Actually, the real influence peddler was Donald Trump

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  1. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    No, dude, it's me laughing at you.

    How can you not know what "lol" means in this day and age?
     
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    You call them misdemeanors. Most less biased people would call both felonies.
    Most people do not withhold taxes on millions of dollars.
    Most people aren't paying taxes on millions of dollars.
    You must not be listening to the news. He as been identified as the "big guy". He lied about knowing about Hunter's business. He met with Hunter's bosses. Hunter's bosses have been to the White House numerous times. About 20 LLCs have been established by the Biden family business. What is the Biden family business? The list goes on and on.
     
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    Nice edge. You should have quoted pertinent pertinent sections.
     
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    What you refuse to accept no one can make you see.
     
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    For which there has been AbsaByGodLutely NO substantive evidence.
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    That's pretty rich coming from someone who lives in the tRumpian universe.
     
  7. Grey Matter

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    You might want to revisit your understanding of the meaning of coincidence.

    These are two separate and unequal examples of the degree to which the Bidens and the Trumps are involved with making deals with foreign powers.

    Biden doesn't get a pass from me on supporting Hunter's feckless "business" ventures, implicitly it seems compared to DJT's explicit involvement.
     
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    They ran the clock out on the 2014 and 2015 tax charges.

    However, I would later be told by United States Attorney Weiss that the D.C. U.S. Attorney would not allow U.S. Attorney Weiss to charge those years in his district. This resulted in United States Attorney Weiss requesting special counsel authority from Main DOJ to charge in the District of Columbia. I don't know if he asked before or after the Attorney General's April 26th, 2022, statement, but Weiss said his request for that authority was denied and that he was told to follow DOJ's process.

    That process meant no charges would ever be brought in the District of Columbia, where the statute of limitations on the 2014 and '15 charges would eventually expire. The years in question included foreign income from Burisma and a scheme to evade his income taxes through a partnership with a convicted felon. There were also potential FARA issues relating to 2014 and 2015. The purposeful exclusion of the 2014 and 2015 years sanitized the most substantive criminal conduct and concealed material facts.

    Hunter Biden still has not reported approximately $400,000 in income from Burisma and has not paid the tax due and owing of around $125,000 even after being told multiple times by his partner, Eric Schwerin, that he had to amend his 2014 return to 26 report that income. To make matters worse, defense counsel was willing to sign statute of limitations extensions for 2014 and 2015 and had done so several times. Because United States Attorney Weiss had no ability to charge 2014 and 2015, DOJ allowed the statute of limitations to expire. There is no mechanism available to collect the tax owed by Hunter Biden for 2014 other than in a voluntary fashion.


    Q And turning to the second page of the document, this excerpt includes the "Conclusions and Recommendations" section. Can you describe the conclusions and recommendations made in this report?

    A Yes, I can. The report includes itemized elements of each violation for each year up above it that I couldn't provide because of grand jury (6)(e) material. This recommended felony tax evasion charges, that's 7201, is tax evasion, and 7206(1) is a false tax return, also a felony, for the tax years 2014, 2018, and 2019. And for Title 26 7203, which is a failure to file or pay, that is a misdemeanor charge for '15, '16, '17, '18, and '19.

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    Yea... I've done my homework more than you have...

    In Kiev late last month, District Court Judge S. V. Vovk ordered the country’s law enforcement services to formally list the fired prosecutor, Victor Shokin, as the victim of an alleged crime by the former U.S. vice president, according to an official English translation of the ruling obtained by Just the News.
    The court had previously ordered the Prosecutor General’s Office and the State Bureau of Investigations in February to investigate Shokin’s claim that he was fired in spring 2016 under pressure from Biden because he was investigating Burisma Holdings, the natural gas company where Biden’s son Hunter worked.
    The court ruled then that there was adequate evidence to investigate Shokin’s claim that Biden’s pressure on then-President Petro Poroshenko, including a threat to withhold $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, amounted to unlawful interference in Shokin’s work as Ukraine’s chief prosecutor.

    https://justthenews.com/sites/defau...ourtRulingEngTranslation4-21-20ShokinCase.pdf

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    Nor was Trump. Trump simply held up a document he claimed was Milly's plan to invade Iraq. No one read it and no one saw inside the cover. Please note the idea that everyone in the world with two braincells to rub together doesn't already know that such a plan exists and further that minor changes are made with some frequency is ludicrous
     
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    Nor was Trump.
     
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    No sir I live in this universe Trump is merely an inhabitant of it as are you and I.
     
  13. Patricio Da Silva

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    There is no evidence against Joe Biden and very little against Hunter Biden, or anyone else in the Biden family. .

    None.

    Inconvenient fact: US Attorney David Weiss, appointed as Special Counsel by Trump DOJ to investigate Hunter Biden, after 5 years. the only thing he could pin on Hunter Biden was 2 piddly misdemeanor charges, filing taxes and paying taxes late. BFD and NOTHING on Joe Biden. Nothing Comer has produced implicates Joe Biden and Comer admits it. . So much for your 'mountain of evidence'.
     
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    US Attorney David Weiss, appointed as Special Counsel by Trump DOJ to investigate Hunter Biden, after 5 years. the only thing he could pin on Hunter Biden was 2 piddly misdemeanor charges, filing taxes and paying taxes late. BFD and NOTHING on Joe Biden. Nothing Comer has produced implicates Joe Biden and Comer admits it. . So much for your 'mountain of evidence'.
     
