A Palestinian State under US-Israeli boots The Zionist regime never ran out of ideas to legitimize its occupation of Palestine. It had rejected every proposal put by its Western and Arab allies (US, France, Saudi Arabia, etc.) in the past (here, here, here). New York based Jewish advocacy group, the Israel Policy Forum (IPF) came-up with a new proposal to the anti-Muslim Western plan; the so-called two-state solution to legitimize the Jewish colonial power in the Middle East. It calls for the withdrawal the illegal Jewish settlements, and the Israeli occupation force from the West Bank in return for the West Bank and Gaza becoming a Palestine Bantustan with a permanent Israeli and American military to protect the Zionist entity from the newly created demilitarized sovereign state. The proposal is the result of a study conducted by Washington-based Jewish group, the Center for a New American security (CNAS). Nearly 200 former senior Israeli military and intelligence officers put their brains into the study. As the first stage, the proposal calls for Hamas to accept the leadership of Shimon Peres Palestinian Gandhi Mahmoud Abbas over both West Bank and Gaza. Part of the challenge is that transition in Gaza would first require the Palestinian Authority to reassert governance and security control of Gaza an issue beyond the scope of this study, says the proposal. East Jerusalem occupied by the Jewish army in June 1967 aggression would remain part of Israels future Capital City. This proposal could become Netanyahus red-line for the next US president before the Israeli leader threatened to kill himself for the third time. Read all here: https://rehmat1.com/2016/08/19/a-palestinian-state-under-us-israeli-boots/ ------------------- What do you think, folks, is that a good idea and an acceptable solution for the Pals? My first reaction was: Finally they will stop the killings! It would be an improvement over the present situation, that's my feeling. But it's not me who has to live there - the betrayed and downtrodden Pals have to decide. Will the Americans be fair and keep the Israelis to their word? IF Mrs. Clinton becomes the next president, I have my doubts. Anyway, the wheels in Washington and Tel Aviv are always turning... one has to appreciate their efforts at least.
I think its a good start but you presented it in such a negative way - why would YOU support it ? BTW there are many wheels turning latly, the Sauds started a campgien against anti sematism, secret Isrraeli delegations travel to Egypt and the "labor" party leader has again met with Bibi in secret about joining the Gov - after he was slapped and humiliated by Bibi from last attempt I think if he does it again might be something real on the table.......at least I hope
Its been a while since we've seen this argument on the TV....but that's because the olympics have been on. Palestinians and Israelis - Still chucking missiles at each other I'm guessing?
This isn't a new proposal at all and you know it Jazz. the notion of a demilitarized UNITED Palestinian is pretty well essential to any plausible peace deal. The jews would no sooner give up Jerusalem than the Muslims would give up Mecca so that's a biggie as well. The jews are going to have to give up a big chunk of the settlements in WB. The palestinians are going to have to give up a big chunk of the WB to ensure guaranteed physical linkage of WB and Gaza. I don't see the opposing factions "liberation of all of historic palestine" vs "Israel from river to sea" actually getting it together anytime soon.
Israel won the land from Jordan in a war Israel did not start. Jordan gave up claim to that land. Thus, there's no occupation.
If our goal is to insure ongoing war, then this plan will work perfectly. If the ultimate goal is to achieve peace, the only logical solution I have ever heard comes from our rabbis who are clear about a democratic Palestine.
Why would there be an ongoing war? I don't get it. I can foresee that the Pals will reject this new plan, because it would mean they would for ever have to give up their claim to their former homeland. And there would also be no return for the many refugees sitting in camps in Jordan. BUT Israel will never go away or allow them to have their own sovereign state. So, why not bite the bullet for peace's sake and accept the offer? The way they have to live now is no life at all. AND I think the US might be fair and decent to them. The problem might be to hold Israel to its promise. Perhaps they should have China in there to monitor the agreement or someone neutral.
I would give the Palestinian leader a pen. And let him divide Israel in half. With an equal division of land, water, oil, important holy sites and other resources. Then I would let the Jew choose which half he wants.
if the zionists think the West Bank is Israel, then annex it and give all Arabs citizenship as 1.5 million Israeli Arabs. End of story, the conflict is over.
Democratic Palestine is an oxymoron. Whoever ever heard of democratic Muslim country? Your posts are a gift, I'm telling yea...
How about the Jew dismantle and take with him every improvement, every factory, remove every irrigation pipe, move to his half every building? All conditional upon Palestinian behave like normal people, and if a single rocket fly, Israel take all the land back? Would that be ok with you?
That's a great idea! BUT... I don't think Israel will go for that. Israel wants more than half despite having taken over Syrian's Golan Heights. There is however always the possibility of a surprise.
You want half the land. And all of the infrastructure. So you can take back the land. That's not going to work so I will propose a new offer. Israel may have all the infrastructure. And move to the Gaza Strip. And Palestine will have the rest.
The reason we helped Israel put up the blockade of Gaza was that they voted for people we didn't like. So, who is democratic??
The trouble is, that the rockets from the Pals hit only uninhabited land on the other side of the wall... nobody gets killed.
How about the Jew rebuild all the destroyed houses etc. and pay extra for all the years the Jew prevented the Pals from developing their own businesses and Industry and infrastructure etc.?
No, tertorism by Israel doesn't justify terrotism by Palestine. We ard part of the problem here. We continue to ship billions in weapons to Israel, block Palestinian rights in the UN and fail to insist on honest negotiation. We don't even attempt to meet aid needs that derive directly from our contribution in setying up the blockade, which is an act of war that has continued for a decade - with us uninterested in a negotiated end to the war - in fact, we don't even insist on a negotiated ceasefire. Israel would face far more pressure end its ethnic cleansing in Palestine and its apartheid at home if we even just took a position of neutrality. We can make a difference.
violence against the zionists is not 'terrorism' since they are a military dictatorship. As such a dictatorship, they have no rights to self defense and no morality to claim attacks by the oppressed (Arabs) are wrong. Also, since Israel has no right to exist, they are further criminals in theivery. Thus, killing zionists is always justified and zionists killing Arabs is always murder. Evil cannot claim to be defending itself. - - - Updated - - - yes, good point. I think the EU and maybe Russia should give Hamas the most modern technology, at least to shoot down drones and the zionist terror air jets. Also some good artillery to kill Netanyahu and his entire family as they sleep.
But your Rabbies dont even know the meaning of the word "Goy" and they never read the Talmud - so they are'nt even Jews let alone speak for us....
Considering this agreement is mostly humanitarian out of piety to our enemies, why would you think we care for the PA PM pencil marks ?
If we didnt have ppl like you - Israel would be a narrow coast line as in the partitation plan, thank God for making our enemies both arrogant and stupid.
