A Successful N95 Mask Is Where You Keep Your COVID Virus Germs.

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  1. JAG*

    JAG* Well-Known Member

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    Let us assume the following.
    John Doe wears his N95 mask for 6 hours before he discards it and dons a new mask.
    ______________

    {While keeping in mind that many people wear the same mask all day and some
    people wear the same mask for several days.}
    __________

    Now for the particulars , , ,

    Tom Jones is infected with COVID virus germs.

    John Doe gets within 3 feet of Tom Jones and Tom Jones coughs and sprays
    COVID virus germs onto John Doe's N95 mask.

    John Doe's N95 mask STOPS the COVID virus germs which are NOW on the
    surface of John Doe's N95 mask.

    For the next 6 hours John Doe runs errands all over town as he carries Tom
    Jones' COVID virus germs around with him for the next 6 hours on his N95
    mask. John Doe touches his N95 mask several times as he removes it while
    in his car as he is traveling about town running errands and visiting friends.

    So?

    So a successful-N95-mask-wearing turns your N95 mask into a storage
    facility where you store your COVID virus germs as long as you wear the
    now infected N95 mask.

    How long does COVID virus germs live on surfaces?
    Here is what Web MD says:
    Start quote:
    "Most viruses can live for several hours on a surface that they land on.
    A variety of studies are looking at how long the virus stays alive on a
    variety of surfaces. One study showed the virus lived for up to 4 hours
    on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to 2 to 3 days on
    plastic or stainless steel."
    End quote
    Link: How long can COVID-19 live on surfaces? (webmd.com)

    See if you can "find a hole" in that logic up there -- see if you can find
    a weak spot in the OP's proposition that says this:
    A Successful N95 Mask Is Where You Keep Your
    COVID Virus Germs.


    JAG
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    You got it backwards, The mask is to stop you from spreading the disease, not to protect you. So when infected person A coughs into their mask, they keep their filth to themselves. Person B wearing a mask stays clean. Person B wears a mask because they may be Asymptomatic.
     
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    you have some strong scientific evidence that masks decrease the incidence of disease ?
    Please share.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    It doesent take strong scientific evidence to not spread filth to your neighbors.
    What evidence would convince you..what would it have to say verbatim?
     
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    awe shucks, running your mouth without any evidence.
     
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    Not really. It sucks for those who dont listen though. I already have the knowledge, you begging me for it is a personal problem.

    When you become liable for spreading filth, dont go crying about it. Claiming no one told you.

    https://www.nih.gov/
     
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    I just ordered a package of ten N95 masks. I was told I should wear nothing but N95 masks. After I receive them, I will wear nothing but N95 masks. However, I am not sure that ten N95 masks will completely cover me and I might get arrested for indecent exposure. However, I will do whatever it takes to help stop the spread of this terrible virus.
     
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    No.
    You did not read the OP -- or you ignored the important details in the
    OP that you are "responding" to.

    John Doe carried his COVID virus germs around with him for 6 hours
    and he touched his mask while he was taking it off and putting it back
    on for the 6 hours he was running errands and visiting friends. He
    therefore spread the COVID virus germs to his friends homes as he
    was visiting them and he also spread the COVID virus germs to
    other places as he was running errands -- the same COVID virus
    germs that were on the surface of his N95 mask. {Did you bother
    to notice the link from Web MD in the OP about how long COVID
    virus germs live on surfaces?}

    So?

    So my proposition as presented in my OP stands unrefuted:
    A Successful N95 Mask Is Where You Keep Your
    COVID Virus Germs.


    JAG
     
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    How long does COVID virus germs live on surfaces?
    Here is what Web MD says:
    Start quote:
    "Most viruses can live for several hours on a surface that they land on.
    A variety of studies are looking at how long the virus stays alive on a
    variety of surfaces. One study showed the virus lived for up to 4 hours
    on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to 2 to 3 days on
    plastic or stainless steel."
    End quote
    Link: How long can COVID-19 live on surfaces? (webmd.com)

    So?

    So a successful-N95-mask-wearing turns your N95 mask into a storage
    facility where you store your COVID virus germs as long as you wear the
    now infected N95 mask.

    JAG
     
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    So it's a matter of faith, a dogma, right? Figures.

    How about a statistically valid research showing that people using masks (or people surrounded by mask wearing public) are less prone to catch the virus? We've lived with the virus 10 months already, what's taking them so long?
     
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    The NIH runs on faith and dogma?
     
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    The mask stopped the virus, so he took it off and spread it, is what that sounds like.
     
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    Obviously...as you fail to quote scientific evidence supporting their "recommendations". This does mean that they and you want us to take their opinions on faith, this does expose it as a dogma. Duh
     
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    You could provide all the scientific evidence in the world showing that covering ones mouth who has COVID will prevent them from easily spreading it and he will call it fake news.
     
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    Actually you can't provide an iota of scientific evidence, you haven't provided any scientific evidence... not your fault, there isn't any scientific evidence. None.
     
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    They have a website, it has everything you are looking for.

    This will be the second time i link the site with all the evidence you need.
    https://www.nih.gov/
     
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    What would it have to say verbatim for you to accept it?
     
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    Please provide statistically valid research showing that people who wear masks and/or people surrounded by mask wearing people are less prone to catching the virus.

    They've had 10 months to do these sort of conclusive scientific statistical studies, I am sure there is a plenty of them out there, can't wait to read the results in the links you'll undoubtedly provide.
     
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    Masks can help the spread of the virus, but the way people use them is usually incredibly stupid and dangerous. Try to think of a mask as an air filter. It filters air you breath in as well as breath out. This means that it's incredibly dirty after a few hours because we breath between 4 to 6 litres of air a minute.

    Now, look at what people do. They take their masks and put them in their pocket which is where they also put their grubby dirty hands that have been all sorts of places. There's no sunlight in your pocket, so it's a nice humid and warm place for all sorts of things like viruses and bacteria to thrive.

    We'd do better if people didn't wear masks.
     
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    Yes people are stupid and incapable of using masks correctly.
     
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    There are videos on youtube that show how to wear masks and dispose of masks, and it's not that hard. It's just that most people don't care. For most people, it's just virtue signaling.
     
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    If you have been in a room with 15 people this week chances are you have been exposed to Covid.
    Why didn't you get it?
     
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    Its all in that link.
     
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    I accept your surrender.
     

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