'ABC forgets' documentary which ‘absolutely skewers the renewable energy industry’

When discussing power needs of America, the wind and solar panels are often mentioned as our salvation.
Sinners who use nuclear or other sources are told we must obey them or the climate will take us all down.
I am here to remind you that never in human history has climate taken us down.
I will be pleased if others offer proof that climate took us down.

This video gives you a look at renewables.
I will be pleased to discuss that with you.

 

Industrial human activity is just a blip on the historical timeline, Robert. Tough to "prove" that industrial climate impact
happened in the past when it's only been happening for a few hundred years.

 

Oh please, everyone knows that ancient Rome was wiped out by all of the pollution from diesel trucks. Heck, pollution from coal-burning is what forced Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden. Sheeeesh!

 

Summoning the Giant Strawman

 

When did humans make a mess of climate?

 

Feb 23. 1974

 

I listened to the first 5 minutes of it. Electric vehicles are 3 to 4 times more energy efficient than gasoline powered cars. By 2035 to 2040 all vehicles in the U.S. and Western Europe will be
electric. That will eliminate about 25% of U.S. carbon emissions. Very little new power, around 15% to 20%, would be needed in the U.S. to power all of these electric vehicles.
All of that new power should come from sources that produce no carbon emissions. In addition to that, all electric power sources running on coal, oil, or natural gas will be either
shut down or retro-fitted with carbon capture technology by 2050. Even passenger jets may be running on biofuels before 2050. The video is propaganda.

 

The climate won't take us down because we have scientists that are informing us and proposing geoengineering solutions to supplement conversion away from carbon energy sources.

Very few individuals are aware that there has been much research into geoengineering solutions, over 100 scientific papers on solar radiation management have been published. Removal of

atmospheric CO2 is another popular idea. Developing technology to slow the meltdown of Greenland and West Antarctica are being researched. The scientific community

understands the potential problems looming in the near future, I mean this century. While some people are stuck in the ways of the past and are unable to grasp complex, scientific issues,

fortunately there are a few intelligent, educated, and concerned scientists doing the hard work . What were once fringe ideas are likely to go mainstream because the politicians and public

have ignored warnings from scientists. So geoengineering, once a last resort that climate scientists wanted to avoid, may be a part of our future.

 

Renewable sources are incredibly attractive, as electricity is a cheaper form of energy for cars and home production of electricity offers the opportunity to depend much less on the centralized electricity industry.

Today, 2/3 of the oil we consume goes to gasoline!

It's no wonder that it takes actual political pressure to ensure that we get benefits of clean electricity instead of being forced to buy gas and electricity from conglomerates.

 

News in QLD

$60 million is a lot of money keeping these clunking out of date ageing coal burners in operation. And this is some of the problem - these coal fired stations ARE ageing and getting less reliable

So what is the QLD government going to do?

Start putting BIG batteries!

 

Yes, CA has some truly gigantic battery installations on line or near to be.

As Musk demonstrated in Southwest Australia, the ability to provide instant spot power with today's battery technology can be hugely financially beneficial for those living in the region. I think that Tesla battery installation could supply 2.2MWhrs.

Gatway Energy Storage just opened their 250 MWhr battery near San Diego - the largest in the world.

A joint Musk/ PG&E project In Monteray, CA will complete a similar battery this year. It will dwarf the Gateway Energy battery - 750MWhrs and it is designed to expand from there.

Some people forget that the cost of spot power has long been seriously high. This isn't just a problem for clean energy projects that depend on wind or sun. It also has to do with usage patterns, generation equipment going off line and the time required to start up generation and manage the grid economically.

 

I think some of the trouble is that technology is leaving the climate change deniers behind and that includes big oil.

 

There is absolutely no chance that any of that will come to pass.

 

An interesting event.
Did a short sharp Geomagnetic storm contribute to the Callide Coal plant explosion?
Ben Davidson speaks from Spaceweathernews.com mentions that there was a short sharp geomagnetic storm over the East Coast of Australia around the time the Queensland Callide Power plant exploded.

The CME that flew past Earth didn’t do much around the world, causing a small 1% deviation in magnetometers. But there was a burst of activity in the Southern Hemisphere that appears to have hit the east coast of Australia. Magnetometers there saw a 300 – 500% change between noon and 3pm on the same day as the Callide Coal Power Plant blew up. The explosion happened at 1.44pm and the 275 kV transmission lines tripped at 2:06pm.

We don’t know if this tipped something over the edge at Callide, but the timing is awfully coincidental. If Earth’s magnetic field is weakening it would seem urgent, to say the least, to understand the risks these spaceweather events pose to our critical infrastructure.

Perhaps an engineer who knows the design of hydrogen cooled supercritical coal reactors might be able to explain if or how a geomagnetic storm might contribute to an explosion, or even if that is possible? . . .

 

You should say something about the reasons behind your certainty.

 

As you wish.
The truth behind renewable energy
2020 › 10 › 18 › the-truth-behind-renewable-energy
The author is all for sensible use of renewable energy and for reducing everyday energy waste. Society ... requirement for back-up capacity for all variable renewable energy (VRE) and all consequences that come with it . . .

