A united western world is necessary to beat Putin

The US is becoming more and more a country where 50% of the population is the enemy of the other 50%. I am watching this with concern.

Now, I understand that democracy is about freedom of differences in opinion and that is great and good, this very platform being proof of that. But let’s realize that we are not each other’s enemy and we are all in the same boat. Right now, the real enemy is an emperor sitting on his golden throne in Moscow.

So, we need unity and cooperation more than ever. We are threatened by a massive country that simply eliminates its internal differences by poisoning people or just throwing them from balconies.

Putin’s goal is an energy monopoly over Western Europe and a grain monopoly over large parts of the third world. That is why he is after Ukraine’s gas&oil-rich east and its coastline in the south from where ships bring grain from to the rest of the planet.

Don’t fall for his fairytale that this war is about protecting himself against the West. On the contrary, he knew very well that this war would motivate independent countries to join NATO, and he was very willing to make that sacrifice.

Once he has reached his goal, for big parts of the world it’ll be just a question of: Obey Moscow or else your economy will die by lack of energy or food. He won't even need bombs for that any longer. He’ll just have his finger on the oil, gas, and grain tap.

This guy's wet dream of a Moscow energy and food imperium must be stopped! And this can only be done by the democratic countries with the US at the helm, I don't see any other way.

This means: one goal, one team, and working together within the US and with the rest of the democratic world. USA, Canada, Australia, Europe etc. We are more than strong enough if we put aside internal differences for a while.

The Arab countries, although built on dictatorship themselves, will play a crucial role in fighting Putin whether we like it or not.
So, we will have to strive for at least some form of alliance with them even if their values are very different from ours!

As for China and India, I pray they will soon realize that being ‘friends’ with Putin comes down to becoming dependent on his energy so that he can rule in the future. He is like the drug dealer who hands out drugs cheaply to make his victims dependent.

 

You are an amazing person. Europe voluntarily abandoned Russian energy carriers and naturally has a consequence - the EU will soon turn into an economically insignificant community of states, with a primitive way of survival. Europeans will walk around unwashed, heated by coal and firewood, fight each other and degenerate in the Middle Ages.
But the Europeans themselves wanted it. No one forced the Europeans to abandon Russian energy carriers. Is not it?

But if the Europeans want to return to the fold of civilization, they can always start begging Putin to forgive them, kiss Putin's heels and hope that the Russians will forgive their anti-Russian antics.
I think that the Russians can take pity on the weak-minded Europeans, the Russians are very kind people, and will save the Europeans from further degradation and cannibalism (to which the Europeans will soon come).

 

You think as they want you to think, Bravo! Manipulation of the public perception in the 100 years since Edward Bernays has been refined in ways he could only imagine.

 

Russia just proved once again that it is not a player you want to be trusted with major exports people depend on. They just got busted trying to increase global inflation by stopping Ukraine's grain exports of which thankfull Turkey and the UN just pulled an end round on.

Putin wants global inflation to spike so we all get complacent in his expansionist plan for Eastern europe since he feels everything is ****ing Russia over there. That's why it's so very important to cut off all dependancies from Russia as we shift globally away from any and all important exports he controls.

Even if he keeps his areas he stole in Ukraine...I sincerly hope that is the outcome of all this. Because if we stay dependant on Russia, we are all ****ed. Since expansionist nazi regime will continue to expand and bully their influence around the globe. And that influence ends with 1 man having the ability to be authoritarian and rule on high for their entire political careers over everyone else.

In comparisson, even though Biden is ****ed...we can and will pivot away from him in the next election cycle. That's freedom. That's democracy. And that's much more preferred. But there is no pivoting for Russia. Their population is heavily brainwashed only able to digest 1 sided media that favors Putin. And it's system of governance, like China will magically allow 1 person to rule on high for as long as they live.

No thanks.

 

^^^^^^ This is what happens when the "Western World" starts wars it will lose. The West started the ground war in 2014 and now the sanctions/commodities war in 2022. The "US at the helm" is why we have this total shitshow. The US (not a Democracy, FYI) needs to take care of its own borders and own people, instead of flushing money down the toilet in "the ukraine".

