Those countries owe much of their "success" to confiscating guns. Is that what you hope for here? Sometimes those laws don't work. https://images.app.goo.gl/FZVV1sE4izHJyP9r6
Bad news: They aren't going anywhere. Fallacy: Non seq. There's no demonstrable or necessary relationship between the two concepts noted above.
people like him can never tell us why those who are not deterred by the consequences of committing mass murder are going to be worried about the consequences of having an illegal weapon
The gun haters tend to forget that the freedom we enjoy today in America is because of armed men... Americans with guns
lots of them hate freedom. one of our gun banners calls it "freedum" lots of gun banners don't want to be free because that means taking responsibility for their own mistakes .
many of them are projecting their own issues onto the rest of us. They don't trust people like THEMSELVES to be armed, for example.
Sometimes it's worse than that. Some of these gun grabbers are athiests in the strictest sense. They are Humanists. They believe that Man is god.
Yep. And their source of rights is the feeble mind of mankind instead of a higher power. If rights come from God then they are immutable. If rights come from Man then they are fluid and maybe you got a right to to shoplift. IF Man is in charge (but Man is not in charge) then rights come out of the barrel of a gun. Which is of course why they want your gun.
Somehow, I knew you would dodge instead of engaging in the "reasonable discussion" you claim to want. Some indisputable facts on the topic: 1) There are upwards of a billion guns already in legal private ownership in the U.S. This will only increase over time. 2) The vast majority of people who legally own these guns will not give them up willingly. 3) They can never be banned and/or confiscated by this government, ever. 4) People who are unconcerned with the penalty for murder will not be concerned with, or deterred by, restrictions on possession, or purchase. Once you understand these obvious truths, then it may be possible for you engage in the "reasonable discussion" you say you seek.
You seem awfully sure of you “indisputable facts” or is it a series of rationalizations. Since 1899 there have 465 million guns produced or imported for the US market. The vast majority of legal gun owners follow the law. A few will not. No one is talking about gun confiscation besides fear mongerers. Most who perform illegal acts go through a cost/benefit analysis. Could I get caught, what are the benefits. Judgment varies. I broke the law today. I drove 60 in a 45. Benefits outweighed the costs. Moving with traffic, no cops, costs nil. Of course there is the rarer heat of the moment illegal act where no law is considered. Nothing stops that and if a gun is in hand that makes it more deadly. In my city there is a 35% homicide clearance rate. It seems benefits are outweighing costs. So how do we keep guns out of the hands of a certain demographic when 20% of gun transactions are done without a background check?
The one obvious truth they absolutely refuse to accept: The enshrinement of constitutional rights - necessarily and intentionally - takes certain policy choices off the table. Until they accept this, it is impossible for them to have a reasonable discussion on the issue.
Two questions: 1. Where did you get your data on the number of guns? I'm always interested in data sources. 2. Where did you get your data on the number of transactions completed with a background check, as it would seen difficult to track those transactions that occur "in the dark"?
My experience shows me that the Ten Commandments work. I'd rather live my whole life trying to follow the Ten Comandments and what God tells us. If there is no God there is no loss in still doing the right thing.
A dozen or so years ago, Bill Whittle did a segment on Afterburner (Firewall?) where, by gov't crime stats, he had a list of places ranked by least gun crime % at the top and worst gun crime % at the bottom. Next to it was another column of places with the highest % of gun ownership at the top and the lowest % at the bottom. At the top of both columns was Plano, TX, with something like a 1.4% gun crime rate and 97% gun ownership. Same here, but the cult of privilege in DC and the cult of gov't-must-protect-me crusaders don't 'believe in' common sense.
Yep. Try telling former minister of Japan Shinzo Abe that you can just strut around oblivious to your surroundings and without a care of the world in a country without guns.
