't the same as someone, who is not qualified, trying to identify a molten metal. Now, if you wanted an actual comparison, the equivalent would be Lone going outside and saying, "It's a nice day outside. Temperature 62, with a 30% chance of precipitation. Dew Point 49." See how specific that is? He might not know any of that, unless just seeing it being delivered by a professional. If you parrot a professional with a relevant education, then you are providing useful information. You are not doing that, you are providing a statement by an organization about something they are not trained to assess within days of a the catastrophe. I thought truthers were after the truth?
well said.a lot of these DEBWUNKER posters who defend the fairy tales of 9/11 fail to realise that that plan hitting the tower is about as real as the tie fighters in star wars or the dinasours in Steven Speilbergs movies.they never can come with the proof that a plane hit it.same with the pentagon anytime you ask them to show photos of the wreckage,they can only post photos of easily plantable evidence,they never can show the tail section,the luggage,the seats,the nose of the plane or any of those things you ask for that are always seen in a typical airliner crash. not to mention that one film has that plane coming from one direction hitting that tower while another shows it coming from a DIFFERENT direction as well.very good planned out coverup indeed.
What a crock...You've had over 11 years to explain how the evidence was 'easily plantable',or show any witnesses that saw anyone 'planting' anything
Well, given that the aircraft were filmed from various locations and parts of the approrpiate aircraft were found around the area, and that four planeloads of people were diverted from their proper destinations and their remains were identified at all four crash sites, it actually has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. "Reasonable" is, of course, the operant word here, in as much as most of the doubters show little ability to reason from known facts. No, you have an aircraft that punches a an airplane-shaped hole in the side of the building. The hole fills up with atomized fuel, which then deflagrates in a normal manner. Not a bit of it. I see no anomolies. Maybe you just do not understand how light reflects off an aircraft. Understandable, perhaps, since you have never had as much time as I have had to spend just watching them take off and land. I am also convinced that you never took a charcol drawing class, or that took one and failed to learn anything from it. Please elaborate on how they are "in the wrong places." You are showing us a cherimoya. What on earth gave you people the idea that that was steel? Steel will only glow whitish yellow through a very narrow range of temperatures, but, as anyone who has watched a lot of welding could tell you, it remains incandescent in the red range for a considerable time. I have seen pieces of steel welding slag weighing less than an ounce sitting on a bare steel deck, still slightly red, for ten or twenty seconds. Whatever that is goes from pale yellow to silver within seconds, with no discernable red phase between them. It has been my experience that, in any fire of consequence, there will be melted metal and glass. Brass, copper, pot metal, aluminum copper and lead all melt at reasonably low temperature, compared to steel. In the corner of the building, about where that lava flow began, there was a massive room full of lead-acid batteries so heavy that they had to specially re-inforce the floors to accomodate them. The chances are high that this is some alloy of copper and lead or plain lead. Lead is incandescent only over a very limited range of temperatures and turns silvery rather quickly as it cools and solidifies. This fact is well known to people who have ever worked installing now-obsolete lead-joined piping or who cast their own bullets and fishing sinkers. (I have done both, actually. My father was a plumber, back when lead was still widely used in drains.) No, actually, it doesn't It has sharp edges. Thermal melting produces rather soft edges. The lacy-looking piece appears to have been buried in hot fuel of some sort with a strong acid present, most likely sulphuric, since that is present in large quantities in older builldings in the back-up lighting systems and in the battery back-ups fpr computer centers or the OEM bunker in WTC 7. I see no human body being ejected in that steam burst. Don't try to tell me it is explosive eject from HE charges. It lasts too long at a low level of energy. It is steam. There is notrhing unusual about a steam explosion in such a massive office building. That is, after all, from the floor on which mopst of the mechanical systems for the next 30 or so floors up are intalled.
"you got explosions above the right wing before it even hits, other explosions in reverse LOL, and some in the wrong places." The nose of the aircraft hit the building first The explosion you reference is from the cockpit oxygen tanks which are stored in the equipment bay under the cockpit floor Of course had you down any research would have found this out.,,,,,
Arguing with no planers is like talking to a wall. UA175 hit the South Tower and no body can change that fact. This is all I will post on the matter. Skip to 14:50 and watch till the end if you want to get straight to the cut; [video=youtube;suE77AkSMeE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suE77AkSMeE[/video]
Every one of their responses is right out of the Martin/Sweeney playbook. No thought porcesses involved.