The true cost of solar and wind has to include:

1. Back-up costs (profile costs): cost originating from “temporal” deviation between generation and demand. Includes cost of batteries, decline in conventional power utilisation, increased ramping and cycling.
2. Interconnection costs: costs originating from “spatial” deviation between generation of variable renewable energy (VRE) and power demand, includes grid/ interconnections management costs, and balancing costs.
3. Material and energy costs: costs for energy and materials to build solar and wind capacity (the ERoEI is far too low for wind and solar).
4. Efficiency losses: costs associated with efficiency losses from underutilisation of conventional backup power.
5. Spatial costs: costs related to the space required for VRE (energy density is far too low), crop land, forests, effected bird and animal life, changing wind and local climate, noise pollution, etc.
6. Recycling costs: higher recycling costs of VRE and back-up capacity after its useful life.

Contrary to popular belief and press, costs for conventional energy as backup and the resulting efficiency losses of conventional energy explain, amongst others, why the total cost of variable renewable energy always increases with more installed capacity beyond a certain point. . . .

 

Climate Activists = Criminals
Grand Theft: Greenpeace Activists “Steal” Keys From 1000 New ICE Cars Awaiting Shipment In Port
By P Gosselin on 29. May 2021

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200,000 euros damage?

For some, like Greenpeace activists, VW is moving much too slowly stopping the sales of internal combustion engine (ICE) cars. And so they think they are justified trespassing and removing the keys of cars waiting to be loaded for export.



Greenpeace activists overcame a fence using ladders and removed the keys from 1000 new cars waiting to be loaded onto a vessel for export at a port in Emden, Germany. Image: Greenpeace.

According to the police in northern city of Leer, some 40 activists used ladders to make their way into the fenced-in premises of a port terminal in Emden and, according to the activists themselves, they withdrew more than 1,000 car keys from new cars awaiting to be loaded on a cargo vessel for export.

“Today we are taking hundreds of combustion engines out of circulation for the time being,” a spokesperson for Greenpeace told the NDR public broadcasting. . . .

 

Isn't underutilization a result one expects will happen to some competitors due to our capitalist system?

For example, coal is facing reductions related to the unattractiveness of the product.. That's not harming other competitors, such as gas or wind. I really don't believe it is likely that we're going to look back and rue the day we stopped polluting our nation by burning coal. That product is losing market share.

Likewise, transportation (which is 2/3 of the market for oil) is moving to electricity for sound reasons involving reduced expense and reduced pollution as well as the climate issues. There are real reasons for oil to lose significant market share as a result of our system of capitalism.

I'd also point out that in our central region from Texas to North Dakota wind power is growing rapidly. And, the reason IS related to spatial effects. Farmers now have a brand new revenue stream for which they have to do very little work - allowing access to turbines, etc. That is a BENEFIT.

The same is true in solar, as it is now cost effective to install private solar electricity production in homes and businesses across the nation whereever property isn't shaded. Again, that is capitalism - people can have electricity for less.

Your article is struggling to promote an agenda.

 

We disagree. I don't think the numbers are there for renewables (or for EV's) and current attempts to argue otherwise are just wishful thinking. We'll still be relying on fossil fuels 100 years from now unless there is a huge investment in nuclear power.

 

What's your point here?

I would rate this as a crime. I don't believe crime is going to change the economics of energy. It might change factors such as law on building codes - like how many apartments and condos have to be built with 220W outlets for car charging - an issue of changing law today.

The protest isn't really a factor in electricity production costs or electrical infrastructure development, which we already know we need.

 

Once again, I don't see you pointing to reasons for your belief.

Also, let's be a little bit fair about what is being suggested. NOBODY is saying that we won't be using fossil fuel in 100 years and nobody is suggeting that all our vehicles are going to be electric, either.

Today, growth in clean energy accounts for the full growth in US electricity demand. Gas is making up for the rapid decline in coal.

I'm somewhat surprised that Ford chose the F150 as their next fully electric vehicle. But, their confidence is inspiring!

 

From #7: "By 2035 to 2040 all vehicles in the U.S. and Western Europe will be electric."
As they say in Congress, would you like to revise and extend your remarks?

 

CA has banned the sale of gasoline cars beyond 2035. So, the 2035-2045 limit is a hard limit for CA at this point.

I'm not so sure that extends to all "vehicles", but their leadership is significant.

While CA is often out front on these issues, they do mean business. And, I know of no auto manufacturer who isn't moving toward an electric fleet.

The reasons aren't just climate change. Electric cars have a lot of advantages.

 

Here's current electrical generation:

This means sixty percent of electrical power is from "fossil" fuels, and another 20% comes from nukes. The "renewable" sources are heavily subsidized and the rest our heavily taxed. Right now electrical generation uses up about 40% of all power consumption & transportation uses over 25% so we're talking about a 70% increase in electrical use. All things considered equal.

Things are not equal. What this would most probably mean is a huge drop in transportation, a tanking of the economy, a population crash, soaring electrical prices, and rolling outages. I honestly can't see it.

 

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