 

Or they can continue their anti-Russian tactics and crush and dismember Russia. The fact that Poootin and a relatively small number of other sociopaths are controlling Russia with brutal Middle-age tactics makes them ripe to be overthrown. When Russia begs forgiveness and kisses EU ass, maybe they will
be permitted to enter into modernity and participate in economic activity for the benefit of all their citizens.

 

A very good post. Putler is the enemy of humanity and attempts to appease him have only encouraged him to grab more land. Qe either help Ukraine stand against Puer's invasion or Putin will end up invading a NATO country and we will have a larger war.

 

What you're saying is that all Americans should support the dissolution of their Constitution and democracy and support Klaus Schwab's World Economic Forum's Great Reset, which is nothing more than a prelude and enslavement to a one world government under corporate control.

This is the liberal ideology that has taken over Washington and the EU and that Vladimir Putin is fighting. Washington and Nato know that a One World Government cannot exist without Russia's assets, so they're trying to use Ukraine as the battering ram in the dissolution of Russia. To them the Ukrainians are expendable - not though their land, which has been bought up since 2014 by companies such as Monsanto.

 

No that's not what he said at all.

Your dystopian fantasy and paranoia about corporate control of the world is just that: fantasy and paranoia. The idea that Poootin is "fighting" that is an even greater non sequitur since his brutal, totalitarian regime is nothing more than an enslavement of all Russian non-Pootin sycophants. Pootin and his buddies are inviting the dissolution of Russia by their savage and uncivilized actions.

 

People can't understand what Biden is doing.
Biden is fighting Russia which he has wrongly cast as an enemy of America
but he is also destroying America at the same time; harming the dollar, removing a border,
Biden is threatening to destroy both Russia and in consequence the U.S. as well in a nuclear war.
Biden is fine with that because there are bomb shelters with escape routes under Washington and he's fine with living in a basement.

 

China's Xi just 'gave' himself a third term of 5 years. Iran's leadership is also authoritarian as Russia's...You don't know what democracy is or means.

 

To help get a handle on something so bad, Biden's philosophy of wanting destruction for Russia and for everything around him is 'nihilism'.

But I usually just think of it as 'anger'.

 

The EU were the first ones to step up and oppose Russia's invasion of the Ukraine. The US was happy to lend support against the criminal Russian regime.
No anger or nihilism required, Poo-tin brought this on himself.

 

The problem here is a foreign power (Putin's Russia) made some serious inroads in dividing the loyalty of a subset of one of the two major political parties away from its own country. While the majority of Republicans remained consistent and steadfast on sanctions against Putin against the expressed wished of Donald Trump, that subset still remains active in Republican circles.

So in addition to the traditional and historic strains of progressive passivism ( the left's anti-war and pro brotherhood brigade), and Conservative Libertarian isolationism a la Ron Paul , there is now a third strain that nurtures a Putin based alliance based on internal political interests, rather than perceived geopolitical national interests or a percieved global peace/ first-do-no-harm foreign policy.

this is not the first time in our histrory ( Pre- civil war, the early 2oth century before WW1 and communist Russia under Stalin exploiting class and race divisions come to mind), that foreign govts' have worked hard to meddle in our politics, to promote the political advance of allies that might aide them and the collapse of enemies that might impede their own agenda but is certainly is one of the most brazen and effective.

 

Let's see now, Netanyahu served as Prime Minister of Israel, from 1996 to 1999 which is 3 years, and then again from 2009 to 2021 which is 12 years. So all in all, he was PM for 15 years. Angela Merkel was Chancellor of Germany continuously from 2005 to 2021 which is 16 years.

Vladimir Putin was President from 2000 to 2008 and couldn't run again because of term limits, so he was president for 8 years. In 2012 he won the Presidency again because Medvedev had trusted Washington's lies that they wouldn't kill Ghadaffy when Putin had advised him not to. Since then, term limits were extended by the Duma to 6 years so Putin is now president until 2024 which makes it 18 years.

Xi became president of China in 2013, which is only 9 years, but if the MSM is to be believed, which I doubt, he removed all term limits so he can now be president for life. Did he? I doubt it. Has he been beneficial to China? Well as a nation he did raise it to prominence, but as a political system its as bad as the one the globalists are trying to impose on us.

