A rare lay press article that gets everything right regarding Delta

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Are you okay? Vaccinated folks are reckless and a few thousand illegals are the cause of the sharp rise in new cases? OMG.
    :roflol:
    This is speculation by people on an NPR broadcast, not NPR advice. It's from six months ago, too.
    What we're seeing in this country are a lot of covid in the unvaccinated.
    You do that.
    So, of course, you won't vaccinated. :(
     
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    The poor man likely got tired of the Usual Suspects around here.
     
  3. Zorro

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    Yes. They're pretending this is over and they can go back to normal and both assumptions are false.
    You put a few thousand on busses and in hotels who are dining in busy restaurants and each one has the possibility of shedding virus that interacts with hundreds of people.

    Biden's border policies are reckless and they are killing people.
     
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    Evidently not. He just seems to be rather thin skinned when it comes to anyone questioning what he presents.
     
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    I'll remain in consultation with my doctor. The idea that you know what is the best choice for me is ridiculously presumptive. For one thing, you do not know if I have natural immunity. The Israelis are finding that natural immunity is 7 times stronger than vaccine immunity.

    So get the vaccine too, we are told in the bums rush to get everyone to roll up their sleeves for jabs. Well, a very good study performed in the UK (www.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34216472/), and specific to the Delta variant, found that previously infected health care workers who subsequently got vaccinated, were 3.5x more likely to get a symptomatic breakthrough infection with Delta, than if they were not vaccinated at all. In other words, there may be times when getting the vaccine actually triples to quadruples your risk of getting COVID! Show some respect for what you don't know.

    While we have vaccinated getting infected all over the place, a very large study at the Cleveland Clinic of over 50,000 individuals found that no (0%) of individuals previously infected with COVID, were re-infected regardless of vaccination. (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2). But, not a peep out of our CDC about natural immunity, it's just "get the shot! get the shot! get the shot!"

    The CDC and national "experts" have blown this emergency, repeatedly, starting with their complete faceplant to rapidly supply medical providers with trustworthy covid tests. That failure made early containment impossible and they have blown several calls since, like telling the vaccinated that they could unmask and gather in large crowds.

    Prior to that Fauci, in early March said "sure! go on a cruise!" While a cruise ship was in quarantine in SF Bay with the dead being removed daily. And when Nancy Pelosi went into the large crowds in Chinatown and urged everyone to join her, in late March, nobody at the CDC breathed a word, like "That's NOT a good idea!" And despite Biden's reckless border policies, the CDC has not used it's emergency authority to order the closure of the border to infected illegals. That failure is not due to the science of virology, it's due to politics. When "science" starts acting in response to politics rather than science, don't be surprised when this triggers a political response.
     
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    Republicans aren't getting vaccinated and that keeps the damn pandemic going. Why would anyone in their right mind elect Republicans like Abbott and DeSantis?
     
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    Fake News. Young people and Black People are the most resistant to vaccination, and both have good reasons. A good portion of the surge are the reckless vaccinated and Biden allowing these variants to pour across our borders.

    The vaccinated are catching and spreading this disease. You seem to be the only person still unaware of this.

    More Vaccinated People Are Dying of COVID in England Than ...
    [​IMG]https://scitechdaily.com/more-vacci...covid-in-england-than-unvaccinated-heres-why/

    "More vaccinated people are dying of COVID than unvaccinated people, according to a recent report from Public Health England (PHE). The report shows that 163 of the 257 people (63.4%) who died within 28 days of a positive COVID test between February 1 and June 21, had received at least one dose of the vaccine."
     
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    Why would anybody elect somebody that's been within 50 feet of Orange Jesus? Bad, bad idea.
     
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    Oh, geez, don't get excited--I wasn't suggesting you should get vaccinated.
    Apparently, people who had covid are 50% less likely to be reinfected if the have one dose of an mRNA vaccine.
    What are you trying to pull? The actual study...
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    ... wasn't about the Delta variant.
     
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    That's 35% + of US adults, that's a hell of a lot of people who can catch and transmit the disease.
    Good catch, thank you. I'm trying to run that down.
     
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