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    That makes no sense. A red herring is always is a term in reference to something else.

    You say Trump is a red herring. He isn't to this OP because he is the subject of the OP.

    Okay, what are you claiming Trump is a red herring to, by the left? What?
     
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  16. Patricio Da Silva

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    I'm calling them what they are on the indictment, which is according to law. Bias has NOTHING to do with it.
    red herring.
    red herring.
    Okay, Joe is the big guy? So?
    He can't avoid having a cursory knowledge, but that isn't what he means.
    He means that he doesn't know the details of his son's businesses, he isn't a participant.
    Your blowing it way out of proportion, and the reason you do that is because you hate Joe Biden.
    Trump met with Epstein, so did Clinton, so did Bill Gates. Are they pervs?
    No. Similarly, you are committing a logical fallacy.
    Hunter was a recovered drug addict. Maybe Joe was just making sure that Hunter wasn't associating with criminals, like a Father checking out his daughter's boyfriend.

    Proves nothing, in other words.
    Most major business have LLCs. 20 is nothing. Trump has 500 of them. Proves nothing and LLC is a legal entity, and there are several
    legitimate reason for establishing them. You provide NO corroborating evidence to back up your suspicions, and that's all they are.
    Why doesn't Comer have Hunter testify and maybe we can find out from him? Hmmm?
    The list of holes in your argument goes on and on and on.

    For all the hoopla surrounding Biden's laptop, there is this inescapable, inconvenient, and very glaring fact:

    When a new administration comes to the White House, one of the many things on the bucket list of presidential things to do is to fire all the US Attorneys from the previous administration, and bring in the new president's own team.

    Joe Biden did this except for one, the US Attorney Delaware, David Weiss (two, actually, he left Durham in place who hasn't come up with squat, either).

    Why was he left and not replaced?

    Because the previous AG, Bill Barr, assigned this Trump appointed Us Attorney to investigate Hunter Biden. When Joe Biden took over the presidency, so as not to appear trying to tip the scales one way or the other, he left Weiss in place to finish the job, the investigation of his own son.

    Does that sound like the work of a corrupt president? Sounds like just the opposite, to me, and should sound like the opposite of corruption to any rational human being who doesn't kneejerk at the first bit of innuendo and scant evidence that comes down the pike.

    The fact of the matter is that Hunter Biden has been under investigation by the DOJ, to wit, a Trump appointed US Attorney David Weiss for the last FIVE years, and Weiss has, thus far, not given the slightest hint that the President has done anything wrong, and all he could find on Hunter are 2 misdemeanors, if any of your so-called 'evidence' was worth more than spit Hunter would have been indicted, and Joe would have been referred to the DOJ for indictment and investigation.

    That proves your 'evidence' is baloney. It's just innuendo.

    We get it, you hate the Bidens. But, the fact remains that you don't have one good gawddamn reason other than your own bias to dislike them.
     
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    There were at least two witnesses in that room. Rest assured, Jack Smith has their testimony, under oath, as to what they saw. We don't know what they testified to, as of yet, and don't be too certain about what they know.

    But, guess what? it doesn't matter. Trump isn't being charged for the dissemination of the documents (or lack thereof) in the audio tape because that occurred in Bedminster. He's being indicted for the documents at Mar A Lago and the obstruction. The tape is included in the evidence because it shows mens rea. The documents in the tape are not in evidence.
     
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    You mean the same attorney and whistleblowers claiming their investigations were impeded? The same one? I don't see how a special counsel can't be invoked in this case. No one's above the law, right? So a Special Counsel to clear the air is preferable.
     
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    That is precisely what I did.
     
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    That came from the "IRS Whistleblower", but his testimony was rebuked by Garland
    Biden investigation: Garland denies IRS whistleblower claims on shutting down David Weiss | Washington Examiner

    And Weiss refutes it, as well
    https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-at...unter-biden-tax-probe-was-stymied-2023-06-23/
    Since the first part of your post is faulty, I'm not going to bother with the rest.

    It's like this, this all about taxes. millions of folks are late on taxes but pay them, file late. I filed for 5 years of not filing, no charges were levied on me. I didn't need an FBI chasing me, the IRS letters were scary enough. So, finally, I called the IRS and we worked it out.

    But, for the last few years, all I"ve been hearing on the right are 'Corruption" "Crimes" "Bribes".

    An this tax stuff just isn't in that ballpark.
     
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    And everyone should do their homework before they accuse, right?

    Garland rebukes the IRS whistleblowers, and.......
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...nies-weiss-asked-special-counsel-powers-biden

    So does Weiss
    https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-at...unter-biden-tax-probe-was-stymied-2023-06-23/
     
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    Why did Hunter B's dic pics upset so many Trump supporters?
     
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    Your Weiss link isn't Weiss speaking, but rather Garland speaking on his behalf(and Garland asserting Weiss had more powers than the special counsel). This isn't to throw shade, it's just to clarify. For now, this saga appears closed and hopefully it stays that way.
     
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    Trump has businesses. The Biden crime family has none.
     
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    It is not about what they are. It is about what they should be.
    Red Herring.
     

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