Anyway, considering the mess with our elections and our own government, we're not ones to judge or impose on other nations what they do or what kind of government they want. It's up to each nation and people, their own history, their own faith and their own culture.

 

The problem with allowing 1 person to suddenly dictate length of office, is that you are now beholdent to that one person. The people can't pivot away and elect change. So the 340 million people that Xi currently has locked down at gun point are just ****ed. Russia? Russia thinks that the west wants to capture them and place them in zoo's because of the one sided -government controlled- lies they are fed daily.

The United States gets the chance, through democracy to pivot away from Biden in 4 years. That's the beauty of democracy. We get to choose. I don't care much how Germany wants to govern, as they are not an expansionist regime looking to conquer. I don't have much to say with regards to Isreal either. Not my cup of tea. But then you are not puking the greatness of Germany or Isreal down our throats like they are "the place to be" on a daily as you spam these boards with RT lies while avoiding all the bad news.

Putin's latest speech, he declared that Ukraine's soveriegnty is determined by Russia. That all of Ukraine is Russia. That it's a failed state. That's him annoucing his "peter the great" intentions of which I've been saying all along. This was never about some nazi battalian. This was a land and resource grab. Vlad thinks eastern europe should all be under Russia's sphere of influence regardless if they want to be or not. He's following through with that goal with Ukraine. And it's exactly why once neutral Countries Finland and Sweden are now rushing toward's NATO.

They don't want to be ruled or influenced by Russia. They prefer their democracy and trade with the EU and the west as that style of governance breeds innovation and growth.

 

Putin brought what on himself? He not only freed much of Ukraine from the Nuland imposed government, but the EU by following Washington's dictates will now freeze. What a bunch of idiots. In the meantime the American dollar is dying while most of the world are using other currencies to avoid sanctions. We did it to ourselves.

 

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I love Putins last speech that he never made. Ah yes, the fairy tales in your posts that never end like for instance; that the World Economic Council with its Great Reset which the West is now under and suffering, is to bring about innovation and growth and that it's not about enslavement and control.

 

With sleepy Joe asleep at the switch and just reading off the teleprompter, the globalists are doing things few Americans would want them to do.

On people's wish list I doubt if they have 'the dollar devalued', 'a big war somewhere on the other side of the world that costs a fortune', 'to put OPEC back in the driving seat on oil prices'. Joe's been a blast.

 

Russia has a lower GDP than just Canada all by itself, and Canada is just one of the ~30 members of NATO. How is it that the 'entire western world' is now necessary to 'stop Russia'? Even if Russia was full of invincible cyborg supermen, that wouldn't make any sense... and it's clearly not, as it couldn't even take over one horribly disorganized neighbor. The only thing Russia has proven is that all its neighbors need to stockpile lots more man-portable anti-vehicular weapons. Problem solved.

 

The American dollar is doing just fine. But we didn't "bring anything upon ourselves". Their attempt to create a new global standard currency has been in the works for awhile now. And we should expect that and more seeing as how we are the top dog and China wants that.




This has beein in the works since 2014. And we should expect this kind of ****. Has nothing to do with our actions.

 

Of course....good luck to ya, China and Russia.

 

Of course, they can continue their anti-Russian tactics and fall into the primitive communal system. For objective reasons - the lack of energy sources - the destruction of industry - wars and internecine strife - the collapse of statehood - the primitive communal system - ... and more - the Europeans' tail begins to grow and the brain shrinks (this fact is obviously already happening) and turning into monkeys.
But there is another option - the Europeans will simply die of cold and hunger.
And the third option is to crawl to Putin, kiss his heels and, as is customary among Europeans, kiss Putin's ass ..... And perhaps the Russians will take pity on the European fauna and will not let these characters die out.

 

I'm inclined to agree with most of what you say but the cynical part of me must observe this facet.....

In order for your argument to be valid we must accept it face value that everything you first said about Russia's objectives is true without question...

I'm not enough of an expert to say if it is or it is not but that's just something I noticed about your entire post