Abortion is evil? WHY?

So far as I know, Christians are the only ones attempting to use public property to force their views on the general public. However, if any other religion attempted to do so, they would be treated equally.

 

Name one example of non-Christian religious symbolism ever being on public property.

 

I can't think of any examples.

 

Why don't you supply that proof? Public schools are gun free zones.

I couldn't care less about foreign countries. They have their own set of problems.

 

And American society is based in Judeo-Christian philosophy.

 

Yes boys should be taught to not put their penises in vaginas however, it is the girl who stands to be the most impacted so emphasis should be given to the female to respect themselves. The boys will follow.

 

The perception of the people is that young children should NOT be having sex. Or is has that now changed?

 

Conscience? Who's conscience?

 

"On June 29, the group American Atheists will unveil a 1,500-pound granite bench engraved with secular-themed quotations from Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and its founder, Madalyn Murray O’Hair, among others, in front of the Bradford County Courthouse in Starke, Fla."

https://www.religionnews.com/2013/0...il-first-monument-to-unbelief-on-public-land/

I'd put a nice crucifix on one side and a Star of David on the other. LOL

 

I don't understand what exactly you're implying.

 

You would vandalize it?

 

It's public property. Why not?

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Funny that is where your mind took you. LOL

 

Personally it should be about teaching both, there should not be any 'leaders', they should learn together.

 

The perception is still the same .. however perception does not relate to reality, why would anyone bury their head in the sand and assume that just because you tell someone not to do something they won't .. that is ludicrous.

Please define what you consider to be "young children".

 

and what is the problem with this considering it will sit right next to a monument showing the ten commandments;

Following a settlement with Bradford County, Florida, American Atheists will unveil a new monument in front of the Bradford County Courthouse: a 1,500-pound granite bench engraved with quotations from Thomas Jefferson, Madalyn Murray O’Hair, Benjamin Franklin, and others. The bench will sit adjacent to an existing monument featuring the Ten Commandments.

“When it comes to government and religion, there are only two ways to show equality: all or none,” said Ken Loukinen, Regional Operations Director. “I am glad that Bradford County has chosen to show equality and will be a great example for other cities in Florida and the United States.”

 

and perhaps someone will return the favor on the monument of the ten commandments right next to it .. perhaps a few druid symbols, or a crescent and star.

 

Individuals are free to follow their own consciences unless some action interferes with maintaining order in society. We have found in this country that people can live together even though they hold a variety of beliefs and follow a variety of religions, some widely different.

 

Abortion is disruptive to society because it unnaturally kills a developing human being that would have become part of that societal order. Yet SCOTUS has seen fit to leave that decision up to individual consciences.

Yes because they have been endowed by the CREATOR certain inalienable rights.

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Perhaps...so what?

 

Who said anything about burying one's head in the sand?

Most people, in America, do not condone minors having sex with each other and it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor.

 

I said they both should be taught but since biology impacts the girl the most, emphasis should lean in that direction. Boys and girls are different you know.

 

Yes, women have certain inalienable rights if they are citizens of the USA. We also have the Consitution to protect our rights, for example the SCOTUS Roe v Wade decision that was decided upon in favor of women's inalienable rights thanks to the 14th Amendment and our Right to Privacy and Right to Due Process, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

 

There is no disruption to society caused by abortion itself.

The Creator is not the Jeudo-Christian God in that document, it refers to any such thing that any person deems to be the creator no matter their religious affiliation or lack of.

There are three major problems with the claim that the DOI represents a foundation of morals and rights directly received from God.

1. The Declaration of Independence is not a legal document for the nation. What this means is that it has no authority over laws, lawmakers, or the people. It cannot be cited as precedent or as being binding in a courtroom. The purpose of the Declaration of Independence was to make a moral case for dissolving the legal ties between the colonies and Great Britain; once that goal was achieved, the official role of the Declaration was finished.

2. What little is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is only barely compatible with Christianity, the religion most people have in mind when making the above argument. The Declaration refers to “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.” These are all terms used in the sort of deism which was common among many of those responsible for the American Revolution as well as the philosophers upon whom they relied for support. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, was himself a deist who was opposed to many traditional Christian doctrines, in particular beliefs about the supernatural.
One common misuse of the Declaration of Independence is to argue that it states that rights come from God and, therefore, there are no legitimate interpretations of the rights in the Constitution that would be contrary to God. The first problem is that the Declaration of Independence refers to a “Creator” and not the Christian “God” meant by people making the argument. The second problem is that the “rights” mentioned in the Declaration of Independence are “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” — none of which are “rights” discussed in the Constitution.

3. The Declaration of Independence also makes it clear that governments created by humanity derive their powers from the consent of the governed, not from any gods. This is why the Constitution does not make any mention of any gods. There is no reason to think that there is anything illegitimate about an interpretation of any of the rights outlined in the Constitution merely because it runs contrary to what some people think that their conception of a god would want.

What this all means is that arguments against the separation of church and state which rely upon the language of the Declaration of Independence fail. First, the document in question has no legal authority with which one could make a legal case. Second, the sentiments expressed therein do not support the principle that government should be guided either by any specific religion (like Christianity) or by religion “in general” (as if such a thing even existed).

Oh I just found it a little hypocritical to suggest that a secular monument should attract such thoughts while it sits right next to a religious monument that you failed to mention in your comment . .but at least it shows that in a few places in the USA they actually understand and follow the meaning of the DOI and constitution.

 

True, though from some of the comments here the implication is an easy one to make.

Do you define minor as under 18 or under the age of consent, and even so what is the problem with sex education for 11 year olds.

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Really are they

The point is that both need to be taught to respect themselves and the opposite sex, trying to scare them into compliance will not and has not ever worked.

 

Define "trying to scare them with compliance".