A Utah parent says the Bible contains porn and should be removed from school libraries. Here’s their

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, that is a point, right?

    Going by the anti-book standard that seems so prevalent these days, the bible is full of sex acts. Rape. Incest. Bestiality.

    Should the "parental oversight" rules not be applied evenly?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2023/03/22/utah-parent-says-bible-contains/

    Frustrated by the books being removed from school libraries, a Utah parent says there’s one that hasn’t been challenged yet, but that they believe should be, for being “one of the most sex-ridden books around.”

    So they’ve submitted a request for their school district in Davis County to now review the Bible for any inappropriate content.

    “Incest, onanism, bestiality, prostitution, genital mutilation, fellatio, dildos, rape, and even infanticide,” the parent wrote in their request, listing topics they found concerning in the religious text. “You’ll no doubt find that the Bible, under Utah Code Ann. § 76-10-1227, has ‘no serious values for minors’ because it’s pornographic by our new definition.”

    The code cited is the Utah law passed in 2022 to ban any books containing “pornographic or indecent” content from Utah schools, both in libraries and in the classroom. It came after outcry from conservative parents groups, who have been pushing to have titles removed.
     
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  2. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    Every law has effects that are not foreseen by its writers. I would argue that she’s in the right and to be honest a Bible shouldn’t be in a public school library anyway. Isn’t there a separation of church and state thing?
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not in Utah. Sort of.

    Anecdote. A millions years ago, or 25, I was in Salt Lake City, and I was smoking a cigarette. I was told by a police officer to put it out, as I was on private property. Now it looked to me like a public street. I said as much, and his reply is I was actually on church property. Apparently a lot of public appearing areas are actually church property.

    It is an odd place. Beautiful, but odd.
     
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    omni Well-Known Member

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    The parent has a point.
     
  5. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    I live in utah. I still always thought there was a separation of church and state.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remember being there and you could not buy a drink at a bar unless a local member sponsored you first.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why? Nothing wrong if children will read it:

    Deuteronomy 25,
    King James Version
    11 When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets:
    12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.

    New International Version (NIV)
    11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts,
    12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

    Ezekiel 23
    New International Version
    2 “Son of man, there were two women, daughters of the same mother.
    3 They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their youth. In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed.
    14 “But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on a wall, figures of Chaldeans[a] portrayed in red,
    15 with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea.
    16 As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea.
    17 Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust.
    18 When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her naked body, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister.
    19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt.
    20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
    21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was

    Fathers love:
    Genesis 19
    English Standard Version
    8 Behold, I have two daughters who have not known any man. Let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please. Only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof.”
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think religious books should each be learned about in school but not to indoctrinate the children but rather teach of the major world religions, it’s sad that a bunch of bigots want to erase LGBT representation so much that they are willing to rush through laws that don’t really do much to “protect” children but rather try and push an agenda.

    The Bible does contain passages that far exceed anything they were wanting banned and I bet many religious persons will see themselves as the victims in all of this.
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    It’s not like that anymore. Must have been a while since you’ve been you
     
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    Actually at PRIVATE Clubs (Like The Eagles, KC, PLAV, Etc...) that is still the rule (all across the country) at many places...
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was like that at every bar and restaurant in SLC. This was before the Olympics, so it might be different now.
     

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