A transplant miracle that defied COVID tyranny

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    DALLAS — Leilani Lutali and Jaimee Fougner are alive, giggling and ready to fight for truth, justice and faith. I visited them this weekend at Baylor University Medical Center’s aptly named post-kidney transplant surgery center called the Twice Blessed House. If not for their stubborn resistance and persistence, Leilani most likely would not have survived COVID tyranny — and Jaimee would be in mourning for her sister in Christ. Instead, we laughed, cried and wolfed down Texas barbecue along with friends and family.

    Last October, I wrote about how University of Colorado Health officials cruelly and arbitrarily kicked Leilani off its transplant list after both she and Jaimee refused the COVID-19 vaccine on religious and scientific grounds.

    “UC Health gave me a death sentence,” Leilani reflected on Sunday. “Baylor gave me a chance” at life...

    Fortified by faith, Leilani and Jaimee now sat before me at the Twice Blessed House joking about Jaimee’s super-kidney. Leilani named her life-saving organ “Baby Baylee” in honor of the Baylor team that lives by the Hippocratic Oath abandoned by UC Health. In March, the law firm of civil rights lawyer and anti-medical mandates hero Aaron Siri sent a devastating 22-page letter to UC Health regarding its violation of Leilani’s First Amendment-protected freedom of religion, violation of the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act and arbitrary removal of Leilani from the transplant list despite her long-lasting natural immunity to COVID-19 and despite numerous studies showing that:….









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    his is great news! I’m glad that she’s still alive and got her transplant. It was criminal of Colorado to do what they did. This is a very nice uplifting story.
     
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    Such absolute control freaks in a blue state organization. Get vaxxed or die they say. I hope they are forced to pay for violation of ones civil rights and right to life itself.
     
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    Please religion causes more problems for transplants than anything else.
     
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    You realize that someone ELSE on the transplant list is now dead because he wasn't able to get the kidney that Leilani got. Not saying she didn't
    deserve a kidney, just pointing out that your happy scampering is also a death sentence for someone down the list - maybe even a child.

    If every Christian was an organ donor, we could end these lists - think about that, dude.
     
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    That comment makes absolutely no sense at all.
     
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    That makes me happy.
    Just dont give up. No one forced me to get the vaccine either, I did it by calculated choice, as did most.
    Lets hope she doesn't get Covid now...for the rest of her life. Replace Covid, for the next pandemic causing disease.
    Ill bet she goes for round 2. Superman didn't know he was super till a bullet bounced off him.
     
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    People refuse to let their body's be harvested for organs for religious reasons more than anything else.
     
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    I’m a Christian and I’m a full donor. She was already on a donors list . She didn’t bump anyone to get hers and hers was a living donation as in the donor didn’t die to donate and they are now close friends.
     
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    I’ve never heard of that. I’m both a Christian and a donor.
     
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    The three that I know of are Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Scientists, and the Shinto faith.
     
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    Well, I am glad the transplant was successful as a living donor.

    However, the only way the operation would have occurred is if both were tested negative for Covid prior to surgery. If they tested positive, that would have delayed the operation, not canceled it altogether. Furthermore, with eGFR at 5%, Leilani would have been on dialysis until the transplant was to take place. Being on dialysis is not a death sentence, but it is hard on the body the longer you are on dialysis though. thus, if the operation never occurred, she would still be alive, just going to a dialysis center three times a week until the transplant occurred and is successful. Now, she will take a mixture of medicine to keep her immune system suppressed, which now makes her more vulnerable to diseases like Covid. I am sure the doctors will advise her to wear a mask and take other precautions other than hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin.
     
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    Yes and no. This was a living donor transplant, not from a cadaver. However, and unfortunately, people who are awaiting a transplant, from the kidney to heart to lung, etc, die every day because the demand is greater than the supply.

    Imagine if you just lost a loved one to a very tragic accident and as you are grieving, the Transplant Network comes to you to provide condolences AND to ask if the person who was recently deceased would donate their organs. You cannot imagine what you will go through emotionally if that happened. And that is why the supply is so low. A lot of people refuse, not just on religious grounds, but on personal grounds, grief, or simply just don't want to deal with that.
     
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    Try doing a transplant on people who will not follow medical advice because of………….. insert name of deity here
     
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    Which is why it should be mandatory.
     
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    Yes I can because I have walked more people through this than you can believe
     
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    Yes/no Sometimes it is down to a personal concern that they will be “missing bits” in the afterlife.
     
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    Shinto is Japanese and not Christian. The other two are to some extent depending on one’s interpretation of general Christianity though they differ on some issues from most Christians though that could be said about something or another about most denominations
     
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    I’m designated on my drivers license as a donor so no one has to ask a survivor person in my life. It’s set so whatever is any good to another person will be donated. In life I donate my B- blood every 2-3 months.
     
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    And I said religious.
     
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    Which is of course some sort of religious perspective seeing how the very concept of an afterlife in any capacity is a religious perspective.

    It sucks yeah but it would be worse to force such a thing in my opinion. For many religious folks such a belief is an actual reality and not some sort of fan fiction. No government should be allowed to mandate anyone donate anything of their own body even after death because at the end of the day nobody honestly knows what happens once we die.

    I choose to be an organ donor because if any of my messed up insides could possibly help someone else live longer once I'm gone then I'm all for it. But I'm also nowhere near as devout as many other folks and I also have no idea if my physical body will matter at all when I'm dead and neither does anybody else.
     
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    It absolutely would not be since we do know what the consequences are for NOT DONATING, my cousin died because he couldn't get a kidney.
     
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    I hope they do not catch Covid
     
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    I'm sure raging alcoholics feel it's arbitrary when they get kicked off the liver transplant list too. And it's not a matter of judgement, but a matter of likelihood of success. You give the transplant to somebody who it will be successful in. Somebody who refuses a simple vaccine is increasing the risk of failure due to covid, and also is a risk for doing other stupid things like refusing other medications for the transplant. But hey, I wish everybody who needed one could get one, even the dumb ones. But given the dumb ones will be less successful, they indeed should be lower priority.
     
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    Actually, they are still required to ask the next of kin. The designation on the driver's license will notify the Transplant Network that you are a possible donor, but the Transplant network will still be required to ask.

    The only way to make sure that no next of kin is asked is to have a medical directive. A medical directive is extremely broad and can be designated that in the event of an untimely death, you can donate your organs.
     
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    I have a really good friend who is the Transplant Network Coordinator for North Texas. Known this person for several decades and this person has informed me of all the nuances.

    This was a living donor. This is something totally different than a donor from a cadaver. I think that is not what you are understanding here. With living donors, the person who is donating will go through the tests to make sure that they are not predisposed to diabetes, or had cancer, Hep B or C, etc, that the antibodies do not reject, that the tissue typing is a perfect match, and the list goes on. With living donor transplants, it is not up to the next person because that person will more than likely receive their transplant from the cadaver. And that is a totally different situation. It is also why transplants, especially kidney transplant clinics have been focusing on living donors for the past ten years. The other issue is dialysis. Dialysis may be hard on the body, but it does allow a person to stay alive while awaiting the transplant. It is also why I don't think another person would have died because of this living donor transplant either unless they refused dialysis.
     

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